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Offline Chizbang

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First timer!
« on: Tue, 19 March 2013, 22:15:38 »
Hi!
Im new to mechanical keyboards and have never had one before.
I get along perfectly with my Apple wireless keyboard and I can type very very fast on it. I have been looking at a few mechanical keyboards lately as I think I would benefit from one. I have noticed that allot of them have a dip in the middle:


I tried one out in store (it was the only mechanical keyboard around) which was the STEELSERIES 6GV2. I found the keys height and position really uncomfortable and too hard. Maybe I should be looking at something like a Cherry Red keyboard like a QuickFire Rapid? That still has a small dip in it though. Is this something people adjust to or is it something you either like or hate? The reason im  so bothered about all this is because im a programmer and gamer so its kind of importent to get the right kind of feel on my keyboard. If anyone could point me in the right direction that would be swell! :)

My budget is £60.
Any ideas?
Thanks!

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Offline TheQsanity

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Re: First timer!
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 20 March 2013, 03:00:12 »
Steelseries6gv2 has blacks which never really give a good first impression. I have the 7g. You kinda need tot get used to the hardness. Most starters start with cherry blue brown or red.
What is this "dip"?
Curvature in the keycaps or how much longer it is to bottom out than a chicklet(flat) keyboard?
The key presses for most keyboards are longer than Apple's. but especially with cherr mx , you dont have to press the key down all the way for it to actuate.
You can mod cherry mx with o-rings which can decrease the keypress length by quite a bit as well as dampen some sound.

What keyboard layout are you looking for?
What will you mainly be using it for?
What form factor? (Fullsized, tenkeyless, 60%, etc)

I would recommend red or brown switches to anyone. Blue if they like the click. Red then brown are the lightest.
I would recomend cmstorm to any newcomer mainly because of the price over quality. Cmstorm quickfire rapid is a great keyboard and most people are able to buy two with their budget. So they can try two switches out.
If I were to be really honest I wouldnt get any keyboards out on the market but get custom keyboards like:
The phantom
Gh60
Hypermicro/mini
Kmac
Ergodox
Poker
Etc.
SmallFry! <3

Offline Chizbang

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Re: First timer!
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 20 March 2013, 08:24:50 »
Hi!
I would be using it for programming and gaming. And yeah I did mean like a cuvereture. Im used to completely flat keyboards at the moment but IM sure il adjust. Looks like the QFR is the way to go!
Thanks very much for your advice, if theres anything more to be said, let me know! :)

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Re: First timer!
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 20 March 2013, 08:41:24 »
It is great that you want to try a mechanical keyboard, I write daily and I am very glad I went this way and I will never return to rubber dome based keyboards, now even the nice Thinkpad keyboard in my beloved X61 feels cheap. Regarding the type of switch and board layout you should try some until you find the one that fits your taste, first, and your needs, second, Cherry reds are really nice, but you will hear a lot of versions at GH because it is a matter of personal preferences, thus you should go for the same path most of us had gone, try and error. However Your comment "I get along perfectly with my Apple wireless keyboard..." confused me, because I can tell no mechanical switch is like the apple's rubber domes so you should be aware this will not be an apple to apple comparison, so to speak. 8)

Hi!
Im new to mechanical keyboards and have never had one before.
I get along perfectly with my Apple wireless keyboard and I can type very very fast on it. I have been looking at a few mechanical keyboards lately as I think I would benefit from one. I have noticed that allot of them have a dip in the middle:
Show Image


I tried one out in store (it was the only mechanical keyboard around) which was the STEELSERIES 6GV2. I found the keys height and position really uncomfortable and too hard. Maybe I should be looking at something like a Cherry Red keyboard like a QuickFire Rapid? That still has a small dip in it though. Is this something people adjust to or is it something you either like or hate? The reason im  so bothered about all this is because im a programmer and gamer so its kind of importent to get the right kind of feel on my keyboard. If anyone could point me in the right direction that would be swell! :)

My budget is £60.
Any ideas?
Thanks!

Offline Chizbang

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Re: First timer!
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 20 March 2013, 09:01:54 »
Thanks for the write up!
Yeah I suppose it is more of a trial and error. If I dont get along with my QFR I could always sell it as they hold their value I suppose.
I mentioned the Apple keyboard because thats the kind of keys im used to and the position im used to along with the feel. Not really related but just incase I thought that might help ;)
Thanks again for the info!

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Re: First timer!
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 20 March 2013, 09:47:28 »
Hi!
Im new to mechanical keyboards and have never had one before.
I get along perfectly with my Apple wireless keyboard and I can type very very fast on it. I have been looking at a few mechanical keyboards lately as I think I would benefit from one. I have noticed that allot of them have a dip in the middle:
Show Image


I tried one out in store (it was the only mechanical keyboard around) which was the STEELSERIES 6GV2. I found the keys height and position really uncomfortable and too hard. Maybe I should be looking at something like a Cherry Red keyboard like a QuickFire Rapid? That still has a small dip in it though. Is this something people adjust to or is it something you either like or hate? The reason im  so bothered about all this is because im a programmer and gamer so its kind of importent to get the right kind of feel on my keyboard. If anyone could point me in the right direction that would be swell! :)

My budget is £60.
Any ideas?
Thanks!

I think you are looking for something with OEM keys. But be careful because some boards like Filco say they have OEM keys but its their version of it with more of a curve.

Offline IvanIvanovich

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Re: First timer!
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 20 March 2013, 11:23:40 »
If you're looking for something with flat profile lower keycap, maybe you should look at Cherry G80-3800.

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Re: First timer!
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 20 March 2013, 11:33:27 »
Deck also uses a flat profile:

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Offline Chizbang

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Re: First timer!
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 20 March 2013, 11:36:01 »
Aha! Looks interesting!
I would prefer a keyboard without a keypad because of space limitations, but I dont really care if its the right keyboard.
I shall look into them! :D

Offline Skull_Angel

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Re: First timer!
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 20 March 2013, 15:14:23 »
Aha! Looks interesting!
I would prefer a keyboard without a keypad because of space limitations, but I dont really care if its the right keyboard.
I shall look into them! :D


Also be aware that the boards them selves have no curvature; it's all due to keycap row-sculpting and keycaps can be easily replaced, it just may be a bit tough to find keycap sets with no row-sculpting.

Offline deazncy

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Re: First timer!
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 21 March 2013, 02:45:31 »
The dip that you're talking about might help you type more accurately since your fingers will slide into the key that you want to press. You can't go wrong with the QFR.
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Re: First timer!
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 21 March 2013, 08:24:53 »
If you like small boards, and you use it a lot for programming, I think you would love the HHKB, but I wouldn't recommend a cheaper board first, maybe a QFR with browns, or clears if you can! :D Good luck finding the right kind of board man.
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