Author Topic: Geekhack Pack Jan '13: "so I had some keys made.." (Read 17508 times)

rowdy · « **Reply #50 on:** Sat, 12 January 2013, 01:02:43 »

Hey - can these be made in reverse? Using the transparent material as the first shot and the blue (or other colour) as the second shot, to make backlighting friendly keycaps?

Sifo · « **Reply #51 on:** Sat, 12 January 2013, 01:05:00 »

It looks like it can be done but I don't know how consistent the transparent shot will be for it to allow the light to pass through on all the keys

mkawa · « **Reply #52 on:** Sat, 12 January 2013, 07:18:40 »

Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 12 January 2013, 01:02:43

Hey - can these be made in reverse? Using the transparent material as the first shot and the blue (or other colour) as the second shot, to make backlighting friendly keycaps?

technically, it can be done, but that the result won't be quite what you want -- the issue is that the second shot actually completely surrounds the first shot _except_ where the legend pokes through to the top of the key, and a few stochastic points on the underside of the key where the 2nd shot doesn't quite flow through the first shot lattice. flip any standard ABS 2-shot from SP over and you'll see what i mean. however, keep in mind that the second shot in a 2-shot abs/polycarb key is not necessarily injection molded at the same pressure and as a 2-shot ABS.

Turbo Slaab · « **Reply #53 on:** Sat, 12 January 2013, 07:21:11 »

Wouldn't the light that shines through not be consistent as well, because of the weave pattern of the first shot?

mkawa · « **Reply #54 on:** Sat, 12 January 2013, 08:12:07 »

it depends on the legend design, random variation in exactly how the key was formed, the brightness of the backlight, the opacity of the 2nd shot material, etc.

luckily, i like experimenting

linkz · « **Reply #55 on:** Sat, 12 January 2013, 08:23:27 »

Quote from: Turbo Slaab on Sat, 12 January 2013, 07:21:11

Wouldn't the light that shines through not be consistent as well, because of the weave pattern of the first shot?

I would guess so, but that would make it even cooler, no?

Turbo Slaab · « **Reply #56 on:** Sat, 12 January 2013, 08:23:56 »

Very lucky indeed! Can't wait to see what else you come up with!

Turbo Slaab · « **Reply #57 on:** Sat, 12 January 2013, 08:25:43 »

Quote from: linkz on Sat, 12 January 2013, 08:23:27

Quote from: Turbo Slaab on Sat, 12 January 2013, 07:21:11
Wouldn't the light that shines through not be consistent as well, because of the weave pattern of the first shot?

I would guess so, but that would make it even cooler, no?

Ehhh. The way I envision it, it would look cheap/half-assed. I could be wrong though.

whiskerBox · « **Reply #58 on:** Sat, 12 January 2013, 08:32:05 »

So when are we starting the GB on a full set of these?

Kabuks · « **Reply #59 on:** Sat, 12 January 2013, 11:52:28 »

Ordered a set and some other stuff last night, my 2nd order from Techkeys in the last 5 days.

mkawa · « **Reply #60 on:** Sat, 12 January 2013, 12:26:49 »

i should also mention that i picked up one of boiler's awesome new keypullers when i grabbed my samples of the keys. o.m.g best. keypuller. ever. i've used the leopold puller, bent paperclips, all kinds of crap, and this one is easily the best i've used. it has better tension and wire shape than the filco/leopold, and length is perfect -- it gives you a bit more leverage on stubborn caps like tight MX keys or two-piece BS.

ARE YOU A WIZARD, BOILER?!?!

baldgye · « **Reply #61 on:** Sat, 12 January 2013, 12:33:35 »

Quote from: mkawa on Sat, 12 January 2013, 12:26:49

i should also mention that i picked up one of boiler's awesome new keypullers when i grabbed my samples of the keys. o.m.g best. keypuller. ever. i've used the leopold puller, bent paperclips, all kinds of crap, and this one is easily the best i've used. it has better tension and wire shape than the filco/leopold, and length is perfect -- it gives you a bit more leverage on stubborn caps like tight MX keys or two-piece BS.

ARE YOU A WIZARD, BOILER?!?!

where can you get this magical device from?? (url?)

oh and I ordered a set, and also the layout board from the pervious GH group

mkawa · « **Reply #62 on:** Sat, 12 January 2013, 12:35:04 »

http://www.techkeys.us/accessories.php

baldgye · « **Reply #63 on:** Sat, 12 January 2013, 13:14:33 »

ohh that thing, but it just looks like a standard wasd/filco puller? :/

mkawa · « **Reply #64 on:** Sat, 12 January 2013, 13:37:57 »

yes, frankly they're all wires on sticks, but i'll be damned if this one doesn't work a bit better than my leopold and all the makeshift crap i've made. it's possible that the filco and wasd pullers are just as good; i haven't used those.

rowdy · « **Reply #65 on:** Sat, 12 January 2013, 18:21:08 »

Quote from: mkawa on Sat, 12 January 2013, 07:18:40

Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 12 January 2013, 01:02:43
Hey - can these be made in reverse? Using the transparent material as the first shot and the blue (or other colour) as the second shot, to make backlighting friendly keycaps?
technically, it can be done, but that the result won't be quite what you want -- the issue is that the second shot actually completely surrounds the first shot _except_ where the legend pokes through to the top of the key, and a few stochastic points on the underside of the key where the 2nd shot doesn't quite flow through the first shot lattice. flip any standard ABS 2-shot from SP over and you'll see what i mean. however, keep in mind that the second shot in a 2-shot abs/polycarb key is not necessarily injection molded at the same pressure and as a 2-shot ABS.

Thanks for the detailed response.

But ... most backlighting is (or has a setting that is) fairly bright, so anywhere underneath that the first shot flows through to the legend on top should allow sufficient light to leak out to illuminate the keycap. And given that it is transparent, as opposed to translucent, should let more light through?

Another but ... relying on that mechanism to produce uniform lighting across the keyboard would be silly, as that is not the way backlighting is intended to work.

Ok, bad idea, although you might get a vaguely useable set out of it.

jabar · « **Reply #66 on:** Sun, 13 January 2013, 11:07:39 »

Since PBT/PBT doubleshots are difficult to achieve, what about PBT/polycarbonate legends? That would, in my opinion, be acceptable as a "doubleshot" PBT keycap while allowing for backlighting to work (without doing what TG3 does).

mkawa · « **Reply #67 on:** Sun, 13 January 2013, 17:43:45 »

.. and here we go

razorsharpgears · « **Reply #68 on:** Sun, 13 January 2013, 17:44:38 »

Beautiful

CPTBadAss · « **Reply #69 on:** Sun, 13 January 2013, 17:56:01 »

Oooo, those are some sexy pictures mkawa

whiskerBox · « **Reply #70 on:** Sun, 13 January 2013, 18:02:27 »

Ok for real lets do a whole set, someone start the GB

AKIMbO · « **Reply #71 on:** Sun, 13 January 2013, 18:04:43 »

Quote from: whiskerBox on Sun, 13 January 2013, 18:02:27

Ok for real lets do a whole set, someone start the GB

Yes please.

Halverson · « **Reply #72 on:** Sun, 13 January 2013, 19:45:10 »

Quote from: AKIMbO on Sun, 13 January 2013, 18:04:43

Quote from: whiskerBox on Sun, 13 January 2013, 18:02:27
Ok for real lets do a whole set, someone start the GB

Yes please.

X2! And lets make them all different colours! Rainbow unicorn vomit led board catastrophe!
But in all seriousness, more yes, at least a function or number row

rowdy · « **Reply #73 on:** Sun, 13 January 2013, 23:52:31 »

Great look - like frosted glass

linkz · « **Reply #74 on:** Mon, 14 January 2013, 00:27:24 »

I would really like it if it is done in other colors beside this blue!

Preach · « **Reply #75 on:** Mon, 14 January 2013, 02:01:17 »

Quote from: linkz on Mon, 14 January 2013, 00:27:24

I would really like it if it is done in other colors beside this blue!

even if you don't like it, the purchase directly helps GH as the money goes to help this community.

I myself love these caps and wanted to help so I ordered on friday.

CPTBadAss · « **Reply #76 on:** Mon, 14 January 2013, 16:27:37 »

Quote from: mkawa on Sat, 12 January 2013, 12:26:49

i should also mention that i picked up one of boiler's awesome new keypullers when i grabbed my samples of the keys. o.m.g best. keypuller. ever. i've used the leopold puller, bent paperclips, all kinds of crap, and this one is easily the best i've used. it has better tension and wire shape than the filco/leopold, and length is perfect -- it gives you a bit more leverage on stubborn caps like tight MX keys or two-piece BS.

ARE YOU A WIZARD, BOILER?!?!

mkawa, you are correct. i3oiler is a wizard. The wires are spaced so that the fit around the caps easily and the tension is nice. The Filco one isn't bad but the shape is a bit off and there's no spacing so you have to constantly adjust.

Also, the pack is SO nice. I just got mine today

Sifo · « **Reply #77 on:** Tue, 15 January 2013, 02:43:59 »

I really like my WASD puller. I should have gotten one of these to check it out.

tauburn · « **Reply #78 on:** Fri, 18 January 2013, 19:06:04 »

i wish they made full sets of them.

Glod · « **Reply #79 on:** Sun, 20 January 2013, 03:57:49 »

i have to say that i think they are really cool on my board

i wish there was a entire set of these, even better with caps to fit on a ergodox, clear ergodox case, clear DS caps, be swweeeet. i can dream.....

PointyFox · « **Reply #80 on:** Wed, 23 January 2013, 22:15:46 »

The only way these will look good is if there is a full set of them. Or if you happened to have a blue keyboard with white keycaps.

MattBuzzy · « **Reply #81 on:** Fri, 25 January 2013, 02:24:03 »

I would also like to see a full pack of these.

dieseldog49 · « **Reply #82 on:** Fri, 25 January 2013, 17:47:53 »

Ordering a Set, but I would really love to see these in other colors such as Red, Green, Purple, Orange ect... Awesome Ideas for sure though!

rowdy · « **Reply #83 on:** Sat, 26 January 2013, 01:30:20 »

Quote from: dieseldog49 on Fri, 25 January 2013, 17:47:53

Ordering a Set, but I would really love to see these in other colors such as Red, Green, Purple, Orange ect... Awesome Ideas for sure though!

Maybe next month ... ?

keymaster · « **Reply #84 on:** Sat, 26 January 2013, 11:46:23 »

Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 26 January 2013, 01:30:20

Quote from: dieseldog49 on Fri, 25 January 2013, 17:47:53
Ordering a Set, but I would really love to see these in other colors such as Red, Green, Purple, Orange ect... Awesome Ideas for sure though!

Maybe next month ... ?

Orange "March" Pack '13

mkawa · « **Reply #85 on:** Sat, 26 January 2013, 13:57:57 »

i'm going to do my best to keep one key or pack a month rolling in. however, please keep in mind that i am fronting the funds for this myself (they are my experiments, after all

, so we'll have to see how things go.

dieseldog49 · « **Reply #86 on:** Sat, 26 January 2013, 14:06:10 »

Cant wait

, I bough this pack just to check out the technique and support the idea.

jabar · « **Reply #87 on:** Sat, 26 January 2013, 18:36:58 »

Wait what is this doubleshot PBT (really?!) green smiley key now available!?

keymaster · « **Reply #88 on:** Sat, 26 January 2013, 18:44:52 »

Quote from: jabar on Sat, 26 January 2013, 18:36:58

Wait what is this doubleshot PBT (really?!) green smiley key now available!?

http://www.techkeys.us/custom-keys.php

It's the first one

jabar · « **Reply #89 on:** Sat, 26 January 2013, 19:29:54 »

I would have seen that but the techkeys newsletter hit my spam bin... now that's fixed.

rowdy · « **Reply #90 on:** Wed, 30 January 2013, 19:42:43 »

I have a little extra bit of plastic under my Enter:

It doesn't impact on switch performance, so I left it there for now.

mkawa · « **Reply #91 on:** Wed, 30 January 2013, 19:48:23 »

this is a note to boilermaker to throw another set (free ofc) in with your next techkeys order

rowdy · « **Reply #92 on:** Wed, 30 January 2013, 20:47:35 »

No need for that - it doesn't impact key switch performance at all, and looks like it is just a bit of extra second shot plastic that squeezed thru the first shot.

You can't tell at all from the top.

dieseldog49 · « **Reply #93 on:** Wed, 30 January 2013, 20:58:04 »

Just got mine in, here is a pic

I quite like the technique and I cannot wait for other colors, I would gladly buy every color set that I mentioned earlier. And if you could come up with a Spacebar that said GeeK HacK on it I would kill for that, now I just need a backlit keyboard!

ApocalypseMaow · « **Reply #94 on:** Sat, 02 February 2013, 07:58:54 »

Just ordered mine! Whats February gonna bring?

i3oilermaker · « **Reply #95 on:** Sat, 02 February 2013, 10:48:16 »

Feb keys are going to be awesome ... Just sayn'

ApocalypseMaow · « **Reply #96 on:** Sat, 02 February 2013, 11:26:37 »

Quote from: i3oilermaker on Sat, 02 February 2013, 10:48:16

Feb keys are going to be awesome ... Just sayn'

What's the eta on those?

i3oilermaker · « **Reply #97 on:** Sat, 02 February 2013, 11:38:20 »

I said too much

mashby · « **Reply #98 on:** Sat, 02 February 2013, 11:38:27 »

Quote from: i3oilermaker on Sat, 02 February 2013, 10:48:16

Feb keys are going to be awesome ... Just sayn'

I'm starting to feel a bit like a junkie and you're my pusher.

Can't wait to see the new keys.

mkawa · « **Reply #99 on:** Sat, 02 February 2013, 11:41:47 »

Quote from: i3oilermaker on Sat, 02 February 2013, 11:38:20

I said too much

*points to gulag*

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