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Shine 3 Spacebar
« on: Thu, 11 July 2013, 11:15:35 »
I have confirmed that Ducky will be using the Snake spacebar on all of the Shine 3s.

I'm considering making some alternative spacebars.  Main goals are 1) keeping it clean / simple 2) continue providing the RGB spacebar LEDs room to 'shine'.

Here are some examples.  If you have a favorite or another idea / suggestion, please post below.

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 11 July 2013, 11:16:20 »
Can we get one that say GH on it?
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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 11 July 2013, 11:16:59 »
A complete Shine 3:

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 11 July 2013, 11:22:01 »
What sized spacebar is that? 6.25?

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 11 July 2013, 11:34:17 »
i really like the bottom one
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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 11 July 2013, 11:35:52 »
i really like the bottom one

Me too and +1 on a GeekHack spacebar as well.  ;D

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 11 July 2013, 11:37:50 »
GH space bar > *

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 11 July 2013, 11:47:11 »
What sized spacebar is that? 6.25?

Standard size.

Each square on the grid is 1/2" so, it's right at about 4 5/8"
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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 11 July 2013, 11:50:39 »
Can we get one that say GH on it?

It depends on minimums.  I will see what I can do.
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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 11 July 2013, 12:07:34 »
Can we get one that say GH on it?

It depends on minimums.  I will see what I can do.

You could always start a group buy for them and I'd be happy to help.

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 11 July 2013, 23:41:34 »
I like the last one as well. I would certainly purchase one if it's reasonably priced (and if I can snag the Shine 3 I want).

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 11 July 2013, 23:52:12 »
GH Spacebar!!! I'm down... The third one is sweet too!
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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 13 July 2013, 01:47:22 »
ditto to all. will these be addon freebies for buying shine 3 on mk.com?|

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 13 July 2013, 06:30:12 »
Stupid question here but for people not liking the spacebar and wanting a different one, how long do you plan on actually using the Ducky OEM key caps?

Or perhaps these are better than previous caps....

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 13 July 2013, 07:17:08 »
Stupid question here but for people not liking the spacebar and wanting a different one, how long do you plan on actually using the Ducky OEM key caps?

Or perhaps these are better than previous caps....

Perhaps longer than you might think.  To get maximum effect from the backlighting, there are sufficiently few sets of replacement keycaps around.

I still have most of the original ones on my Ducky Shine 1.
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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 16 July 2013, 12:38:16 »
I'm considering making some alternative spacebars.  Main goals are 1) keeping it clean / simple 2) continue providing the RGB spacebar LEDs room to 'shine'.
I actually like the MK.com logo one the most -- I might've said the Ducky logo, but I thought rumor had it they were going to be phasing that logo out pretty soon (?).  Thumbs down on the "Shine 3" one, sorry.

Also, are all Shine3/YOTS boards still going to be able to show the spacebar lighting in the board's native LED color, apart from the RGB?
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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 16 July 2013, 16:12:32 »
Stupid question here but for people not liking the spacebar and wanting a different one, how long do you plan on actually using the Ducky OEM key caps?

Or perhaps these are better than previous caps....
You wouldn't even have to replace the entire set -- a blank black ABS spacebar replacement would work just fine.  There might be the slightest color tone / texture difference to someone examining it up close (as I understand it, these OEMs are actually 'translucent ABS' caps with black paint), but I can't imagine it would either feel or appear to be materially different while typing.   

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 17 July 2013, 10:11:00 »
My vote is actually on the Ducky logo.

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 17 July 2013, 11:33:35 »
I like the Mechanicalkeyboards one the best.  I would also like one that is similar to the mechanical keyboard one except just a single light bar across the middle without any logo.  I am getting a zero shine and would consider getting one of these to replace the one on the Zero even though the Zero spacebar looks pretty good to me.  I just prefer a more minimal look and don't like branding visible since I know what brand of keyboard I have.

Here is what I mean.  Just a crude paint edit of one of the OP's images.  I don't know how far apart the LED's are under the spacebar so the width of the light part would maybe need to be wider...not sure:

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 18 July 2013, 15:39:09 »
Thanks for everyone's feedback!

Will update when I hear back from Ducky on what we can do.
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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 18 July 2013, 16:07:56 »
I'd like to see something with a bigger ducky logo


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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 18 July 2013, 16:50:26 »
I'd like to see something with a bigger ducky logo

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that's quite over the top

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« Reply #22 on: Thu, 18 July 2013, 20:24:27 »
I'd like to see something with a bigger ducky logo

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that's quite over the top

On the front, over the top, and probably down teh back too!
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« Reply #23 on: Fri, 19 July 2013, 13:40:22 »
I'd like to see something with a bigger ducky logo

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Is it just me, or does the Ducky logo look like someone from Looney Tunes?

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« Reply #24 on: Fri, 19 July 2013, 14:08:31 »
The logo is the love child of Marvin the Martian and Daffy Duck.
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« Reply #25 on: Fri, 19 July 2013, 14:16:28 »
The logo is the love child of Marvin the Martian and Daffy Duck.


That's actually very believable. ;)

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« Reply #26 on: Mon, 22 July 2013, 17:21:36 »
The logo is the love child of Marvin the Martian and Daffy Duck.


Very observant.
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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 26 July 2013, 08:29:26 »
I think it's a good idea they decided to use the Snake Spacebar, it helps denote the year.  But, it makes the YOTS edition less exclusive.  So, YOTS will only be differentiated by the aluminum chassis and Mandarin characters?  That's not so cool, especially since it will only be White backlit. 

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« Reply #28 on: Fri, 26 July 2013, 08:32:52 »
I think it's a good idea they decided to use the Snake Spacebar, it helps denote the year.  But, it makes the YOTS edition less exclusive.  So, YOTS will only be differentiated by the aluminum chassis and Mandarin characters?  That's not so cool, especially since it will only be White backlit.

They really should have gone with the green back-lighting for the YotS keyboards.  Nothing says snake like green, to me anyway.


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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 26 July 2013, 08:36:14 »
i would be in 100% for a GH spacebar

there was supposed to be a run on pbt spacebars somewhere...didn't happen

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« Reply #30 on: Tue, 30 July 2013, 10:01:06 »
+1 for GH spacebar or the MK logo bar. I don't really like the snake bar. :(
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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 09 August 2013, 11:06:27 »
Ducky decided to add an optional Space bar DAYS before they released the Shine 3.  As such, we have canceled our order of custom space bars.

Between convincing Ducky to make White LED Shine 2s and adding optional spacebars for Shine 3, I think we should be due for some sort of consulting fees soon here...  We keep trying to establish some sort of custom / exclusive MK version with these ideas, and Ducky implements them across the board at the final hour lol.  We're just happy to help :)

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #32 on: Fri, 09 August 2013, 11:39:09 »
Ducky decided to add an optional Space bar DAYS before they released the Shine 3.  As such, we have canceled our order of custom space bars.

Between convincing Ducky to make White LED Shine 2s and adding optional spacebars for Shine 3, I think we should be due for some sort of consulting fees soon here...  We keep trying to establish some sort of custom / exclusive MK version with these ideas, and Ducky implements them across the board at the final hour lol.  We're just happy to help :)

For what it's worth, your designs were much nicer than what Ducky ended up releasing.  The duck head with those two strokes just looks odd to me in terms of a style clash.
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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 09 August 2013, 13:00:40 »
I agree, but it's much more bearable than the Snake and good enough to make producing yet another alternative less practical.

Thanks for the compliment :)

edit: Also, to clarify - I think the Snake is actually kind of cool, but not really 'applicable' for Shine 3s across the board.
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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 09 August 2013, 13:40:05 »
I just got my Ducky Shine 3 and I feel like I'm the only one that actually likes the look of the snake spacebar.

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« Reply #35 on: Fri, 09 August 2013, 13:54:42 »
I just got my Ducky Shine 3 and I feel like I'm the only one that actually likes the look of the snake spacebar.

I don't think anyone dislikes it in principle, but in practice, the snake design allows a lot of light through once you turn on the LEDs, so I would find it distracting.  Especially because it goes over the top and the side of the spacebar.
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« Reply #36 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 03:24:20 »
I just got my Ducky Shine 3 and I feel like I'm the only one that actually likes the look of the snake spacebar.

I don't think anyone dislikes it in principle, but in practice, the snake design allows a lot of light through once you turn on the LEDs, so I would find it distracting.  Especially because it goes over the top and the side of the spacebar.

It is the snake on top of the space bar that would be distracting.  The duck on the front I hardly notice, but across a large portion of the top ... hmmm.
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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #37 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 20:02:16 »
I just got my Ducky Shine 3 and I feel like I'm the only one that actually likes the look of the snake spacebar.

Nope, I left the snake in place as well.  It's not actually that bright, there's just one green LED behind it, same as the keycaps. 

Not really a fan of the red and blue LEDs, not sure why they added those. 

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #38 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 20:12:28 »
I left the snake on mine too. It's growing on me. Took me a bit to figure out how to adjust they spacebar LED colors.
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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #39 on: Sun, 11 August 2013, 09:06:28 »
First thing I did was swap the spacebar, I hate the snake. I don't get the RGB LEDs either, it's pretty hard to get them to match and it seems like they have to be set every time the PC is turned on. Is it possible to get the color setting to stick?

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 11 August 2013, 10:53:02 »
Will MK carry shine keycaps again? I'm looking for a set right now and it feels impossible to find a set.

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 11 August 2013, 11:08:51 »
Will MK carry shine keycaps again? I'm looking for a set right now and it feels impossible to find a set.

We're supposedly first in line for some, but it's been weeks without word and we ask at least once a week.
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« Reply #42 on: Sun, 11 August 2013, 12:50:52 »
First thing I did was swap the spacebar, I hate the snake. I don't get the RGB LEDs either, it's pretty hard to get them to match and it seems like they have to be set every time the PC is turned on. Is it possible to get the color setting to stick?

Have you looked at the manual? This is how you save colors.

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 11 August 2013, 14:01:11 »
First thing I did was swap the spacebar, I hate the snake. I don't get the RGB LEDs either, it's pretty hard to get them to match and it seems like they have to be set every time the PC is turned on. Is it possible to get the color setting to stick?

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I thought I saw that in there... just forgot to refer back to it when I wanted to set the space bar. Thanks for pointing it out again!

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #44 on: Sat, 07 September 2013, 19:24:56 »
I just got my Ducky Shine 3 and I feel like I'm the only one that actually likes the look of the snake spacebar.

I don't think anyone dislikes it in principle, but in practice, the snake design allows a lot of light through once you turn on the LEDs, so I would find it distracting.  Especially because it goes over the top and the side of the spacebar.

you're serious right? i mean seriously? you are complaining about distraction while we are talking about a keyboard named "shine" and legit all about the SHINE, the third generation at that...? like what>

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #45 on: Sat, 07 September 2013, 19:25:33 »
First thing I did was swap the spacebar, I hate the snake. I don't get the RGB LEDs either, it's pretty hard to get them to match and it seems like they have to be set every time the PC is turned on. Is it possible to get the color setting to stick?

ask ducky, or read manual if it's actually explained.

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Re: Shine 3 Spacebar
« Reply #46 on: Sat, 07 September 2013, 19:27:46 »
I just got my Ducky Shine 3 and I feel like I'm the only one that actually likes the look of the snake spacebar.

it's not the look, it's the function. that snake is such a huge deal because it was SUPPOSED to be a YOTS exclusive, and Ducky was kind enough to share that exclusiveness with all early first batch shine3 buyers as a perk, it's a shame most people spat on that kind gesture and toss it away

secondly it has double the amount of reinforcement underneath it comparing to the backup one with ducky logo