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Offline mAz

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Salvageable or time for a new keyboard?
« on: Sun, 24 March 2013, 07:21:29 »
Hey guys, I'm posting this on behalf of my friend who doesn't have a GH account...

Just been on Skype to my mate and he was telling me that his keyboard was broken (Generic fault or what?!). Anyway it turns out that he managed to break the "+" fitting off the Cherry switch while swapping his keyset over (He is a sensible guy so I can only imagine it was a genuine accident).

He wants to know, is it possible to remove a single Cherry switch from the CMS-QFR keyboard or is it PCB mounted? Obviously if it is PCB mounted, every switch needs to be de-soldered and that is a bit of a pain so he says he would just buy a new keyboard with his birthday cash but thought we would ask here first.

Dan

Offline laden3

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Re: Salvageable or time for a new keyboard?
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 24 March 2013, 07:45:20 »
Just desolder that specific broken switch and replace it with a working one.

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Offline mAz

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Re: Salvageable or time for a new keyboard?
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 24 March 2013, 07:49:42 »
Just desolder that specific broken switch and replace it with a working one.

That is what I suggested to him but he says that because it isn't on the outermost of the PCB (it's the "\" key underneath "A") it's hard to get to it, is it possible to change just the top part of the switch (The bit the with the actual "+" sign on).

PS. Sorry if I'm not naming keys/parts very well, I'm unsure of what they could be called

Dan

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Re: Salvageable or time for a new keyboard?
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 24 March 2013, 08:01:10 »
Tell him to open up the keyboard and figure out how it was constructed... If he has the money to buy a new keyboard, I am pretty sure he won't mind breaking this old one into pieces.

I believe you are talking about the stem. If it is a QFR, it is plate-mounted and you will need to do some soldering work to fix it in the "proper" way.

Otherwise, carefully apply some adhesive on the broken stem, you don't want to get it into the switch. I won't recommend this to someone who can break the stems. Maybe you should offer to do it for him.

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Offline mAz

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Re: Salvageable or time for a new keyboard?
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 24 March 2013, 08:09:15 »
Tell him to open up the keyboard and figure out how it was constructed... If he has the money to buy a new keyboard, I am pretty sure he won't mind breaking this old one into pieces.

I believe you are talking about the stem. If it is a QFR, it is plate-mounted and you will need to do some soldering work to fix it in the "proper" way.

Otherwise, carefully apply some adhesive on the broken stem, you don't want to get it into the switch. I won't recommend this to someone who can break the stems. Maybe you should offer to do it for him.

^ This...

Personally, I'm not an idiot so I should have offered to swap his keys for him by the sound of it!! I suggested some strong adhesive (Something like Araldite) applied to the stem (Thanks for that terminology) but I don't think he will go for that even though he was all "Yeah that's a good idea, I'll try that".

I think it will probably end up in as you say, breaking what he has and ordering a new one anyway but I suppose it will give me a good laugh watching him attempt to fix it (I will see if I can get some pics for you to enjoy also). I guess both him and I learned something valuable today...

He learned - Being more delicate can take longer to do something but won't cost you all the replacement fees on something you love...

I learned - Don't expect an idiot to achieve something that requires patience and a thoughtful approach.

Dan

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Re: Salvageable or time for a new keyboard?
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 24 March 2013, 08:26:41 »
Shouldn't cost you more than $10 to fix that. It is really an easy fix and you should try to help him out.
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Offline mAz

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Re: Salvageable or time for a new keyboard?
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 24 March 2013, 08:32:38 »
Shouldn't cost you more than $10 to fix that. It is really an easy fix and you should try to help him out.

Well personally I would just Araldite the stem and take care when using that particular key (Or on the other hand I would have taken more care when replacing the caps!). Then again as much as he is a very good mate, I wouldn't want to do it, get the mixture in the switch and cause him to have to buy a new 'board if he is able to affix the broken one back on.

Offline aggiejy

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Re: Salvageable or time for a new keyboard?
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 24 March 2013, 10:00:22 »
Or sell the broken one to one of us.  :)

Offline mAz

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Re: Salvageable or time for a new keyboard?
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 24 March 2013, 10:13:18 »
Or sell the broken one to one of us.  :)

Well I'm thinking if he doesn't want the broken one, I will take it off his hands and see if I can do anything with it as it is already broken it is like a template for a project I guess!

Offline IvanIvanovich

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Re: Salvageable or time for a new keyboard?
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 24 March 2013, 21:50:27 »
Only one broken stem, one switch of course it is salvageable... is like 10 minutes repair job, and very easy to desolder and solder replacement switch.

Offline Demofly

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Re: Salvageable or time for a new keyboard?
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 24 March 2013, 22:01:32 »
You can buy a replacement switch and take the switch and keyboard to any electronics repair place and they will fix it for a couple bucks. Know a friend who is an electrician? Or a friend who knows an electrician?
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