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9/2/2013 Update: Ordering will begin this week.  I've got a lot of work writing up the exact orders and will get the orders in this week so production can begin.

Let the public shaming begin.  I am still waiting on payments or a message from the following users:

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I'm sure BunnyLake has some unpaid as well that need to be publicly shamed, but I'm not sure who they are yet.  If you do not contact me alerting me to circumstances or a date you will pay by, you will be dropped from the group buy on September 1st.

Invoicing has begun.  I don't want this to be a long drawn out group buy, so please try to pay by the 25th of August.  That's not a hard cut off where I'll drop your order if you don't pay by then, but I would like a majority of the orders to be paid by then.  If you can't pay by then, let me know and let me know the reason why.  I will try to work with people if it looks like they need another week to get the money together since I will likely set a hard cut off date of the 1st of September for payment.

Ordering is now closed.  I am trying to get a handful of people to resolve some issues with their orders.  I also need to double check that I have everyone's orders correct. Once that's done, invoices will start to be sent out.  I plan on having invoicing started no later than Friday.

Please double check that your order is correct in the order confirmation form.  Once invoicing starts, no changes will be allowed and we will not take responsibility for any errors since we have asked that you double check they are correct several times.

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This is a non-profit group buy for Qwerkeys UV printed key caps.  This is a relatively new process that Qwerkeys has started that allows for dyesub type caps on any color cap.  For those worried about resilience, they appear to wear well and seem to be very scratch resistant according to several different members who have tried them out.  How long they'll last isn't certain yet, but they do seem to be resilient.  Also worth noting is the fact that Qwerkeys caps are thicker ABS caps that are more akin to GMK caps than the thin Signature Plastics doubleshots.

I will be in charge of U.S./North America/rest of the world invoicing an distribution and BunnyLake has graciously agreed to handle UK and EU invoicing and distribution.

So without further ado:

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If you have any troubles with the form or would like to change an order, contact me.  Since there are so many options for key cap combinations and colors, drop down menus for choosing your caps was the easiest way of doing it for me.  If you would like more sets than there are drop down options, order additional sets in the comments on that page.  Sorry if the causes any confusion or difficulties.  If there are any glaring issues, I will do my best to make the form more easily understood.

Deadline for ordering:  August 1st 

I don't want this to be a long drawn out group buy, so I am making the deadline variable; however, it will not close before the samples are in.  If we hit 500 before the samples are in, it will close 5 days after the samples are posted.  Since each cap in each pack counts toward the cap count (1 arrow cluster or function pack = 4 caps), it will be easy to hit the MOQ. It appears that there were some miscommunications between Dan and I about how the MOQ is calculated that weren't corrected after he saw this thread.  I will be trying to work them out.

Key Caps and Key Cap Colors

The UV printing is done on Qwerkeys J-series caps which are Cherry profile caps.

Each set will be available in two base colors, Black and White.  In addition, the video game packs will be available in two different shades of grey that should approximate Nintendo grey according to Dan at Qwerkeys.  The "Leaf" caps will also be available in Brunswick Green and Magenta.

The colors aren't completely accurate, but here are the cap colors from Qwerkeys:
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The key caps, for the most part will be either in Function/Number Row or Arrow cluster sets.  There are some exceptions that are available in different rows and some that are only available in one row, but most have at least two row options.

These are not the final designs, but should closely represent what the final caps will look like.

MegaMan, Rush, and E Tank:

MegaMan





Rush & E-Tank





Commander Keen:






Pac-Man:

Pac-Man Ghosts





Pac-Man & Cherry





Pac-Man Vulnerable Ghosts





Space Invaders:


Color Space Invaders





B&W Space Invaders





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Group Buy Costs:

Pricing of caps:

50+ =  £2/$3 each
100+ = £1.50/$2.25 each
200+ = £1.20/$1.80 each
500+ = £1.00/$1.50 each

Dan (Sleabo) and I agreed on a £1.00=$1.50 USD rate in advance to simplify things. 

Each cap in a set counts against the MOQ.  So a Commander Keen, Space Invader, MegaMan, and Pac-Man Ghost set in an order would be 16 caps, roughly 33% of the MOQ.  Trying to figure out how Dan calculates the MOQ since there was a miscommunication between my question about it and his answer apparently.

Group Buy Fees:

There will be 15% added to the cost of the caps in the order to cover drop outs, chargebacks, or any other additional fees that may arise in the course of the group buy.  Since this is a non-profit group buy, any money left over from covering incidental costs will be donated to Geek Hack and/or a reputable and worthwhile charity.

There is also a completely optional $1 group buy fee to help compensate BunnyLake and I for our time sorting, checking, and distributing the key caps.  For me, this will be used much like the 15% fee to cover any incidental costs that might spring up and will be donated to a worthwhile charity.   I know BunnyLake has something similar in mind.

Shipping costs:

The initial shipping cost to BunnyLake and I will be distributed evenly across the orders on a cap ordered basis.  For example, if the total shipping is $25 and we hit 250 key caps, $0.10 will be added per key cap.  So an order of 10 caps will have an additional $1 added to it.

Shipping to you will be done via bubble mailer.  BunnyLake and I are not responsible for any lost packages or key caps damaged in transit.  If you want more robust packaging, contact us and we can give you a quote for beefier packaging.

U.S. and International Shipping will be handled by me and UK/EU shipping will be handled by BunnyLake.  Shipping will be based on weight and shipping estimates are based on ordering one of each set.  Larger orders may incur higher shipping prices.  Shipping rate estimates are as follows:

- U.S. shipping: $3-5

- International shipping: $6-9

- UK shipping: £1.50-2.50

- EU shipping: £2.50-5

All PayPal fees are the responsibility of the buyer.

Update 8/6/13:

I got some sample images in today.  Keep in mind that there are still some small things to work out with the caps (such as placement on the cap) and there are colors being used that won't be used for the caps we send off to be made, but these give you a good idea of what the final product will look like.





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Are these OEM or Cherry-profile, sorry if it's been explained in the IC thread.  I'm guessing the former?
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Are these OEM or Cherry-profile, sorry if it's been explained in the IC thread.  I'm guessing the former?

They're done on Qwerkeys J-series caps which are Cherry profile caps.  It wasn't in the IC thread or my post here, so that was a good question.

Editing the OP to include this info.
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Are these OEM or Cherry-profile, sorry if it's been explained in the IC thread.  I'm guessing the former?

This.  Also, do you have any pics of the greys?  I am guessing the lighter is like the original controller, and the dark is like the game cartridges?
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This.  Also, do you have any pics of the greys?  I am guessing the lighter is like the original controller, and the dark is like the game cartridges?

Answered that question in the reply above yours and it's updated in the OP.

Click more under Key Caps and Key Cap Colors to see pictures of the colors.  It's a terrible picture that doesn't look accurate at all, but Dan (Sleabo, the guy who runs Qwerkeys) assured me that they had two colors that matched or closely matched the Nintendo grey colors.  Hopefully I can get him to get some better pics of the two greys so you can see.

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This.  Also, do you have any pics of the greys?  I am guessing the lighter is like the original controller, and the dark is like the game cartridges?

Answered that question in the reply above yours and it's updated in the OP.

Click more under Key Caps and Key Cap Colors to see pictures of the colors.  It's a terrible picture that doesn't look accurate at all, but Dan (Sleabo, the guy who runs Qwerkeys) assured me that they had two colors that matched or closely matched the Nintendo grey colors.  Hopefully I can get him to get some better pics of the two greys so you can see.

That was odd.  Didn't show that there were any other posts when I posted my question.  Oh well, thanks for the quick answer. 

Placing order now  :D
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hmm. 'leafs'. need me some  :))
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ordered some 'leafs' :p

Would multiple "leaf" not be "leaves"?
unless they have some unforeseeable downside (like they're actually made of cream cheese cunningly disguised as ABS)


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ordered some 'leafs' :p

Would multiple "leaf" not be "leaves"?

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Order placed for a white megaman arrow set, and a black megaman Fn-row set.  (Mainly for my own records since I usually forget by the time things are done!)

Thanks for running this, I spent soooo much time playing MegaMan 2 on the original NES.

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Ahh, I forgot to reserve the first post for updates.  So I'll be using this post and/or the third for updates.

And we're already in spitting distance of 100 caps, the first price break after the MOQ.
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Those aren't the actual products but photoshopped to give people an idea, right?

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Those aren't the actual products but photoshopped to give people an idea, right?

Correct.  The final products should look similar, but I can't guarantee that they will be exactly like this since I'm not 100% sure what the printable area is.  The colors should be similar since a base layer will be put down before the color layer in order to try and ensure color accuracy.

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I need to double check my count, but right now we're sitting roughly at 155, just a couple more orders and we'll hit the next price drop.

Dan (Sleabo) is working on getting some better pictures of the greys and some sample caps made for the GB.  Samples ETA is ~2 weeks.
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You know I'm in for some leaves! I really appreciate you putting these on your group buy!
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in the form... does the pacman dots are in the function/number row or arrow cluster ???

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in the form... does the pacman dots are in the function/number row or arrow cluster ???

Sorry if that's not clear.  They're for R1 (function/number row) since Pac-Man is R1 only and the Ghosts are arrow cluster or R1.  If you wanted a different row, we could probably do it as custom for you, it just makes for more work in sorting.
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Because I hate how photographs inaccurately represent small shade differences, and I'm interested in the black on white Space Invaders function row keys: is the Querkeys "white" plastic super bright white?  Or does it have a chance to sort-of match IMSTO's PBT white?
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Because I hate how photographs inaccurately represent small shade differences, and I'm interested in the black on white Space Invaders function row keys: is the Querkeys "white" plastic super bright white?  Or does it have a chance to sort-of match IMSTO's PBT white?

You'd have to ask Sleabo/Dan.  All I can say is that you should never go in trying to match caps across sets, you will always be disappointed that they don't match perfectly.

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in the form... does the pacman dots are in the function/number row or arrow cluster ???

Sorry if that's not clear.  They're for R1 (function/number row) since Pac-Man is R1 only and the Ghosts are arrow cluster.  If you wanted a different row, we could probably do it as custom for you, it just makes for more work in sorting.

ah cool thanks2... i have ordered. number row is exactly what I want... will make a pac-man family on my number 1-9 :D


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why are the "leaves" all r1 keys? is it possible to order a wasd cluster, or an arrow key cluster?

also, forgive me for my ignorance, but which row is r1? r2? r3? r4? i can identify them when i see them, but i don't know what the numbers represent - and i don't know what to google (i tried keyboard rows to no avail :c)
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why are the "leaves" all r1 keys? is it possible to order a wasd cluster, or an arrow key cluster?

also, forgive me for my ignorance, but which row is r1? r2? r3? r4? i can identify them when i see them, but i don't know what the numbers represent - and i don't know what to google (i tried keyboard rows to no avail :c)

They're all R1 because there are already so many other options that it would make it that much more difficult and time consuming to sort and that much more confusing and difficult to make a form.  We have to draw the line somewhere. 

We might do some more custom sets if asked politely and nicely, but I would highly encourage you to hit yes on the optional sorting fee if you do so.

Key cap profiles and row numberinghttp://deskthority.net/wiki/Keyboard_profile#Numbering].  R1 is the function/number row.

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why are the "leaves" all r1 keys? is it possible to order a wasd cluster, or an arrow key cluster?

also, forgive me for my ignorance, but which row is r1? r2? r3? r4? i can identify them when i see them, but i don't know what the numbers represent - and i don't know what to google (i tried keyboard rows to no avail :c)

They're all R1 because there are already so many other options that it would make it that much more difficult and time consuming to sort and that much more confusing and difficult to make a form.  We have to draw the line somewhere. 

We might do some more custom sets if asked politely and nicely, but I would highly encourage you to hit yes on the optional sorting fee if you do so.

Key cap profiles and row numberinghttp://deskthority.net/wiki/Keyboard_profile#Numbering].  R1 is the function/number row.

i'm more than happy to donate more than $1 to you and whoever's organizing the group buy; thanks for doing this.
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Just make sure to put the custom order in the comments/additional orders on the leaf page.

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Just make sure to put the custom order in the comments/additional orders on the leaf page.

Sorry, as a follow up question, what row are the arrow-key clusters? are they considered zxcv, i.e. row 4?
thanks for your patience.
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Sorry, as a follow up question, what row are the arrow-key clusters? are they considered zxcv, i.e. row 4?
thanks for your patience.

They should both be R4.

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put my order in, hopefully all black/function for megaman lol.

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put my order in, hopefully all black/function for megaman lol.

Here's what I have you as ordering:

1x Black MegaMan Function/Number Row

1x Black MegaMan Arrow Cluster

1x Black E Tank Function/Number Row

1x Black E Tank R2 (QWERTY row)

1x Black Rush Function/Number Row

1x Black Rush R4 (Arrow Cluster)

Then I have a note that I'm not sure I understand.  Do you want 3 of each of those sets in black instead of one of each?

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hi,
say if i were to order 20 keys for international shipping, would it still be $6-9?

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hi,
say if i were to order 20 keys for international shipping, would it still be $6-9?

Most likely.  The cheapest international shipping price for me is $6.16+packaging. I might be able to get cheaper through mail.com, but I know I can guarantee that price. When I weighed a full SP 87 key set (which will be lighter than 87 Qwerkeys caps), it was in the weight range for the higher end shipping with a bubble mailer.  I still don't have an average weight for 10 caps, so I can't give exact shipping pricing yet, but 20 caps is light enough that it would be in that range.

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With the sizes of orders this has been getting, we only have 4-5 more orders until we hit the lowest price point.  Right now we're at ~370 orders and I haven't counted the caps I'm going to order in that yet.

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Put my order in.  Awesome!

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I have to double check the numbers, but we should now be over 500 keys.  If that's the case, this GB will be closing 5 days after the samples are in.  At that point, I will try and get a shipping estimate from Qwerkeys so Bunny and I can start invoicing.

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Do you have any pics of how the light and dark grey colored key caps will look? I'm looking to put in my order once I can see how light + dark the greys are.
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Do you have any pics of how the light and dark grey colored key caps will look? I'm looking to put in my order once I can see how light + dark the greys are.

I'm still waiting on them from Dan. Once I have them I'll post them.

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Ordered!

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ordered! i hope my order isn't too confusing!
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ordered! i hope my order isn't too confusing!

Your order makes sense, but these aren't double shots, they're UV printed.  The only way I can make your order is by sampling a cap from the picture (and just about every spot sample will be different) and hoping it's close enough for you.  I'll see what can be done.

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Sorry if that's not clear.  They're for R1 (function/number row) since Pac-Man is R1 only and the Ghosts are arrow cluster or R1.  If you wanted a different row, we could probably do it as custom for you, it just makes for more work in sorting.

Would you be willing to do a bottom row Pacman. I'd like to use him for my C key. I'd be willing to pay a little extra for the sorting.

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Would you be willing to do a bottom row Pacman. I'd like to use him for my C key. I'd be willing to pay a little extra for the sorting.

Specify that you would like an R4 Pac-Man in the additional orders/comments part.

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Thank you.

One more question. Would it be possible to get these done on modifiers? If so what size would they be? Mine are 1x1.25. It would be cool to have the Alt be Pac-Man followed by a pellet, than a cherry, than a pellet leading into the ghost arrow keys.
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I don't know if they could.  To be honest, I really want to stick with the options available right now with as few special order caps as possible.  The simpler this is and the more uniform the cap orders, the harder it is to mess something up in sorting and shipping.

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The Order Confirmation Form is now up.  Please double check your orders and make sure everything is correct.  I have added some comments for some of you that need clarification.