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Offline skinnycow

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Testing actual key weighting
« on: Thu, 18 July 2013, 09:42:31 »
Hi, I'm looking for the name of that tool people use to test the key weighting on individual keys. I have several keyboards that are listed as being "all 55g" or "varied weighting 30, 45, and 55 g".

I'd like to test this out. I'm also interested in buying a new mechanical keyboard and I'd like to get the lightest-touch keys possible, but I'd like to verify it for myself instead of relying on the manufacturer's marketing.

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Re: Testing actual key weighting
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 18 July 2013, 09:43:35 »
I think some people use nickels.

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Re: Testing actual key weighting
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 18 July 2013, 09:46:07 »
I think some people use nickels.

1 Nickel = 5g
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Re: Testing actual key weighting
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 18 July 2013, 09:59:02 »
I'd like to get the lightest-touch keys possible,

Yeah, you're gonna be spending a lot of time/money if you're serious about that. A guy got down to 10cn with custom everythings.

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Re: Testing actual key weighting
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 18 July 2013, 10:01:06 »
I'd like to get the lightest-touch keys possible,

Yeah, you're gonna be spending a lot of time/money if you're serious about that. A guy got down to 10cn with custom everythings.

A drafty breeze would actuate that thing. What the actual rhinoceros
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Re: Testing actual key weighting
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 18 July 2013, 10:03:20 »
I'd like to get the lightest-touch keys possible,

Yeah, you're gonna be spending a lot of time/money if you're serious about that. A guy got down to 10cn with custom everythings.

A drafty breeze would actuate that thing. What the actual rhinoceros
Ha, I suppose there's a difference between lightest possible and reasonably light.

Here's the board btw, http://mykeyboard.co.uk/microswitch/

Offline skinnycow

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Re: Testing actual key weighting
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 18 July 2013, 10:27:04 »
that's pretty wild (that microswitch keyboard) - I didn't really have any hardcore project like that in mind.

I've heard cherry blue switches are the best for typing, and maybe clears also if they are as light as the blues but a bit quieter.

The nickels idea is a great suggestion, I should have thought of something like that.

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Re: Testing actual key weighting
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 18 July 2013, 11:14:20 »
that's pretty wild (that microswitch keyboard) - I didn't really have any hardcore project like that in mind.

I've heard cherry blue switches are the best for typing, and maybe clears also if they are as light as the blues but a bit quieter.

The nickels idea is a great suggestion, I should have thought of something like that.

Personally I put blues and clears on completely different levels, perhaps you meant blues and whites?

Offline walterwhite8

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Re: Testing actual key weighting
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 18 July 2013, 12:52:01 »
not sure about the tool for force testing.
but for your 30g/45g/55g there's actually a significant difference. for example the A key and the F key

Offline davkol

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Re: Testing actual key weighting
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 06 August 2013, 10:59:07 »
Hi, I'm looking for the name of that tool people use to test the key weighting on individual keys.

The ghetto tool is called rip-o-meter, and it makes use of the fact that one nickel weights 5 g. However, there are several issues. First, force is measured in Newtons and F=m*g—most people ignore this. Second, it's quite difficult to measure actuation force of most mechanical switches, when it's not equal force required to bottom out, and it doesn't tell you anything about the upstroke.

Precise tools are anything but cheap.

I have several keyboards that are listed as being "all 55g" or "varied weighting 30, 45, and 55 g".

That sounds like Topre or KeyTronic. Search for an old thread about KeyTronic that discusses different ways to measure weighting.

I'm also interested in buying a new mechanical keyboard and I'd like to get the lightest-touch keys possible, but I'd like to verify it for myself instead of relying on the manufacturer's marketing.

Your best bet are either 30g Topre, Cherry MX Red modded with lighter springs (ergo clears or lubed browns may work as well, if you want tactility), or Cherry MY without springs. Goldtouch rubber domes are very light as well.