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Offline RougeR

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http://www.recycledgoods.com/category/33963
known about this for a while, likely posted before..but lots of mechanicals here, im uk so shipping is a joke...so here ya go

8x wyse 840059-01 mx black, double shots (i think)
http://www.recycledgoods.com/product/8622_wyse_840059-01_keyboard-for-wyse-ascii-wy-50/350-din-10

8x more
http://www.recycledgoods.com/product/15032_wyse_840059-03_keyboard-for-wyse-75/350

4x 5150 83-Key XT Personal Computer Keyboard model f
http://www.recycledgoods.com/product/10423_ibm_1503206_5150-83-key-xt-personal-computer-keyboard

IBM terminal model m x3
http://www.recycledgoods.com/product/7722_ibm_1390702_122-key-terminal-keyboard-for-3191-/-3192-series-m

IBM model m x 8
http://www.recycledgoods.com/product/7729_ibm_1398609_at-keyboard

Honeywell x 23
http://www.recycledgoods.com/product/16556_honeywell_60164180-001_at-keyboard---115st13-8e-1-j

1x model f 6052101
http://www.recycledgoods.com/product/18896_ibm_6052101_keyboard-3187

1x NMB 121228-101 space invaders
http://www.recycledgoods.com/product/20495_nmb_121228-101_ps/2-win-keyboard---rt6856tw23066

g80-8113 mx brown x3, overpriced.
http://www.recycledgoods.com/product/28873_cherry_g80-8113hrbus-2_ps/2-multi-key-board-w/touch-pad-mx-8100

Dell at101 x 2 also overpriced a bit
http://www.recycledgoods.com/product/35407_dell_at101_new-logo-ps/2-keyboard-at101-gyum97sk

****ing industrial beast with trackball x1
http://www.recycledgoods.com/product/39392_aydin-controls_5119-0002-000_keyboard-giant-mouse

Honeywell 101RX43S-2E-J AT Keyboard Clicky 101RXe x1
http://www.recycledgoods.com/product/28200_honeywell_101rx43s-2e-j_at-keyboard-clicky-101rxe
Honeywell AT 122-Key Keyboard - 122ST13-38E-1 x1
http://www.recycledgoods.com/product/23248_honeywell_122st13_at-122-key-keyboard---122st13-38e-1

BOS 1369969 IBM Style 122 Key Keyboard Model M x8
http://www.recycledgoods.com/product/20604_bos_1369969_ibm-style-122-key-keyboard-model-m

Theres more in there if you look, also some of what i posted may be wrong i did it quickly

Forgot it
model f space unsaver x5
http://www.recycledgoods.com/product/17096_ibm_5640991_vintage-clicky-ibm-3178-terminal-keyboard



« Last Edit: Wed, 01 May 2013, 19:20:19 by RougeR »
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I don't see a space unsaver there?

You'll find they list all their stuff on ebay as well (link). Their prices are usually on the mid/high end and shipping is always higher than usual.
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**** musta not posted it
http://www.recycledgoods.com/product/17096_ibm_5640991_vintage-clicky-ibm-3178-terminal-keyboard
model f space unsaver x5

and yeah i know they post on ebay too, thanks for linking it.
theres some good deals here.
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 I don't think of that as a space unsaver, which is a 122 without the numberpad (a 104).
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I don't think of that as a space unsaver, which is a 122 without the numberpad (a 104).

ah still sort of a spaceunsaver
its tkl

its a IBM 3178 78 key

http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:C1_and_c2.jpg

"The IBM 3178 was a low cost 3270 terminal based on the design of the 3101 launched in 1983. Much like the 3278, it had an array of different 75-key and 87-key keyboard options, and used the same physical and functional layouts as its beam spring predecessors. The keyboard had no feet, and the 75-key variants used the same size casing as the 87-key ones, but with the right hand keypad area covered over. The label on the back of the keyboards are designated with the model of the terminal that they are intended to be used with - C1 through C4. Part numbers were of the form 56409xx depending on version."
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um, no offence intended and not meaning to crap on your thread, but I think we don't need to read a list of what anyone can find himself at recycledgoods' website.

especially because none of these are good deals to begin with.

eg Honeywell going for $89, missing key, no cable, untested (aka, in seller's parlance, doa except seller doesn't want to say it outright). DUH, how are we supposed to make that work? I suppose somebody already has another honeywell with the spare parts? and don't tell me that somebody paid $800 for his honeywell, so $89 is a good deal to him to buy another honeywell for spare parts?
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I don't think of that as a space unsaver, which is a 122 without the numberpad (a 104).

ah still sort of a spaceunsaver
its tkl

its a IBM 3178 78 key

http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:C1_and_c2.jpg

"The IBM 3178 was a low cost 3270 terminal based on the design of the 3101 launched in 1983. Much like the 3278, it had an array of different 75-key and 87-key keyboard options, and used the same physical and functional layouts as its beam spring predecessors. The keyboard had no feet, and the 75-key variants used the same size casing as the 87-key ones, but with the right hand keypad area covered over. The label on the back of the keyboards are designated with the model of the terminal that they are intended to be used with - C1 through C4. Part numbers were of the form 56409xx depending on version."
This is clearly labelled a model C1 keyboard (keyboard for a C1). I was interested in it for a while, because data entry keycaps are less common, and I sort-of wanted some for my buckling spring keyboards.

The "unsaver" is our colloquial name for a 104 key keyboard that has all 34 function keys but no tenkey. It's smaller than a "normal-sized" 122-key keyboard, but doesn't actually save space hence the name.

This (and all the model Cs) actually take up MORE space than their closest relative (the IBM PC/XT keyboard) and don't really fit the term.

Anyway, you got my hopes up with all the honeywell/microswitch talk, but sadly none are hall effect. I browse through recycledgoods a bit looking for them every once-in-a-bit, but they do not appear (at a price I would pay)

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Nobody reads the 'great finds' expecting to buy all of the keyboards that come up.  It's interesting just to see what is out there.  And since prices are subjective, who can say whether the bizarre industrial trackball keyboard is a good deal or not?  So although in principle anyone could see things for themselves on the recycledgoods website - or any website - it's great to post them here.

Out of interest do the IBM terminal boards work with Soarer's converter?

dorkvader, I have a spare set of Data Entry layout key caps from an F122 if you're interested.  I am willing to swap them for a single F122 spacebar.

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From my recollection, it was an IRC discussion prompted by me that "invented" the "unsaver" term...this was back in 2010 when I was pursuing suppliers of the things.

The term was intended, yes, for the 104-key buckling spring keyboards that are laid out like a tenkeyless 122. There are also Honeywell-manufactured rubber dome keyboards of the same physical layout. The key thing to note is that when this term was originally coined, it was believed that all keyboards described by this term shared the same AT-like protocol of the 122s, but eventually an older version (identical except for controller) was found that currently is considered unusable. That one has D-subs rather than the DIN connector.

This is the original keyboard that had the term applied to it: http://www.recycledgoods.com/product/7720_ibm_1387033_keyboard-for-ibm-3290-terminal

There's your GH history lesson for the day...
« Last Edit: Thu, 02 May 2013, 07:55:51 by kishy »
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Re: 5x IBM spaceunsaver, 16x wyse, 23x honeywell, and much much much more
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 08:09:07 »
um, no offence intended and not meaning to crap on your thread, but I think we don't need to read a list of what anyone can find himself at recycledgoods' website.

especially because none of these are good deals to begin with.

eg Honeywell going for $89, missing key, no cable, untested (aka, in seller's parlance, doa except seller doesn't want to say it outright). DUH, how are we supposed to make that work? I suppose somebody already has another honeywell with the spare parts? and don't tell me that somebody paid $800 for his honeywell, so $89 is a good deal to him to buy another honeywell for spare parts?

Then dont read it then, threads and posts arnt gold dust...but thanks for being civil about it, i thought it was interesting, and that not everyone knew about it, if not perhaps a great deal
The model ms are a good deal at around 30 dollars a pop. I also reckon if you bought say the honeywells in bulk they might offer a large discount.
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Re: 5x IBM spaceunsaver, 16x wyse, 23x honeywell, and much much much more
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 08:19:10 »
because I'm paranoid, I checked the phone number and the address.

Phone number seems to waver between a tire shop and this site, as does the Address, except it wavers between this site and a couple of wood shops. Considering the number of hits I got for this website on both the Phone Number and the address, it seems pretty legit, but I'd like to see someone order from them to check. If it does check out, then I know where to get a Model M!
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Re: 5x IBM spaceunsaver, 16x wyse, 23x honeywell, and much much much more
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 08:26:19 »
I have bought from them, they were OK

If I was more flush right now, I might snag one of those unsaver Fs just because they are so weird, but neither they nor M-122s hold real interest in my world .....
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Re: 5x IBM spaceunsaver, 16x wyse, 23x honeywell, and much much much more
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 16:54:51 »
From my recollection, it was an IRC discussion prompted by me that "invented" the "unsaver" term...this was back in 2010 when I was pursuing suppliers of the things.

The term was intended, yes, for the 104-key buckling spring keyboards that are laid out like a tenkeyless 122. There are also Honeywell-manufactured rubber dome keyboards of the same physical layout. The key thing to note is that when this term was originally coined, it was believed that all keyboards described by this term shared the same AT-like protocol of the 122s, but eventually an older version (identical except for controller) was found that currently is considered unusable. That one has D-subs rather than the DIN connector.

This is the original keyboard that had the term applied to it: http://www.recycledgoods.com/product/7720_ibm_1387033_keyboard-for-ibm-3290-terminal

There's your GH history lesson for the day...

thankyou proffessor kishy :)
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Re: 5x IBM spaceunsaver, 16x wyse, 23x honeywell, and much much much more
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 16:59:54 »

that is the biggest f-ing space-bar!!!
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Re: 5x IBM spaceunsaver, 16x wyse, 23x honeywell, and much much much more
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 17:11:01 »
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that is the biggest f-ing space-bar!!!

Just your normal 10x space-bar.  Doesn't your keyboard have one of them already?

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The Universal 10x GH60 plate is designed to fit this spacebar.