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Offline Winther

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Hello from Denmark!
« on: Tue, 05 February 2013, 13:41:49 »
Hello guys!

I am very new to all this keyboard stuff, well the mechanical kinda that is. Have been a gamer for some years now but didnt really know about mechanical keyboards until like a year ago, and I really want one now.. :P
Right now I have my Roccat Isku, and the enter key is screwed up so I want a mechanical keyboard, I have pretty much decided on the Ducky Shine 2 TKL.. Just not sure yet what switch I want, was hoping I might get a little help here. And before you say it, I know its mostly prefference, but since I have only tried Reds and Browns for a short time, I dont know which one to chose.

I bought the Logitech G710+ but was pretty disapointed, in part due to the switch which I had thought would be more tactile (is uses MX browns if anyone here didnt know..) Does anyone know if that is because of the construcion of the G710+ or are they almost identical to all other browns?
I realize that they are manufactured by the same company but if memory serves I think I heard somewhere that manufacturers put their own "spin" on the switches sometimes?

anyways, sorry about the long intro :P

cheers!

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Re: Hello from Denmark!
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 05 February 2013, 14:14:10 »
Say: "Hello geekhack, goodbye money!" :)
Just keep on reading, keep on progressing, keep on learning, and have fun!


Offline Winther

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Re: Hello from Denmark!
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 05 February 2013, 14:55:32 »
hehe, yahr thats what im afraid of.. :P

any recomendable topics or sites to read?

and btw where can I find a description of all the Cherry switches? I know about the Black, reds, browns and blues. but i find its hard to find info about greens, clears, whites, dark grays and so on.. :)

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Re: Hello from Denmark!
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 05 February 2013, 14:58:32 »
Welcome to Geekhack!

The same switch can feel different in different boards for a number of reasons.  The biggest difference is whether switches are plate-mounted or PCB-mounted.  Apart from that you have PCB construction, case construction and keycap construction to consider.

Browns are generally regarded as less tactile than blues, and many people prefer linear (reds or blacks) for gaming.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Offline Winther

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Re: Hello from Denmark!
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 05 February 2013, 15:13:41 »
Thanks!  :D

yahr ok, thanks for that! then I might go with browns instead og blues. anyways I think I have have the chance to try them all out before I buy a Keyboard..

I really dont like reds, and I dont really see the point of getting a mech keyboard if its not tactile, but thats probably just me.. :P

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Re: Hello from Denmark!
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 05 February 2013, 15:21:30 »
Historical perceptive - (nearly) all old mechanical keyboards were tactile and noisy!

Your next choice with a Ducky Shine will be LED colour ;)

Or, if you don't want backlighting, consider a Ducky Zero (although there are not many reviews of them yet) or a QFR.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Offline Winther

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Re: Hello from Denmark!
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 05 February 2013, 15:37:01 »
I would like LEDs.. I really like the reactive mode on the ducky.. not very usefull but sooo cool.. :P
My computer has a white/black/red theme.. ideally i would want red LEDs, white keycaps and a black housing. :)

another keyboard I just have to get at some point is the
KBT Pure.. get a nice red anodized aluminium case, white keycaps and red leds.. that would look nice. but cant seem to find that with a nordic ISO layout.. :/

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Re: Hello from Denmark!
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 05 February 2013, 15:44:16 »
Ah - ISO.  Another complexity :(

I hope you are able to find a keyboard that you eventually like :)
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

NEC APC-H4100E | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED red | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED green | Link 900243-08 | CM QFR MX black | KeyCool 87 white MX reds | HHKB 2 Pro | Model M 02-Mar-1993 | Model M 29-Nov-1995 | CM Trigger (broken) | CM QFS MX green | Ducky DK9087 Shine 3 TKL Yellow Edition MX black | Lexmark SSK 21-Apr-1994 | IBM SSK 13-Oct-1987 | CODE TKL MX clear | Model M 122 01-Jun-1988

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Re: Re: Hello from Denmark!
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 05 February 2013, 16:38:29 »
hehe, yahr thats what im afraid of.. :P

any recomendable topics or sites to read?

and btw where can I find a description of all the Cherry switches? I know about the Black, reds, browns and blues. but i find its hard to find info about greens, clears, whites, dark grays and so on.. :)

Try the deskthority wiki
WASD V1 - waiting on R4... - MX Brown
KBT Pure - Zinc caps - MX Brown
Cherry G80-1800 ISO WKL - SkiData caps - MX Clear