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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 07 May 2013, 18:20:37 »
Maybe it's just that one guy's 660C so people probably don't have to worry. I just thought I'd share it because it was the first video that popped up when I youtube'd "660C".

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #51 on: Wed, 08 May 2013, 07:55:51 »
Exploring hackerability

Controller is on a daughter board. Easy to replace.



This is the connector, let's see if I can find a replacement.


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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #52 on: Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:06:47 »
Exploring hackerability

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Controller is on a daughter board. Easy to replace.

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This is the connector, let's see if I can find a replacement.

Niiiiiiice... getting a Teensy in there with some blank caps would make my day.

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #53 on: Wed, 08 May 2013, 15:06:34 »
I smell so much sexy... maybe a GB in the future for replacement boards if the GB gods are listening.
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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #54 on: Wed, 08 May 2013, 16:47:09 »
I ordered a couple of 20 header connectors from mouser today. I couldn't really tell if they are the right ones from the almost nonexistent specs. I should get them in a couple of days, I hope one will fit. Tomorrow I'll try to find the key matrix. go-go gadget multimeter!

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #55 on: Wed, 08 May 2013, 23:55:05 »
Please document as much as you can !!! <3

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 09 May 2013, 01:38:44 »
will do!

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #57 on: Thu, 09 May 2013, 05:41:13 »
Also very interested to see this... these new 660C's are making it hard for me to not buying a Captivate switch board :))

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 10 May 2013, 12:36:59 »
Can anyone comment on the keycap printing. Inspecting the images posted I get the impression it would easily wear off, kinda like the printing on the kbt pure pbt caps.

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #59 on: Sun, 12 May 2013, 20:31:04 »
Does anyone think they'll release this thing in gray and/or white? I wouldn't even mind black with blanks, but the keycap printing looks so bad :(

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #61 on: Tue, 14 May 2013, 13:54:22 »
Sounds promising! I'd love to wire up a teensy 3 to this thing, if possible. Maybe add a USB hub

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #62 on: Tue, 14 May 2013, 19:22:55 »
Does anyone think they'll release this thing in gray and/or white? I wouldn't even mind black with blanks, but the keycap printing looks so bad :(

I'm with this guy.  I have a white RF, and would love to keep the Topre collection white.

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #63 on: Tue, 14 May 2013, 19:38:30 »
Does anyone think they'll release this thing in gray and/or white? I wouldn't even mind black with blanks, but the keycap printing looks so bad :(

I'm with this guy.  I have a white RF, and would love to keep the Topre collection white.

"guy"  :rolleyes:

I think elitekeyboards said that there was a check box for white/grey option on the box so it's very possible.

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #64 on: Tue, 14 May 2013, 19:47:19 »
The more I look at it, the more I think they could have used the 1.5-1-1.5 mod layout so the topre keycap sets would have been compatible. =/

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #65 on: Tue, 14 May 2013, 20:22:31 »
I have to agree with this because if i end up getting one of these and make it my primary keyboard, I'd like to have as much custom keycap options available as possible :(

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #66 on: Tue, 14 May 2013, 20:33:45 »
Can someone give a detailed description of keyfeel....the 660c vs the HHKB?  Por favor.
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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #67 on: Tue, 14 May 2013, 20:42:37 »
I just noticed my 660c has a capacitance? equation. kewl.

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Curious why they did this. Anyone know?

I know this is an old post to quote, but I *just* noticed this today for the first time.  Funny, as I've been using it as my primary board since Boost's first shipment.  It kind of blends in with normal lighting.

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #68 on: Tue, 14 May 2013, 22:48:03 »
Can someone give a detailed description of keyfeel....the 660c vs the HHKB?  Por favor.

It's very similar, but the bottom-out is a bit crisper. It's kind of a blend between the 45g Realforce and the HHKB. One thing about the HHKB that I could never get used to was the feeling that at any point the board might slide around due to the force of typing on it. I don't have that with the FC660C at all.


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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #69 on: Tue, 14 May 2013, 22:49:28 »
Does anyone think they'll release this thing in gray and/or white? I wouldn't even mind black with blanks, but the keycap printing looks so bad :(

I'm with this guy.  I have a white RF, and would love to keep the Topre collection white.

"guy"  :rolleyes:

I think elitekeyboards said that there was a check box for white/grey option on the box so it's very possible.

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #70 on: Wed, 15 May 2013, 10:21:21 »
FedEx just delivered my FC660C. 

Here it is compared with my Pure

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #71 on: Wed, 15 May 2013, 10:27:26 »
I love mine but that WIN8 logo is really killing me.

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #72 on: Wed, 15 May 2013, 17:45:35 »
I just got mine today as well, does anyone feel that the insert key produces a slightly different sound/feel?

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #73 on: Wed, 15 May 2013, 22:20:58 »
Great review, it's making me want to pick one up!
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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #74 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 00:18:10 »
I just got mine today as well, does anyone feel that the insert key produces a slightly different sound/feel?

I don't like the sound coming from my backspace key, it sounds really different than all the other keys.
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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #75 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 06:43:48 »
Is that gold or silver legends? Are the keys actually black or grey?
Gold legends, black keys.

It's actually brownish/tan legends, and dark grey keys.
 

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #76 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 06:47:00 »
Is that gold or silver legends? Are the keys actually black or grey?
Gold legends, black keys.

It's actually brownish/tan legends, and dark grey keys.

Seriously? It's going to be very difficult to wait for a different color after reading this. Wish they had done black on dark grey instead and I'm doubtful we'll see more sets for this board.

Edit - Anyway you can take some all-star photos that show off more accurate colors? :)

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #77 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 06:57:49 »

this is pretty close to the real thing in terms of colors.


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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #78 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 07:03:18 »
Thanks so much for the photo Matt3o!! I definitely dislike them less after seeing your photo and knowing that they're grey and not black, but I'm still not sure what I want to do :p

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #79 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 07:16:08 »
So you still dislike them, but just less. They won't have one with black legends on dark grey. Just wait for the blanks to come out, I think you like blanks more anyways. There will be white ones later, but given Leopold's history, it'll be more like beige.

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #80 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 07:30:10 »
So you still dislike them, but just less. They won't have one with black legends on dark grey. Just wait for the blanks to come out, I think you like blanks more anyways. There will be white ones later, but given Leopold's history, it'll be more like beige.

I'm probably going to take your advice, but I'm thinking I could resell this one for a small loss if something else comes out. I do really want blanks like you mentioned for the simple reason that I enjoy the look, but all blank mods will work so much better with Topre colored sets and I won't have to worry about the non replaceable 1.25x stuff. Thanks for your input :)

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #81 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 08:15:33 »
Thanks for this review!

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #82 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 08:31:25 »
So you still dislike them, but just less. They won't have one with black legends on dark grey. Just wait for the blanks to come out, I think you like blanks more anyways. There will be white ones later, but given Leopold's history, it'll be more like beige.
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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #83 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 10:28:32 »
The lack of indepth reviews existing on this new topre market entrant makes me a sad Nicholas Cage.
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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #84 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 11:48:25 »
The lack of indepth reviews existing on this new topre market entrant makes me a sad Nicholas Cage.

what would you like to know?

The keyboard is great. Feels and sounds better than a HHKB. I don't have a realforce, I can't make a comparison with that.

Caps are PBT with a very nice texture but legends are not dye sub'd, you can see them wearing out just after 10 days of use (just slightly, but still...).

The layout is great, I really love it and I prefer it to a 60%. Having dedicated arrows with page up/down/home/end FN layer is just perfect for me. The DEL key is a nice addition even though they could have added FN+BS as well. INS is completely useless instead.

The FN layer is brilliant. Also Shift+ESC=~ and FN+ESC=`

I didn't like the right part of the keyboard initially, but I must say that now that I have it in front of may nose, I'm totally in love with it.

What I don't like is the position of the FN key. It can be swapped with the win key, but it's still not perfect.

Definitely one of my preferred keyboard ever.

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #85 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 13:21:03 »
my package has been delivered... must... resist... bailing on work... 
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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #86 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 15:19:04 »
After much consideration I took the plunge to get Topre like everyone said and it was definitely the best advice.  This keyboard is a dream to type on.

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #87 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 17:03:58 »
Agh I can't wait to get this! Only just got delivered to my US proxy this morning - should be in my hot little hands in NZ next Friday! ;D
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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #88 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 20:22:12 »
Well, this is my first time using topre and it definitley is a unique and excellent experience. However, I can see why most people prefer the 55g weighted over 45g.

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #89 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 20:25:01 »
Well, this is my first time using topre and it definitley is a unique and excellent experience. However, I can see why most people prefer the 55g weighted over 45g.
55g w/ blank caps and I'd be all over this ... although one of the two would be enough for me to jump on this.

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #90 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 20:32:37 »
They did plan on releasing a white version this month or the next. No guarantee though. I think they were having issues with key caps printing with whites.

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #91 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 21:18:45 »
I think they were having issues with key caps printing with whites.

Ohh the irony..
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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #92 on: Thu, 16 May 2013, 23:55:40 »
Here's a nice typing video...


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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #93 on: Fri, 17 May 2013, 00:05:51 »
They did plan on releasing a white version this month or the next. No guarantee though. I think they were having issues with key caps printing with whites.

Then they should just go with blanks  :p

Here's a nice typing video...


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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #94 on: Fri, 17 May 2013, 00:23:54 »
am I the only one that started laughing at 1:30 lol

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« Reply #95 on: Fri, 17 May 2013, 00:33:15 »
^ haha he started getting aggressive with those key presses.

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #96 on: Fri, 17 May 2013, 00:40:14 »
vtec kicked in yo..in his fingers.

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #97 on: Fri, 17 May 2013, 00:49:53 »
Lol, he needs something heavy like buckling spring. Spare the poor Topre from this savagery.

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #98 on: Fri, 17 May 2013, 01:29:09 »
I've been deliberating picking up an FC660C for the past few days and decided I'm going to wait until I can afford an HHKB as my first Topre board.

Anyways, there's one FC660C left at EK, and I need it to stop staring at me, so GOGOGOGO!

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Re: Leopold FC660C
« Reply #99 on: Fri, 17 May 2013, 02:10:35 »
I've been deliberating picking up an FC660C for the past few days and decided I'm going to wait until I can afford an HHKB as my first Topre board.

Anyways, there's one FC660C left at EK, and I need it to stop staring at me, so GOGOGOGO!

:eek: Wow, so it's finally going to sell out. How do you know how many are in stock?