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Update: July Model M bolt mod and Cherry soldering gathering [Chicagoland area]
« on: Fri, 19 April 2013, 20:51:32 »
A date will be chosen IN JULY and a list of supplies/tools you will need will be posted.  You show up and we spend the day with 1 maybe 2 certified bolt modders showing how to mod your board / chat / and if you run into issues figure out how to get out of them.

Because of the time it takes to perform this mod it will be less like the recent gatherings and more focused on the modding effort.

UPDATE

Assuming the location is in the Chicagoland area PM me if you are SERIOUS about showing up.  I need a head count by Mon May 6th.

Headcount so far:

dante
tipo33
Dianoda
CPTBadAss
SmallFry
Trent
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 19 April 2013, 21:08:57 »
I have quite a few spare barrel plates from terminal boards to offer if any mistakes are made as well as springs, cases etc...  You can  put me down as attending/teaching.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 19 April 2013, 21:10:49 »
I'd attend. I need to bolt mod my M even though mine isn't currently working. I keep breaking rivets on mine.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 19 April 2013, 21:18:34 »
Done, I'm there. Tipo, save an M or SSK for me? :P
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 19 April 2013, 21:19:34 »
Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 19 April 2013, 21:18:34
Done, I'm there. Tipo, save an M or SSK for me? :P
Got a fullsize with your name on it.   ;)
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 19 April 2013, 21:41:16 »
My man. :D
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 19 April 2013, 22:01:28 »
What if this was expanded to more than just the buckling spring? For example, it would be cool to learn first-hand how to solder/desolder an MX keyboard.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 19 April 2013, 22:13:22 »
Works for me, I can bring my iron.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 19 April 2013, 22:15:36 »
Quote from: keymaster on Fri, 19 April 2013, 22:01:28
What if this was expanded to more than just the buckling spring? For example, it would be cool to learn first-hand how to solder/desolder an MX keyboard.

I like this idea as well. I'd love to have someone help me mod switches or something.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 19 April 2013, 22:19:18 »
I am going to research locations around the Chicagoland area that will be suitable for our madness.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 19 April 2013, 22:19:45 »
I would love a soldering tutorial.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 19 April 2013, 22:20:27 »
We could always host at the Cyber Arena again if they don't mind us.
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Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 19 April 2013, 22:21:16 »
God I wish I could go! I could give a lesson on how to disassemble a switch, lube and sticker it!

I hate living in South Dakota :'(


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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 19 April 2013, 22:22:29 »
I can do that also. :P I has the materials on hand.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 19 April 2013, 22:22:39 »
Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 19 April 2013, 22:20:27
We could always host at the Cyber Arena again if they don't mind us.

I'm not sure they would be up for power tools and soldering irons.  I think I will try contacting Devry as they have an electronics program and see what they think.

Also these guys: http://freegeekchicago.org/
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 19 April 2013, 22:24:05 »
Good point. Party at the Great Lakes base!
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 19 April 2013, 22:43:22 »
Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 19 April 2013, 22:24:05
Good point. Party at the Great Lakes base!
We wouldn't get anything done....  lol
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 20 April 2013, 08:34:36 »
Quote from: keymaster on Fri, 19 April 2013, 22:01:28
What if this was expanded to more than just the buckling spring? For example, it would be cool to learn first-hand how to solder/desolder an MX keyboard.

The main focus will be the buckling spring keyboard and I don't want to lose sight of this.  That being said, If there is time I'd love to learn how to solder/desolder Alps.  If the GH60 MX/Alps version are ready when this goes down they would be perfect due to not having that many switches.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 20 April 2013, 08:37:02 »
Quote from: dante on Sat, 20 April 2013, 08:34:36
Quote from: keymaster on Fri, 19 April 2013, 22:01:28
What if this was expanded to more than just the buckling spring? For example, it would be cool to learn first-hand how to solder/desolder an MX keyboard.

The main focus will be the buckling spring keyboard and I don't want to lose sight of this.  That being said, If there is time I'd love to learn how to solder/desolder Alps.  If the GH60 MX/Alps version are ready when this goes down they would be perfect due to not having that many switches.

Dante, I'll have a Dell AT101W pcb with Alps switches in it. I can bring that along if you like as well.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 20 April 2013, 09:14:08 »
If you have not done much soldering, read this first:

http://mightyohm.com/blog/2011/04/soldering-is-easy-comic-book/
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:57:44 »
Ok I'm getting questions about timing on this ...

So by April 30th I want to nail down a date.  Anyone who is interested in doing this please suggest days/months that best work for you.  The target area will be Southern Wisconsin / Northern Illinois - but possibly also Chicago.

This will likely happen sometime between next June and the end of the year.  Obviously Ski is going to get the last say in dates :D

Like I said, this will primarily be Model M focused however if someone wants to hold out for the GH60 or related custom keyboards and you can find a Jedi for that - we can postpone it accordingly.

I will be developing a list of things you will need to bring and you will have at least a month to acquire everything.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 20 April 2013, 13:07:00 »
I'd prefer it to be on a weekend and not at the end of May or August. And please don't move it too far from where the last meet was. That drive was pretty ideal for me. But I'll come out regardless.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #22 on: Sat, 20 April 2013, 14:55:20 »
A weekend would be ideal for me as well.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 26 April 2013, 22:44:47 »
Tipo, I got my hands on an SSK so you don't have to hold onto a Model M for me. Would the bolt mod be the same?
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 26 April 2013, 22:45:53 »
Yeppers, just less rivets. :D
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #25 on: Sat, 27 April 2013, 11:07:41 »
Quote from: SmallFry on Fri, 26 April 2013, 22:45:53
Yeppers, just less rivets. :D

I did one SSK. I was surprised that there were actually almost as many rivets, I was expecting less.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #26 on: Sat, 27 April 2013, 12:59:31 »
Depending on the actual date that was chosen, I'd be down for this.

I'd have a full-sized Model M and an SSK that I'd like to bolt mod.
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« Reply #27 on: Sat, 27 April 2013, 13:07:56 »
Wanna roadtrip mashby?? :D
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #28 on: Sat, 27 April 2013, 13:14:03 »
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Wanna roadtrip mashby?? :D

Maybe. I might just fly up though if the airfare is cheap enough.  :rolleyes:
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #29 on: Sat, 27 April 2013, 19:24:26 »
Quote from: mashby on Sat, 27 April 2013, 13:14:03
Maybe. I might just fly up though if the airfare is cheap enough.  :rolleyes:
Would love to have you. 

@CPT - picks or it didn't happen :p
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« Reply #30 on: Sat, 27 April 2013, 19:37:36 »
Don't worry, I'll have pics as soon as I get it!
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #31 on: Sat, 27 April 2013, 20:03:13 »
It should be noted that laptop chicklet keys are the perfect donor plastic to fix cracked/broken barrel frames. If it was closer to MN I could attend as a teacher, but I aint doing 13 hours of driving.





EDIT: That ground off spot is where I was testing plastic cements, just ignore it.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #32 on: Sat, 27 April 2013, 20:22:12 »
In 1.5 weeks I should have an answer on location.  I will do everything I can to make sure it occurs by a major highway.
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« Reply #33 on: Sat, 27 April 2013, 20:23:13 »
You're the man dante, thanks for doing all the leg work!
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 01 May 2013, 14:08:05 »
Update:

First issue is concerns of how the power tool work may nick up / damage work tables.

Second issue is worry about injuries.  Either someone who dumps hot solder on themselves/someone else or drills a hole in someones hand.

I'm now researching waivers everyone will have to sign before participating... fun!
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 01 May 2013, 14:27:43 »
There is no reason for soldering to take place unless you are wiring up Teensys.

You can put down heavy mats, newspapers, or masonite to protect whatever tables you are working on.

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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #36 on: Wed, 01 May 2013, 14:28:37 »
Wiring up Teensys, modifying Cherry switches etc. I think we kinda expanded the focus of this, but not to lose focus of bolt modding.
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« Reply #37 on: Wed, 01 May 2013, 14:28:54 »
Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 01 May 2013, 14:27:43
There is no reason for soldering to take place unless you are wiring up Teensys.


A few people want to solder up Cherry boards.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #38 on: Wed, 01 May 2013, 14:29:09 »
Beatcha. :P
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« Reply #39 on: Wed, 01 May 2013, 14:42:50 »
If the soldering may cause an issue in reserving and using an area, then it's best to just keep this meet for simply the bolt modding.
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« Reply #40 on: Wed, 01 May 2013, 14:46:07 »
Quote from: keymaster on Wed, 01 May 2013, 14:42:50
If the soldering may cause an issue in reserving and using an area, then it's best to just keep this meet for simply the bolt modding.
During bolt modding you will be using a dremmel,  there is still a danger of injury.  That being said,  I am an HM and I will provide prompt medical care to anyone at the meet,
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 01 May 2013, 14:55:45 »
Quote from: dante on Wed, 01 May 2013, 14:08:05
Update:

First issue is concerns of how the power tool work may nick up / damage work tables.

Second issue is worry about injuries.  Either someone who dumps hot solder on themselves/someone else or drills a hole in someones hand.

I'm now researching waivers everyone will have to sign before participating... fun!

You really think people will injure themselves bolt-modding a Model M?... And how does one "dump hot solder"? Are you saying you solder keyboards in a lead bath?!
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #42 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 12:53:59 »
See 1st post.  I need a head count by Monday May 6th.  If you are serious about showing up send me a PM.

I realize the date will be up in the air but I need to get an idea of how many people are seriously showing up as this will affect where we end up.
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« Reply #43 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:17:51 »
I'd show up if I could borrow the dremel and do WFD's LED switch mod on the switches for my LZ-GH (the one where you can have LEDs installed but still remove the top switch cover).  This is also assuming I'm not out of town when the meetup occurs (I have multiple travel plans this month - weddings, etc.).
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« Reply #44 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:19:18 »
Sent you a PM Sir dante :D
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« Reply #45 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:22:33 »
Quote from: Dianoda on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:17:51
I'd show up if I could borrow the dremel and do WFD's LED switch mod on the switches for my LZ-GH (the one where you can have LEDs installed but still remove the top switch cover).  This is also assuming I'm not out of town when the meetup occurs (I have multiple travel plans this month - weddings, etc.).

This will not happen until July at the earliest.  If there is a month/weekend in the upcoming months that's off limits speak now or forever hold your peace.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:22:42 »
Quote from: The_Ed on Wed, 01 May 2013, 14:55:45

You really think people will injure themselves bolt-modding a Model M?... And how does one "dump hot solder"? Are you saying you solder keyboards in a lead bath?!

I think that I hurt myself shaving the rivets and posts with a chisel point X-acto one time.

Do wear eye protection when drilling the rivet stems.

Tools and metal plates can certainly scratch up a nice table top, that is a real concern.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:24:17 »
Quote from: dante on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:22:33
Quote from: Dianoda on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:17:51
I'd show up if I could borrow the dremel and do WFD's LED switch mod on the switches for my LZ-GH (the one where you can have LEDs installed but still remove the top switch cover).  This is also assuming I'm not out of town when the meetup occurs (I have multiple travel plans this month - weddings, etc.).

This will not happen until July at the earliest.  If there is a month/weekend in the upcoming months that's off limits speak now or forever hold your peace.

August will likely be bad for me; depending on how work goes. July and September would be preferable.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #48 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:25:56 »
Always cut away from yourself.

My glasses are my eye protection. (There's a scratch on the right lens...)

I use cardboard on cardtables.
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Re: Any interest in a Model M bolt mod gathering? [Chicagoland area]
« Reply #49 on: Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:27:39 »
Quote from: dante on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:22:33
Quote from: Dianoda on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:17:51
I'd show up if I could borrow the dremel and do WFD's LED switch mod on the switches for my LZ-GH (the one where you can have LEDs installed but still remove the top switch cover).  This is also assuming I'm not out of town when the meetup occurs (I have multiple travel plans this month - weddings, etc.).

This will not happen until July at the earliest.  If there is a month/weekend in the upcoming months that's off limits speak now or forever hold your peace.

Ah, well, if it's in July, I'll need to have my switches ready before then anyways (I will probably need to send them out for soldering before the end of the month).  And I don't own a Model M to mod (I like my switches light...), either, so maybe I'll stop by to check things out if I'm free, but don't let me complicate scheduling for the rest.
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