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« Reply #100 on: Mon, 03 May 2010, 06:37:33 »
Quote from: itlnstln;176676
Oh yeah, I forgot about that.  My bad.  I need to become more familiar with their products.  I forgot, too, that this new keyboard is supposed to be numpad-less.


The SpaceSaver is actually that board with the TrackPoint removed.

(Hence the ugly plastic piece in where the buttons are on an EnduraPro - the case molding has the hole in it, always.)

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« Reply #101 on: Sun, 27 June 2010, 12:28:46 »
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I'm doing beta testing right now.  Looking good.
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Beta testing what? What's that?
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« Reply #102 on: Sun, 27 June 2010, 12:32:34 »
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Beta testing what? What's that?


Looks like a Sharpie.

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« Reply #103 on: Sun, 27 June 2010, 12:35:46 »
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I'm doing beta testing right now.  Looking good.
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That's photo-shopped.
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« Reply #104 on: Sun, 27 June 2010, 12:44:12 »
What's with the circuit board at the top being exposed?
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« Reply #105 on: Sun, 27 June 2010, 12:47:36 »
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That's photo-shopped.


But what are the rollover properties like?


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« Reply #106 on: Sun, 27 June 2010, 13:19:07 »
Still looks a little rough in the top right-hand corner of the keyboard.
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« Reply #107 on: Sun, 27 June 2010, 13:20:23 »
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Let's try CS5's new content aware fill feature.

This better?


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« Reply #108 on: Sun, 27 June 2010, 13:29:49 »
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How about these sightings.  I BELIEVE!!!!

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« Reply #109 on: Sun, 27 June 2010, 13:35:49 »
Well, that one isn't Photoshopped. However, even though it has a PS/2 connector, while I may want it to be true that it would work with a PC-compatible computer, I am not inclined to jump to belief.

I have, however, in the other thread, illustrated how such a keyboard does have enough keys to be practical - if one is willing to give up the tab key, the |\ key between Backspace and Enter (although I actually end up giving up the ~` key instead, and move those characters there) and the Caps Lock key, then one can get a keyboard that is actually pretty usable.

Yes, even Esc and Tab and Caps Lock are now Fn-shifted characters. And some have taken issue with my choice of where to put the cursor keys.

But I have tried to illustrate that it's possible, and my strong preference is, in any case, for the keyboard to be programmable. I don't expect a commercial product to offer the 122-key emulation mode I illustrated, since it would be of very limited use.

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« Reply #110 on: Sun, 27 June 2010, 13:39:48 »
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Well, that one isn't Photoshopped.

Well, it's photoshopped, or GIMPed rather, a little.  But only to enhance clarity and perspective from the original.

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« Reply #111 on: Sun, 27 June 2010, 14:54:35 »
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Well, it's photoshopped, or GIMPed rather, a little.  But only to enhance clarity and perspective from the original.
Actually, I was referring to the one in Ripster's post, though: yours sneaked in as I was replying to it.

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« Reply #112 on: Sun, 27 June 2010, 16:19:34 »
Those are set screws?  I thought they were LED's
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« Reply #113 on: Sun, 27 June 2010, 16:51:44 »
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Those are set screws?  I thought they were LED's

I can't tell for sure what they are, not enough resolution in the picture and I'm not a CSI/Miami Vice tech, :smile:.  But.  They look, to me, to be the right color for screws.  And as the keys that go in those positions appear to be solid, no "window" for the caps lock key.  So based on what I can see, screws make more sense but can't be sure.

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« Reply #114 on: Sun, 27 June 2010, 17:30:21 »
Having purchased a working M2, I've been using it as my principal keyboard, thinking that it would be a shame to just put it on a shelf until its capacitors dried out too.

However, I've found that occasionally I make typing errors on it that I would not have made on my regular Model M.

One other thing about it, which is a plus if you want to change keys around, but a minus from the viewpoint of how fancy a keyboard it is, is that it is a stepped keyboard rather than a sculptured keyboard. Of course, this is only from the shape of the keycaps, but it still affects typing.

Quote from: Eclairz;62791
I wonder if they are not actively designing new up and coming keyboards, what are they doing with the money?
Like most companies, their first priority is paying whoever answers the phone and takes orders. If they are getting enough orders that their existing stock of keyboards is getting depleted, they also have to pay whoever is working in their factory to make more. And if they're really making lots of money, then research and development on new products, so as to make even more money naturally follows.

I don't know what Unicomp's precise situation is, but their principal sales are to offices, not to old-style keyboard enthusiasts, most of which have been able to find used model M keyboards cheaply, I suspect. Even though this is no longer as possible as it used to be.

Most offices, though, take one listen to the Model M, and recoil in horror from its noise level.

Basically, then, it seems to me that Unicomp's core business consists of a customer base of IBM shops that had a lot of IBM terminals and PS/2 computers, and whenever they replace a keyboard, they want to replace it with the closest thing to what they had before.

Like the Japanese firms that buy Topre keyboards, they may have found that increased typing speed and accuracy are worth it. So high data-entry requirements are also a likely characteristic of the companies that are Unicomp customers.

Sadly, I suspect that many of Unicomp's potential customers have not even heard of them, but perhaps it does advertise in the areas of the trade press that are required to reach them.
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« Reply #115 on: Sun, 11 July 2010, 06:09:59 »
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Well, a M2 design would be a better start than the M4 that's for sure.  But Chuck never said M2.  Given their last "new product launch" it's just as likely to be a scissor switch laptop board.

Plus, they have to stick that controller somewhere or miniaturize it or make the case more Spacesaver like.
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not my pic but this is a wild speculation thread anyway.


Assuming the principle that Unicomp sticks to old IBM/Lexmark designs, I think the keyboard, if it ever comes into existence, will just be the M4-1 chassis expanded. The M2 doesn't look like the sort of thing that could be easily converted to a Tenkeyless. The M4-1 on the other hand is just a membrane keyboard, and there's no reason why they couldn't just expand the case upwards and fit buckling springs into it. It also has the advantage that the M4-1/M4 has been in production with Unicomp, so it would be easy enough to adapt their current production lines to manufacture it.

Also, if you compare an M2 case with an M4-1 case, they're surprisingly similar...

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« Reply #116 on: Sun, 25 July 2010, 10:31:13 »
After dismantling both an M2, and an M4-1, it would seem to me that if you got the top half of an M2, shrunk it down so that it was the same size/layout as the top half of an M4-1, you'd have a buckling spring M4-1 with no other changes required, except for maybe making the trackpoint longer. The M4-1 is basically just a shrunk M2 with a rubber sleeve mechanism.
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« Reply #117 on: Sun, 25 July 2010, 11:17:17 »
I've got a feeling that Unicomp isn't gonna make theat keyboard.
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« Reply #118 on: Sun, 25 July 2010, 11:20:31 »




If I was running Unicomp, I'd take the M2-style upper and stretch it to accomodate standard Model M sized keys.
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« Reply #119 on: Sun, 25 July 2010, 11:22:01 »
I like your orange carpet.
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« Reply #120 on: Sun, 25 July 2010, 12:31:50 »
The carpet is dark red.

There's another problem with CRTs - old ones have terrible colour drain.

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« Reply #121 on: Sun, 25 July 2010, 12:34:48 »
Funny. I was using my LCD when replying to that post.

But that carpet is 70's red-orange. Admit it!
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« Reply #122 on: Sun, 25 July 2010, 13:28:44 »
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The carpet is dark red.

There's another problem with CRTs - old ones have terrible colour drain.


The only time I noticed bad reds were on tube TVs. Never on a computer CRT.

I did have some ancient CRT probably for an AT-compatible computer that had blue issues, so it would tint itself yellow now and then; when that would happen you'd smack it, and it would run normally for a bit. The max resolution it could handle was 800x600.

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« Reply #123 on: Sun, 25 July 2010, 13:32:00 »
Have I just transferred some 'need' from the miniguru to some mythical unicomp keyboard?
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« Reply #124 on: Sun, 01 August 2010, 18:57:24 »
To anyone waiting on pins and needles, please be sure to check the date of the OP.  The mini-guru idea, preproduction, and cancellation came and went in about a third of the life of this thread.
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« Reply #125 on: Mon, 16 August 2010, 06:56:35 »
Latest from Unicomp (when asked about the upcoming "Mighty Mouse (M4-1) replacement):

Quote from: Chuck Cropper
Yes, but we are still a few months away from having it.

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« Reply #126 on: Mon, 16 August 2010, 07:03:54 »
Could be the ultimate Geekhack Christmas present? =P

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« Reply #127 on: Mon, 16 August 2010, 10:16:18 »
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Pic from LAST Christmas.


Lol...I was nearly expecting you to post a photo of Unicomp's Marketing/PR Department (or their Engineering department for that matter) ala your post of Cherry's Support dept :D

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« Reply #128 on: Mon, 16 August 2010, 13:24:11 »
Weird, when I emailed them about it they said that their plans fell through on that.

I'm 2 hours away, I'm going to make a small pilgrimage and ravage their research department.

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« Reply #129 on: Mon, 16 August 2010, 13:47:25 »
I noticed this popped up lately -

Unicomp.com

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« Reply #130 on: Mon, 16 August 2010, 15:14:21 »
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I noticed this popped up lately -

Unicomp.com


It's been there forever. Are you referring to the existence of the domain or its state of neglect?

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« Reply #131 on: Mon, 16 August 2010, 15:57:22 »
Domain. And Unicomp.com definitely hasn't been registered to them forever. I remember checking some time last year...

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« Reply #132 on: Mon, 16 August 2010, 17:02:34 »
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Domain. And Unicomp.com definitely hasn't been registered to them forever. I remember checking some time last year...


He's right. although the domain was registered:


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  Record created on 14-Jul-1994.



It is clear that ownership was transferred recently. Check archive.org, you can see the "old" UniComp was hosted there right up to ~2007.

I don't know if anyone pays for domaintools.com pro account, but they have been keeping whois records since 2000 and have 40+ entries in their DB for unicomp.com.

Oddly enough, the admin contact info is as would be expected (contact info in KY with a pckeyboard.com email), this tidbit in the whois entry is odd:


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Visit AboutUs.org for more information about UNICOMP.COM
http://www.aboutus.org/UNICOMP.COM">AboutUs: UNICOMP.COM


If you go to that page, it seems decidedly NOT the uniComp who currently owns the domain.

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« Reply #133 on: Mon, 16 August 2010, 19:35:02 »
You jerks. You got me all excited about some breaking news.

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« Reply #134 on: Mon, 16 August 2010, 19:41:50 »
That was meant in jest, sorry :)

I'm not actually upset or anything. I mean, mildly upset that Unicomp hasn't updated their website since 1987, but I have nothing against anybody here.

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« Reply #135 on: Mon, 16 August 2010, 20:04:37 »
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I think he knows you were kidding.  But keep up the smileys, AMAZES me what people get away with when they use a smiley.  :)


What's that about getting away with similes:

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oh ... SMILEYS .

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« Reply #136 on: Mon, 16 August 2010, 20:13:41 »
Quote from: ripster;213278
Not nice to call the site admin a jerk.


I doubt he meant to.
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« Reply #137 on: Mon, 16 August 2010, 20:43:35 »
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Domain. And Unicomp.com definitely hasn't been registered to them forever. I remember checking some time last year...


My memory failed me. I remember seeing that page with the exact same info a "long" time ago, but apparently no earlier than sometime last year...
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« Reply #138 on: Mon, 16 August 2010, 21:40:49 »
Even more interesting was this reply (which was accidentally sent to me, I believe):

Quote from: unamed Unicomp employee
I have not replied to Larry, but here is what I would send if you agree:

Larry, Thanks for the note. I am not aware of any plans for a Mighty Mouse replacement in the near future. We do plan to offer a small footprint model sometime in the future, but I cannot tell you when that might be.

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« Reply #139 on: Mon, 16 August 2010, 21:49:29 »
I wonder what their "Small footprint" model might be?
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« Reply #140 on: Mon, 16 August 2010, 22:08:51 »
hhkb layout buckling spring
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« Reply #141 on: Tue, 17 August 2010, 01:56:03 »
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hhkb layout buckling spring


But Ripster would want an arrow key?

So HHKB JP layout without the funky Japanese keys and an arrow key with buckling springs and LEDs on keycaps!

(Considering that they have at least 10 years minimum to finally market the 'smaller model' buckling spring keyboard)

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« Reply #142 on: Tue, 17 August 2010, 03:16:24 »
10 years?  Don't put artificial deadlines on Unicomp like that.  Artists must be allowed to take their time and let the art flourish at its own pace.
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« Reply #143 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 23:35:45 »
This thread needs to be locked.  I get excited and disappointed in one click flat.
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« Reply #144 on: Sat, 27 November 2010, 18:14:18 »
Darn, low-profile scissor spring, I mean, buckling spring, would be so cool.

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« Reply #145 on: Wed, 06 April 2011, 14:15:41 »
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« Reply #146 on: Wed, 06 April 2011, 18:02:29 »
But the new Unicomp model has been released. We were just so... ehmm, what is our reaction again? The pills my doctor gave me after I saw the first pictures make me forget things.

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« Reply #147 on: Wed, 06 April 2011, 19:05:40 »
impatient i believe.
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« Reply #148 on: Thu, 07 April 2011, 18:53:02 »
Not so sure i dig the osx keys. Where's the Mission Control key?  I think this keyboard will outlive expose and dashboard.  Blank keys are the best for future proofing in my opinion.

Make a real spacesaver unicomp, leave the custom keys to gh.

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« Reply #149 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 08:06:09 »
So, is anyone brave/stupid enough to ask them if this is the keyboard that was promised all those years ago?