oh no, finally need mac "fn" key (realforce 87u)

[rebcabin2]

investigating iMops (http://sourceforge.net/projects/powermops/files/iMops/) Forth for Mac, its IDE uses fn-enter on the Mac keyboard to run code
Anyone know how to get or sim a mac fn-key on a RealForce 87u? I tried all 32 combinations of {rt-ctrl, lft-ctrl, alt, win, shift} + Enter for a no go. I gave up on all 64 combos of {rt-ctrl, lft-ctrl, rt-shift, lft-shift, alt, win}.

Alternative: mod the source and rebuild iMops so it doesn't use the silly fn key

[kwago]

Key remap for macbook

[aggiejy]

Well, Fn-return is "enter" on a mac.  (The equivalent to the enter key on the num pad)  It goes by the symbol:


So with that in mind, I'd start by looking at some key remapping software and then I'd map enter (not return) to a different keystroke or extra key.  I've used http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/ quite a bit, but I haven't looked to see if Enter is mappable via that.

[TotalChaos]

Or he could buy a proper keyboard with all the standard keys present.

[esoomenona]

aggie, if that is so, couldn't he turn the Num Lock on and press the key to the right of P?

[daerid]

aggie, if that is so, couldn't he turn the Num Lock on and press the key to the right of P?

This. This is going to be the quickest and easiest way to get what you want.

Otherwise, use KeyRemap4Macbook and remap Option+Return to be Numpad Enter.

[rebcabin2]

oddly, num-lock doesn't turn on the embedded LED on my 87-u on the mac, and doesn't enable the numlock function (mapping UIO_P/JKL:"/M,./ to a virtual numpad) (works fine on a PC).  investigating...

might have to go to a 104 or 103 for the mac

[FourOhFour]

Yeah, the realforce's embedded numpad doesn't work on the mac since it is looking for the numlock light. (Which is stupid... who wants their embedded numpad on just because their PC enabled numlock on boot?)

You can use KeyRemap4MacBook to get an fn key. Just install it and enable the setting "Application Key to Fn" under "For PC Users", "Change PC Application Key". This will make the key between right windows and right control fn.

If you want the embedded numpad to work, you can add my settings to your private.xml.

[Rule16]

Or he could buy a proper keyboard with all the standard keys present.

Just because its TKL and doesn't have a key that only Macs use doesn't make it any less of a keyboard. I wouldn't call the fn key "standard" either.

[TotalChaos]

Or he could buy a proper keyboard with all the standard keys present.

Just because its TKL and doesn't have a key that only Macs use doesn't make it any less of a keyboard. I wouldn't call the fn key "standard" either.

All computers use the "Enter" key, not just macs.

[daerid]

The vast vast majority of applications don't distinguish between the enter key in the typing area and the numpad enter key. Actually differentiating between the two would be less standard.

[rebcabin2]

Yeah, the realforce's embedded numpad doesn't work on the mac since it is looking for the numlock light. (Which is stupid... who wants their embedded numpad on just because their PC enabled numlock on boot?)

You can use KeyRemap4MacBook to get an fn key. Just install it and enable the setting "Application Key to Fn" under "For PC Users", "Change PC Application Key". This will make the key between right windows and right control fn.

If you want the embedded numpad to work, you can add my settings to your private.xml.

Thanks   I'm going down this road.  Didn't know about the "private.xml" juju before

EDIT: KeyRemap4MacBook == key-geek paradise!  emacs mode FTWOMG!

[sth]

Or he could buy a proper keyboard with all the standard keys present.

Just because its TKL and doesn't have a key that only Macs use doesn't make it any less of a keyboard. I wouldn't call the fn key "standard" either.

All computers use the "Enter" key, not just macs.

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