Clack Therapy

[anoxy]

I just want one clack to be like hey, I got this.

Trust me you will want more.

I thought the same thing 

I hate collecting stuff. I'm somewhat of a minimalist, anti-hoarder. Every geek obsession or hobby I've had in the past (cameras, bikes, high end audio, raw denim, boots, etc.) I've always only kept one or two of the items, and if I wanted to experience something new I'd usually just sell one to fund another.

I only need one keyboard, so naturally only one clack would make sense. Maybe three tops since my FC660M has the inset and delete keys on the far right that would be a neat spot for novelty caps.

[Cottonsox]

How did the recent (Magarita) sales done? I mean is it a dibs ticket but based on what? 420 entries or?

Not sure anyone knows. Just be happy there is alot of action from cc, and people are going to be getting some love when his back is better!!

Carrying GH's hopes and dreams must be hard

[noisyturtle]

Yeah, usually the major holidays. Next sale is usually July 4th, then Halloween. Earth Day is new as far as I know, but April has been a busy month all around, not just for clacks. Yeah, April was a good month

[riotonthebay]

I only need one keyboard, so naturally only one clack would make sense. Maybe three tops since my FC660M has the inset and delete keys on the far right that would be a neat spot for novelty caps.

And then while you're at it, why not go ahead and fill that top row too?

This is how it starts, sir.

[rowdy]

Sounds like ClickClack needs some Clack therapy

Hope you get better soon sir!

[anoxy]

And then while you're at it,

You say that like it's as easy as strolling down the street to clickclack mart and tossin skulls in my cart lol

Securing that many clacks is way too much effort for such little reward.

[riotonthebay]

And then while you're at it,

You say that like it's as easy as strolling down the street to clickclack mart and tossin skulls in my cart lol

Securing that many clacks is way too much effort for such little reward.

You don't have a local skullmart?

[t2russo]

Time:Effort:Money

How do you pay for your clacks?

me? dignity. 

[SpAmRaY]

And then while you're at it,

You say that like it's as easy as strolling down the street to clickclack mart and tossin skulls in my cart lol

Securing that many clacks is way too much effort for such little reward.

You don't have a local skullmart?

Skullmart FTW!

[Dubsgalore]

So the sale today was completely public? or you needed a magical ticket? i'm confused on how it went down because I missed it

Also about ClickClack & back uninjuries... I had a stress fracture in my lower back (L5 vertebrae) (2 years ago) and it took 12 months to heal and it absolutely ruined my high school sports career and brought about some serious depression that I had to push through. Seriously not fun and absolutely horrible chronic pain. I wish you the luck in recovery because a lot of it involves mental attitude and keeping everything positive, which is something I didn't do or focus on at all, and it made things a lot, lot worse.

[pmh1410]

Very longtime i can't get more CC and i never get any disb tickets sale, how can i get more CC ? it's unfair

i must choose 2 solutions: follow or give up >.<

[anoxy]

Give up

[atlas3686]

I was randomly sitting on Spy (I'm not usually) and just about **** myself when 4Grabs popped up. Unfortunately not good news…

Similar reaction when I woke up this morning!

Get well CC, back injuries are no joke.

[naasfu]

Oh duh, it just occurred to me what "Do you blend?" and "Margarita+C-D-M" refers to.  Cinco de Mayo was yesterday.  Margaritas can be blended with ice. 

Mmm... margarita-flavored Clacks.  Oh wow... could these be slushy Clacks in margarita colors?? 

[noisyturtle]

Oh duh, it just occurred to me what "Do you blend?" and "Margarita+C-D-M" refers to.  Cinco de Mayo was yesterday.  Margaritas can be blended with ice. 

Mmm... margarita-flavored Clacks.  Oh wow... could these be slushy Clacks in margarita colors?? 

That's what I was thinking, but what flavors?

Lime/Reg.
Strawberry
and ?

[naasfu]

Oh duh, it just occurred to me what "Do you blend?" and "Margarita+C-D-M" refers to.  Cinco de Mayo was yesterday.  Margaritas can be blended with ice. 

Mmm... margarita-flavored Clacks.  Oh wow... could these be slushy Clacks in margarita colors?? 

That's what I was thinking, but what flavors?

Lime/Reg.
Strawberry
and ?

I want Blue Curacao! 

[Beca]

Oh duh, it just occurred to me what "Do you blend?" and "Margarita+C-D-M" refers to.  Cinco de Mayo was yesterday.  Margaritas can be blended with ice. 

Mmm... margarita-flavored Clacks.  Oh wow... could these be slushy Clacks in margarita colors?? 

That's what I was thinking, but what flavors?

Lime/Reg.
Strawberry
and ?

I want Blue Curacao! 

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i want a mint mojito clack. clear skull with bits of green in it :D

[baldgye]

It's good that I've given up on clack sales. I seem to wake up only to find during the night there has been a 4grabs post and then people chatting in here about some sale they missed that happened 'today'...

But I hope CC gets better nothing worse than a bad back, makes all kinds of things uncomfortable!

[rowdy]

It's good that I've given up on clack sales. I seem to wake up only to find during the night there has been a 4grabs post and then people chatting in here about some sale they missed that happened 'today'...

I get like this all the time )

[baldgye]

It's good that I've given up on clack sales. I seem to wake up only to find during the night there has been a 4grabs post and then people chatting in here about some sale they missed that happened 'today'...

I get like this all the time )

I'm just praying that when he does a proper Miami skull he makes enough of them that I can afford to get one second hand ;_;

[rowdy]

It's good that I've given up on clack sales. I seem to wake up only to find during the night there has been a 4grabs post and then people chatting in here about some sale they missed that happened 'today'...

I get like this all the time )

I'm just praying that when he does a proper Miami skull he makes enough of them that I can afford to get one second hand ;_;

Anything Miami is going to go for silly secondhand prices around here.

[baldgye]

It's good that I've given up on clack sales. I seem to wake up only to find during the night there has been a 4grabs post and then people chatting in here about some sale they missed that happened 'today'...

I get like this all the time )

I'm just praying that when he does a proper Miami skull he makes enough of them that I can afford to get one second hand ;_;

Anything Miami is going to go for silly secondhand prices around here.

Yup! I can't even afford a mintgum skull to go with my WASD/arrow set atm

Lifes a *****

[rowdy]

It's good that I've given up on clack sales. I seem to wake up only to find during the night there has been a 4grabs post and then people chatting in here about some sale they missed that happened 'today'...

I get like this all the time )

I'm just praying that when he does a proper Miami skull he makes enough of them that I can afford to get one second hand ;_;

Anything Miami is going to go for silly secondhand prices around here.

Yup! I can't even afford a mintgum skull to go with my WASD/arrow set atm

Lifes a *****

At the moment I can't even afford a F2 red in Classifieds

[atlas3686]

It's good that I've given up on clack sales. I seem to wake up only to find during the night there has been a 4grabs post and then people chatting in here about some sale they missed that happened 'today'...

I get like this all the time )

I'm just praying that when he does a proper Miami skull he makes enough of them that I can afford to get one second hand ;_;

Anything Miami is going to go for silly secondhand prices around here.

Yup! I can't even afford a mintgum skull to go with my WASD/arrow set atm

Lifes a *****

At the moment I can't even afford a F2 red in Classifieds

I feel you rowdy. 

[rowdy]

It's good that I've given up on clack sales. I seem to wake up only to find during the night there has been a 4grabs post and then people chatting in here about some sale they missed that happened 'today'...

I get like this all the time )

I'm just praying that when he does a proper Miami skull he makes enough of them that I can afford to get one second hand ;_;

Anything Miami is going to go for silly secondhand prices around here.

Yup! I can't even afford a mintgum skull to go with my WASD/arrow set atm

Lifes a *****

At the moment I can't even afford a F2 red in Classifieds

I feel you rowdy. 

I shall mentally insert the word "for" between "feel" and "you", thank you

[atlas3686]

It's good that I've given up on clack sales. I seem to wake up only to find during the night there has been a 4grabs post and then people chatting in here about some sale they missed that happened 'today'...

I get like this all the time )

I'm just praying that when he does a proper Miami skull he makes enough of them that I can afford to get one second hand ;_;

Anything Miami is going to go for silly secondhand prices around here.

Yup! I can't even afford a mintgum skull to go with my WASD/arrow set atm

Lifes a *****

At the moment I can't even afford a F2 red in Classifieds

I feel you rowdy. 

I shall mentally insert the word "for" between "feel" and "you", thank you

haha, the sentiment applies  )

[baldgye]

It's good that I've given up on clack sales. I seem to wake up only to find during the night there has been a 4grabs post and then people chatting in here about some sale they missed that happened 'today'...

I get like this all the time )

I'm just praying that when he does a proper Miami skull he makes enough of them that I can afford to get one second hand ;_;

Anything Miami is going to go for silly secondhand prices around here.

Yup! I can't even afford a mintgum skull to go with my WASD/arrow set atm

Lifes a *****

At the moment I can't even afford a F2 red in Classifieds

I feel you rowdy. 

I shall mentally insert the word "for" between "feel" and "you", thank you

prude!

[Zombly]

I would just like to own one clack, to put it on my board and leave it there forever, however this probably will not happen unless I stab someone for one.

[SpAmRaY]

I would just like to own one clack, to put it on my board and leave it there forever, however this probably will not happen unless I stab someone for one.

But then you want another, then just one more and one more after that OR someone offers piles of $$$ and your eyes get really big and you think of all you could do then before long your like a crack addict needing a fix.

[esoomenona]

I never understood people just wanting ANY one, for the pure sake of it. Owning one doesn't make you cool. Either you like them or you don't. If not, just forget them. There's nothing really special if they're not special to you. And if you think they are, then try to get something you really want. Because just owning one won't make you happy.

[t2russo]

I never understood people just wanting ANY one, for the pure sake of it. Owning one doesn't make you cool. Either you like them or you don't. If not, just forget them. There's nothing really special if they're not special to you. And if you think they are, then try to get something you really want. Because just owning one won't make you happy.

dis. dis guy right here speaks the truth. don't covet.

[atlas3686]

I never understood people just wanting ANY one, for the pure sake of it. Owning one doesn't make you cool. Either you like them or you don't. If not, just forget them. There's nothing really special if they're not special to you. And if you think they are, then try to get something you really want. Because just owning one won't make you happy.

dis. dis guy right here speaks the truth. don't covet.

100% true, it's gotta be one you really like or what's the point.

[exitfire401]

I never understood people just wanting ANY one, for the pure sake of it. Owning one doesn't make you cool. Either you like them or you don't. If not, just forget them. There's nothing really special if they're not special to you. And if you think they are, then try to get something you really want. Because just owning one won't make you happy.

I can answer this because of my current situation with brobots. More people want to trade than to sell. Having one somebody else wants can get you closer to the ones you do really want.

[admiralvorian]

I never understood people just wanting ANY one, for the pure sake of it. Owning one doesn't make you cool. Either you like them or you don't. If not, just forget them. There's nothing really special if they're not special to you. And if you think they are, then try to get something you really want. Because just owning one won't make you happy.

I can answer this because of my current situation with brobots. More people want to trade than to sell. Having one somebody else wants can get you closer to the ones you do really want.

I never understood people just wanting ANY one, for the pure sake of it. Owning one doesn't make you cool. Either you like them or you don't. If not, just forget them. There's nothing really special if they're not special to you. And if you think they are, then try to get something you really want. Because just owning one won't make you happy.

dis. dis guy right here speaks the truth. don't covet.

100% true, it's gotta be one you really like or what's the point.

yeah. I've got a topre steel brobot v2. It doesn't exactly go with my current setup... but I snatched it up when given the chance so that I could trade it for something that DOES match.

[t2russo]

If you are snatching up random colored bros and ccs and expecting to trade your way to the one you want, you are not going to be happy and are now sitting on a non-liquid investment. 

You have to match up with people who then own what you want and don't have what you have. 

I've bought, traded, swapped, etc for my keys, and I can say that only TWICE I've bought something for trade value out of the 20+ transactions.   

Here's the criteria if you have yet to be swayed and still want to participate in this token economy:

1) Don't pay more than in your paypal (or wallet, or whatever) - Don't be in debt for something you want to flip.  Bad juju
2) Don't pay more than it's worth - If you are buying a key to lock it down forever, you can spend a bit more on opportunity cost to avoid missing out.  If you're wishy washy about wanting a key, you'd probably be happier with the cash in your pocket.
3) Know your **** - Mint gum and HOs don't become Mr. Fridays.  Understand the food chain on clacks by reading through old threads, old classifieds, anything you can get your hands on.
4) Make friends - Trading works best if it's between two people who are friendly and want to continue to do business in the future.  People will make more fair deals, and it will open up your network. 

My 2c, take from it what you will.  I'll just be waiting for the black skull that I swapped for this week

[exitfire401]

If you are snatching up random colored bros and ccs and expecting to trade your way to the one you want, you are not going to be happy and are now sitting on a non-liquid investment. 

You have to match up with people who then own what you want and don't have what you have. 

I've bought, traded, swapped, etc for my keys, and I can say that only TWICE I've bought something for trade value out of the 20+ transactions.   

Here's the criteria if you have yet to be swayed and still want to participate in this token economy:

1) Don't pay more than in your paypal (or wallet, or whatever) - Don't be in debt for something you want to flip.  Bad juju
2) Don't pay more than it's worth - If you are buying a key to lock it down forever, you can spend a bit more on opportunity cost to avoid missing out.  If you're wishy washy about wanting a key, you'd probably be happier with the cash in your pocket.
3) Know your **** - Mint gum and HOs don't become Mr. Fridays.  Understand the food chain on clacks by reading through old threads, old classifieds, anything you can get your hands on.
4) Make friends - Trading works best if it's between two people who are friendly and want to continue to do business in the future.  People will make more fair deals, and it will open up your network. 

My 2c, take from it what you will.  I'll just be waiting for the black skull that I swapped for this week

Can't agree more, and I share the same stance. Luckily, I want all of the bros I currently have, and I am only looking to trade for other bros that I want =). I was offered a couple of others in the group that I bought, but turned them down because they were not colors I want and knew that I couldn't trade.

[baldgye]

If you are snatching up random colored bros and ccs and expecting to trade your way to the one you want, you are not going to be happy and are now sitting on a non-liquid investment. 

Not really, my first two clacks were basically the first clacks I could get my hands on and weren't ones I particularly wanted. I traded one for a set of beige Cherry caps back when you couldn't get a nice set for love-nor money (least in my finds). The other I traded for a hack orange CC which was one I wanted.

I don't bother with CC's much other than ones I specifically want these days becasue my priorities have shifted, but it's a pretty fair and decent way to get started from my own experience.

[t2russo]

If you are snatching up random colored bros and ccs and expecting to trade your way to the one you want, you are not going to be happy and are now sitting on a non-liquid investment. 

Not really, my first two clacks were basically the first clacks I could get my hands on and weren't ones I particularly wanted. I traded one for a set of beige Cherry caps back when you couldn't get a nice set for love-nor money (least in my finds). The other I traded for a hack orange CC which was one I wanted.

I don't bother with CC's much other than ones I specifically want these days becasue my priorities have shifted, but it's a pretty fair and decent way to get started from my own experience.

You did read the 4 part breakdown, right?  You have a very specific case where you got lucky on an investment that required the lockup of real money for TOKENS with no intrinsic value that could depreciate at any time.  This day and age on geekhack there is very little money cannot buy.  Remember when people couldn't buy a KMAC 

These aren't gold bars.  Yes you can trade them for caps and they are a currency here in acquiring harder to reach items.  Yes you can even cash these out RELATIVELY easily.  That does not mean the attitude of "if I have the cash, I should turn it into clacks" should be encouraged.

Caps for the sake of having trading pieces is not something that should be encouraged for anyone other than someone financially set and capable of sustaining a burden without having to liquidate hobby supplies.

Jcrouse's sale was a great example of how the clack market really was.  He sold lots of his collection at a high price, but a lot of stuff sat around for a week as it was marked down and eventually blown out. 

This is a high-end hobby that people tend to invest lots of money in.  Just because we've created a weird token economy doesn't mean that it's necessarily smart or sustainable.

[Xowie]

If you are snatching up random colored bros and ccs and expecting to trade your way to the one you want, you are not going to be happy and are now sitting on a non-liquid investment. 

Not really, my first two clacks were basically the first clacks I could get my hands on and weren't ones I particularly wanted. I traded one for a set of beige Cherry caps back when you couldn't get a nice set for love-nor money (least in my finds). The other I traded for a hack orange CC which was one I wanted.

I don't bother with CC's much other than ones I specifically want these days becasue my priorities have shifted, but it's a pretty fair and decent way to get started from my own experience.

You did read the 4 part breakdown, right?  You have a very specific case where you got lucky on an investment that required the lockup of real money for TOKENS with no intrinsic value that could depreciate at any time.  This day and age on geekhack there is very little money cannot buy.  Remember when people couldn't buy a KMAC 

These aren't gold bars.  Yes you can trade them for caps and they are a currency here in acquiring harder to reach items.  Yes you can even cash these out RELATIVELY easily.  That does not mean the attitude of "if I have the cash, I should turn it into clacks" should be encouraged.

Caps for the sake of having trading pieces is not something that should be encouraged for anyone other than someone financially set and capable of sustaining a burden without having to liquidate hobby supplies.

Jcrouse's sale was a great example of how the clack market really was.  He sold lots of his collection at a high price, but a lot of stuff sat around for a week as it was marked down and eventually blown out. 

This is a high-end hobby that people tend to invest lots of money in.  Just because we've created a weird token economy doesn't mean that it's necessarily smart or sustainable.

I agree with you, but I will play devil's advocate.

Even if Clacks crash and the sole reason of buying a Clack was to trade for a clack you wanted more, you are still wouldn't be set back IF your sole reason was to acquire and hold onto the desired cap. Reason being is that if Clack's crashed you can still sell the clack at the crashed price and buy the one you were after at a crashed price. Also you can imagine that 'rarer' clacks might actually be hit harder proportionally in a crash. So it seems that either way you are roughly out by the initial price you paid in, again assuming that your goal is to hold onto the wanted clack forever.

Again, I will state that I agree with you, but depending on situation and goals, it doesn't have to be doom and gloom.

[t2russo]

I wanted to encourage discussion about the elephant in the room of $100+ keys.  I mean no animosity towards anyone about their views on this, I think that spirited debate is something important and helps us cut to the core of important issues.

The case you stated you would unfortunately still be set back, as the investment into the pre-crash price would be lost before you could recoup your investment and make the second purchase.  If the desired clack crashed to below the initial purchase price of your piece, you lost this dealing, since the inflated value of YOUR clack has gone poof, which would still be money in your pocket if you didn't buy the trading piece.

Clacks are useful sometimes at getting what money cannot buy.  I will NEVER deny this, that would just be a foolish statement.  I'm just saying that trading for things isn't all it's cracked up to be, and I know I've ended up purchasing clacks that people thought were surefire trade bait.

[Xowie]

I wanted to encourage discussion about the elephant in the room of $100+ keys.  I mean no animosity towards anyone about their views on this, I think that spirited debate is something important and helps us cut to the core of important issues.

The case you stated you would unfortunately still be set back, as the investment into the pre-crash price would be lost before you could recoup your investment and make the second purchase.  If the desired clack crashed to below the initial purchase price of your piece, you lost this dealing, since the inflated value of YOUR clack has gone poof, which would still be money in your pocket if you didn't buy the trading piece.

Clacks are useful sometimes at getting what money cannot buy.  I will NEVER deny this, that would just be a foolish statement.  I'm just saying that trading for things isn't all it's cracked up to be, and I know I've ended up purchasing clacks that people thought were surefire trade bait.

I completely agree.
Somewhat related is that I have been seriously considering downgrading my (small) clack collection and getting out of the clack game. It is too expensive for a grad student to buy at street prices and clack sales are too competitive and infrequent to rely on. The positive is that I do really like the clacks that I have, so I have no problem sitting on them until a fair trade appears (to hopefully recoup initial cost) or just keeping them if clack prices crash tomorrow.

[eth0s]

I have a fever, and the only cure is moar Clacks.

[noisyturtle]

I won't lie, as much as I hate paying inflated aftermarket prices, they keep the supply and demand for Clacks in the right place. They shouldn't be easy to get, and I've got no skin in the game on the seller side because I don't sell my Clacks. I like the potential for value they have, and the unconformable exactness of rarity which drives up prices. An over saturated market of easily acquirable collectables makes the hunt and kill much less satisfying.

[t2russo]

I won't lie, as much as I hate paying inflated aftermarket prices, they keep the supply and demand for Clacks in the right place. They shouldn't be easy to get, and I've got no skin in the game on the seller side because I don't sell my Clacks. I like the potential for value they have, and the unconformable exactness of rarity which drives up prices. An over saturated market of easily acquirable collectables makes the hunt and kill much less satisfying.

You've also gotten spumoni and a tri-color direct from CC at retail prices.  Would you feel the same if your two iconic clacks had cost you 600+ or never been available for your purchase?  You're in a really unique position, I really do want your input.

[esoomenona]

Who really WANTS to spend money unnecessarily? I'd imagine everyone would like to have their cake and eat it too. Those people who decide they won't pay an inflated price still wishes they could have that rare Clark.

[noisyturtle]

I won't lie, as much as I hate paying inflated aftermarket prices, they keep the supply and demand for Clacks in the right place. They shouldn't be easy to get, and I've got no skin in the game on the seller side because I don't sell my Clacks. I like the potential for value they have, and the unconformable exactness of rarity which drives up prices. An over saturated market of easily acquirable collectables makes the hunt and kill much less satisfying.

You've also gotten spumoni and a tri-color direct from CC at retail prices.  Would you feel the same if your two iconic clacks had cost you 600+ or never been available for your purchase?  You're in a really unique position, I really do want your input.

I felt the same two months ago as I do today, and none of my philosophies about clacks have changed. Maybe I ***** a little less about them

[HoffmanMyster]

I won't lie, as much as I hate paying inflated aftermarket prices, they keep the supply and demand for Clacks in the right place. They shouldn't be easy to get, and I've got no skin in the game on the seller side because I don't sell my Clacks. I like the potential for value they have, and the unconformable exactness of rarity which drives up prices. An over saturated market of easily acquirable collectables makes the hunt and kill much less satisfying.

You've also gotten spumoni and a tri-color direct from CC at retail prices.  Would you feel the same if your two iconic clacks had cost you 600+ or never been available for your purchase?  You're in a really unique position, I really do want your input.

Wow, no need for the attitude.  Just because he's lucky doesn't mean his opinion is worthless.    Whoa guys, I can't read.  Many apologies.  The below still applies, but forgive my blunder.   

I've been a little lucky lately and I'm really thankful, but I feel the same way I do now as I did before when I was clackless.  If you can get a good deal (retail) for a clack that isn't your favourite, it's still a good opportunity to get into the game.  Even if you can't trade it away, you've got a really neat novelty.  And if you can trade it, awesome.  And if you eventually decide it's not for you and you want to get rid of it, you can then sell it away at retail and make someone else's day.

[esoomenona]

Or you can pride yourself on getting Clarks at retail, then turn around and sell them for inflated prices. And then when you get called on it, only trade them for inflated values.

[Sifo]

Or you can pride yourself on getting Clarks at retail, then turn around and sell them for inflated prices. And then when you get called on it, only trade them for inflated values.

[t2russo]

I won't lie, as much as I hate paying inflated aftermarket prices, they keep the supply and demand for Clacks in the right place. They shouldn't be easy to get, and I've got no skin in the game on the seller side because I don't sell my Clacks. I like the potential for value they have, and the unconformable exactness of rarity which drives up prices. An over saturated market of easily acquirable collectables makes the hunt and kill much less satisfying.

You've also gotten spumoni and a tri-color direct from CC at retail prices.  Would you feel the same if your two iconic clacks had cost you 600+ or never been available for your purchase?  You're in a really unique position, I really do want your input.

Wow, no need for the attitude.  Just because he's lucky doesn't mean his opinion is worthless. 

I've been a little lucky lately and I'm really thankful, but I feel the same way I do now as I did before when I was clackless.  If you can get a good deal (retail) for a clack that isn't your favourite, it's still a good opportunity to get into the game.  Even if you can't trade it away, you've got a really neat novelty.  And if you can trade it, awesome.  And if you eventually decide it's not for you and you want to get rid of it, you can then sell it away at retail and make someone else's day.

Homie I said really when I meant it.

NT (when he got his OG tri) and anyone who has been dibs'd has basically been handed money by CC.  The prices they pay to get the key are not reflective of the market value of the item, so by being selected they are capable of making a profit INSTANTLY. 

I genuinely wanted to know why he said he supported the price inflation was important for maintaining rarity when the keys I mentioned were acquired through extraordinary means and can be directly viewed as outliers in the supply chain.  NT hasn't tried to hock them or anything, I'm just curious the opinion of someone who actually owns the pivotal pieces we discuss.