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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #50 on: Mon, 13 January 2014, 06:26:40 »
Hi bpiphany,
Is there a reason you're not offering "toasted and tested" service with the blackpetal?

The simple reason is that I don't have a Rosewill to test them in =P I have the PCB, but it's a pain to test the keys without switches soldered in. And it probably wouldn't be a very good test at all. I could solder switches to the PCB I have I suppose... I'm not sure how big the demand for the Petals is either.

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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 17 January 2014, 19:59:31 »
Hi bpiphany,
Is there a reason you're not offering "toasted and tested" service with the blackpetal?

The simple reason is that I don't have a Rosewill to test them in =P I have the PCB, but it's a pain to test the keys without switches soldered in. And it probably wouldn't be a very good test at all. I could solder switches to the PCB I have I suppose... I'm not sure how big the demand for the Petals is either.

Whats your success rate? Perhaps you could sell me a toasted and partially tested version?

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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 17 January 2014, 22:36:12 »
Hi bpiphany,
Is there a reason you're not offering "toasted and tested" service with the blackpetal?

The simple reason is that I don't have a Rosewill to test them in =P I have the PCB, but it's a pain to test the keys without switches soldered in. And it probably wouldn't be a very good test at all. I could solder switches to the PCB I have I suppose... I'm not sure how big the demand for the Petals is either.

Whats your success rate? Perhaps you could sell me a toasted and partially tested version?

I too may also be interested in something like this.
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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #53 on: Sat, 18 January 2014, 00:54:28 »
Hi bpiphany,
Is there a reason you're not offering "toasted and tested" service with the blackpetal?

The simple reason is that I don't have a Rosewill to test them in =P I have the PCB, but it's a pain to test the keys without switches soldered in. And it probably wouldn't be a very good test at all. I could solder switches to the PCB I have I suppose... I'm not sure how big the demand for the Petals is either.

Whats your success rate? Perhaps you could sell me a toasted and partially tested version?

I too may also be interested in something like this.

Theoretically I suppose I should only need to put 18 switches into the Rosewill circuit board again to test the controllers. Success rate in the oven so far - 100%. I haven't broken anything through heat at least. Though I have, in the good old days of hand soldering, placed resistors incorrectly and such. With just 18 switches I should be able to test all rows and columns. I couldn't test pressing a lot of keys at the same time, but I also don't think that has been a problem if all rows and columns have been working.

I probably should build some Petals. I should have some time on Monday...

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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #54 on: Sat, 18 January 2014, 20:15:49 »
in that case, I'd be ok with you simply making sure that the PC will recognize it, and that a few of the columns work.
If you want to do 18 switches, thats even better, but I'd be ok with less.

Let me know what you think.

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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #55 on: Mon, 20 January 2014, 13:25:15 »
I built 8 petals today, and 6 paws =) The oven is quick, the tiresome part is soldering all the header pins and bending and soldering the reed switch.. I also put 18 switched in the Rosewill PCB. At first I didn't realize it would be a good idea to do all the locks. So I got to use my de-soldering station as well =D I also had to find 3 LEDs to put back in. Anyway all controllers are working fine!

I had a couple of petals I built earlier lying around as well. I've got 11 petals, 11 paws, 6 flakes, 5 hoofs built at the moment. And I'm sitting on components for another 32 controllers. So, orders are as welcome as ever.

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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #56 on: Mon, 20 January 2014, 21:07:24 »
If I weren't exceptionally poor, I would totally go for a black petal right now. Here's hoping you still have stock in 4 months or so.

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« Reply #57 on: Tue, 21 January 2014, 03:26:34 »
I originally ordered 64 of each PCB, since they are a lot cheaper in bulk. The petal, this far, has been the least popular with 5 sold. So the rush shouldn't be imminent.. There are always the option of ordering more PCBs and components. If I don't get completely bored with this keyboard thing, there should always exist a possibility to get one =)

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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #58 on: Thu, 23 January 2014, 21:12:44 »
I sent you a PM for 3 of your toasted black petals.
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« Reply #59 on: Sat, 01 February 2014, 22:25:13 »
Interested in 2 FFs, PM sent.
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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #60 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 23:03:03 »
Interested in 1 or 2 FF, check PM!
 

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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #61 on: Sat, 01 March 2014, 19:58:08 »
bpiph, tried the filco full-sized on the quickfire XT? looks like the same pinout: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u4d82tydc7ldnck/zn8FDf076r

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« Reply #62 on: Sat, 01 March 2014, 20:25:38 »
^^ That would be good to know. I posted some photos of my XT controller and board over here -> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48250.msg1229701#msg1229701

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« Reply #63 on: Sat, 01 March 2014, 20:33:08 »
^^ That would be good to know. I posted some photos of my XT controller and board over here -> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48250.msg1229701#msg1229701

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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #64 on: Sat, 01 March 2014, 20:37:38 »
^^ That would be good to know. I posted some photos of my XT controller and board over here -> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48250.msg1229701#msg1229701

But did you trace the matrix pinouts?

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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #65 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 14:22:53 »
are these still available? I wouldn't mind a Pegasus Hoof

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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #66 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 02:31:36 »
Been on vacation for almost two weeks =)

If anything that XT controller looks like the Rosewill one. A complete trace-out of the main board would be in place to know for sure of course.. And I doubt they didn't make it different just to screw with tinkerers like us =P Looking at this photo I would say that at least the USB lines have been moved making the Black Petal useless..

Also the soldering on that controller :eek:
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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #67 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 16:08:26 »
Hey bpiphany,

I'm interested in a DIY Pegasus Hoof. Are all of these still available?

Also, if I'm going to be de-soldering all of the switches in a Filco anyway, would it just make more sense to build a phantom?

These little guys look like a good intro to some trickier soldering, so I want one in either case. Maybe 2.

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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #68 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 18:08:18 »
Been on vacation for almost two weeks =)

If anything that XT controller looks like the Rosewill one. A complete trace-out of the main board would be in place to know for sure of course.. And I doubt they didn't make it different just to screw with tinkerers like us =P Looking at this photo I would say that at least the USB lines have been moved making the Black Petal useless..

Also the soldering on that controller :eek:
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yes, the soldering is terrible. thankfully, it works quite well. go go electricity.

second, i suspect i know what happened here. everything is shifted over a little bit to accommodate a PCB mount USB A jack. that probably triggered some rerouting and bam, screwed for compat. another thing is that frankly if i were overseeing an ODM design i would make it just different enough from other products from my ODM that i could make sure i was not getting second shifted. this explains quite a bit about why you have had to make so many little pcb designs bpiph.


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« Reply #69 on: Thu, 06 March 2014, 04:03:17 »
Well I think it's just silly. Costar obviously manufactured them all. They could very well have just designed one horseshoe shaped controller to fit on next to all boards. I have a hard time seeing the customer CM, Filco so on caring too much about the actual internals. That would save them a lot of work. The matrix is the same on all of them anyway.

I just toasted a batch of Hoofs and Flakes. Starting to run a bit low on components... I have a stash of each one built now though =)

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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #70 on: Thu, 06 March 2014, 04:20:09 »
PM sent. I wouldn't mind a toasted Hoof, please.

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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #71 on: Thu, 06 March 2014, 06:50:30 »
Looking forward to receiving my Pegasus Hoof!!   Has anyone tried the Hoof with this:


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« Reply #72 on: Thu, 06 March 2014, 20:04:21 »
Yaa I can't wait for my FF :D
 

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« Reply #73 on: Thu, 06 March 2014, 22:46:06 »
If it ever gets retooled to work with the Quickfire XT, I'd be interested in one... I too figured "it was probably just a RK-9000 controller with a larger socket" but it sounds like it isn't :(
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« Reply #74 on: Fri, 07 March 2014, 01:14:55 »
If it ever gets retooled to work with the Quickfire XT, I'd be interested in one... I too figured "it was probably just a RK-9000 controller with a larger socket" but it sounds like it isn't :(

My guess is that they are the exact same footprint. The Filco TKL and the QFR are the exact same other than the pin layout is different. The pins you'd guess overlaps on them do so.

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« Reply #75 on: Fri, 07 March 2014, 02:07:00 »
Owning three QF XT's I'd be happily buying 4 controllers if you decide to make them :)
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« Reply #76 on: Sun, 16 March 2014, 11:11:21 »
Very interesting. If I ever buy an CMQFR it will have an frosty flake in it.
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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #77 on: Mon, 17 March 2014, 00:30:53 »
Looking forward to receiving my Pegasus Hoof!!   Has anyone tried the Hoof with this:


http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0

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« Reply #78 on: Mon, 17 March 2014, 00:43:18 »
Well I think it's just silly. Costar obviously manufactured them all. They could very well have just designed one horseshoe shaped controller to fit on next to all boards. I have a hard time seeing the customer CM, Filco so on caring too much about the actual internals. That would save them a lot of work. The matrix is the same on all of them anyway.

I just toasted a batch of Hoofs and Flakes. Starting to run a bit low on components... I have a stash of each one built now though =)
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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #79 on: Thu, 10 April 2014, 14:25:05 »
Could you make a Keycool 84 controller?

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« Reply #80 on: Thu, 10 April 2014, 14:30:05 »
Could you make a Keycool 84 controller?

Does it have a removable controller daughterboard? If so, can you trace the matrix, like bpiphany did here?
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« Reply #81 on: Thu, 10 April 2014, 18:51:33 »
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« Reply #82 on: Sun, 13 April 2014, 13:08:20 »
Are there any keyboards using that Apple Core?

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« Reply #83 on: Sun, 13 April 2014, 15:00:27 »
Are there any keyboards using that Apple Core?

Nope, and it isn't really a "costar replacement" controller either. I just didn't think/know where to put it when you asked for the component values.. How did the soldering go?

My idea was that it would be a useful thing for small scale prototype designs. Being able to get one assembled and put into your main board and have support for a ton of columns and rows.. I or anyone else never made anything to fit it into. Which isn't too surprising since there aren't any to get...

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« Reply #84 on: Sun, 13 April 2014, 19:11:17 »
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Re: Replacement controllers
« Reply #85 on: Sat, 10 May 2014, 22:41:58 »
By any chance, can Frosty Flake work with the CM Quickfire Rapid I ?

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« Reply #86 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 05:20:39 »
By any chance, can Frosty Flake work with the CM Quickfire Rapid I ?

Not even remotely likely, I'd have to say. There's a lot of silly LED lighting on that one.. I don't remember if it was that model, but one of them had the controller circuits all attached to the main board. I guess there's need for a lot of extra room to handle all the LEDs.

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« Reply #87 on: Tue, 10 June 2014, 13:47:59 »
It is my pleasure to announce the availability of a new Costar Replacement Controller: "The Ghost Squid". It is tailored to fit the CM Storm QuickFire XT line of keyboards and will allow you to take total control over your typing needs.

"The Ghost Squid" is the latest addition to bpiphany's line of 8x18 matrix controllers for Costar keyboards and will be available for purchase as a kit or fully assembled here (OP) or here shortly.

Bpiphany is The Man -- thanks a lot for making these (and the other controllers of course ;)) !

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« Reply #88 on: Tue, 10 June 2014, 14:15:51 »
Sweet...now I can mod my XT :D

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« Reply #89 on: Tue, 10 June 2014, 14:19:13 »
Cool.  I love new boards

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« Reply #90 on: Tue, 10 June 2014, 17:32:23 »
Thanks Bpiphany and Grendel.  I'm hoping you can do the CM Quick Fire Rapid-I next :)

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« Reply #91 on: Tue, 10 June 2014, 19:21:30 »
Thanks bpiphany for the Frosty Flake. It's working well in my new QFR :)

Thanks Bpiphany and Grendel.  I'm hoping you can do the CM Quick Fire Rapid-I next :)

If I recall, the Rapid-I uses a 32-bit ARM controller, at least for the LED management. I am not sure if the ARM controller is also tied into the keyboard matrix. I haven't seen any teardowns of the Rapid-I, but is its controller removable like on the QFR?

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« Reply #92 on: Tue, 10 June 2014, 20:32:32 »
The AVRs that bpiphany uses really aren't up to the task without additional ICs and some very clever programming.

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« Reply #93 on: Wed, 11 June 2014, 22:42:18 »
Stop it!  Between the Ghost Squid and bargain-priced Tai Hao caps, you're wrecking my devotion to my ALPS boards!
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« Reply #94 on: Thu, 12 June 2014, 06:08:31 »
Hello,

Can I get a ghost squid please? DIY kit.

Can you email me your paypal please and I will get it sorted? Would need to be posted to the UK, would that be alright?

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« Reply #95 on: Sun, 15 June 2014, 00:16:57 »
Got my Ghost Squid today.  It's much more cleanly built than the Costar controller module :/
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« Reply #96 on: Thu, 19 June 2014, 14:14:42 »
Got my Kitten Paw yesterday! It brought my dead Filco Ninja back to life!

My 1st shipment somehow got lost in the mail, but Fredrik (bpiphany) was very kind and sent me another one *with* tracking for FREE!

Great product, great service, A+.  :thumb:

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« Reply #97 on: Thu, 19 June 2014, 15:35:55 »
Got my Kitten Paw yesterday! It brought my dead Filco Ninja back to life!

My 1st shipment somehow got lost in the mail, but Fredrik (bpiphany) was very kind and sent me another one *with* tracking for FREE!

Great product, great service, A+.  :thumb:

Same thing happened to me, and bpiphany was similarly generous in fixing it.  To my surprise, the original "lost" package showed up 6 weeks after the second, replacement package!

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« Reply #98 on: Thu, 19 June 2014, 16:34:01 »
Yea, the ISC seems to be a hit and miss when it comes to processing mail -- my first two flakes seemed to be lost after 4 weeks in transit, and bpiphany sent out replacements w/ tracking -- I could see them stuck for weeks in the ISC. A few days before delivery the 1st set showed up (by then I got another QFR so I just payed for all 4 ;D ) After that I got a Black Petal in less than a week (not registered) and two shipments of squids, also w/in less than a week (registered) !
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« Reply #99 on: Thu, 19 June 2014, 16:55:42 »
Bizarre... I waited 6 weeks after my first controller shipped to request another, and the second one (with tracking) took 6 days to make it from Sweden to Texas. Maybe the original one will show up some day.

metalliqaz, what did you do with your extra?