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Offline Phillip_J_Fry

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New IBM Model M - Is it real to find?
« on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 05:12:52 »
Hello Everyone!

Is it real to find new (not used) IBM Model M?
If yes - where and how much does it cost?

Thanks!
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Re: New IBM Model M - Is it real to find?
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 05:20:50 »
They do turn up from time to time, usually on eBay.

Have a look through recent posts about Model M - sorry I can't find it now - there was a discussion about new SSK (which is the TKL Model M) availability and prices.

There was also a discussion about how vendors had to keep a certain number of IBM parts are FRU, and how after the systems they were replacing went out of service the FRU parts just languished in warehouses all around the country (and world?) because people had simply forgotten about them.  Every now and again someone finds a stash of old NIB FRU parts.
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Re: New IBM Model M - Is it real to find?
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 06:52:33 »
They usually sell for stupid amounts of money on eBay. Unless you're into the collecting game, you're better off buying a Unicomp.
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« Reply #3 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 07:01:43 »
Not that stupid.  I can't find the thread atm, but NIB SSKs were selling for $150 to $200 recently.
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Re: New IBM Model M - Is it real to find?
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 07:13:06 »
I saw Model M for about $70 or is it fake?
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Re: New IBM Model M - Is it real to find?
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 07:14:03 »
Quote from: Phillip_J_Fry on Sat, 10 August 2013, 07:13:06
I saw Model M for about $70 or is it fake?

Could be real, although condition would be average.

I got my two for $31.
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Re: New IBM Model M - Is it real to find?
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 07:15:17 »
Quote from: Phillip_J_Fry on Sat, 10 August 2013, 07:13:06
I saw Model M for about $70 or is it fake?

You can easily get a Model M off of ebay and/or from the classifieds on here for less than that.
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Re: New IBM Model M - Is it real to find?
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 07:15:58 »
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sat, 10 August 2013, 07:15:17
Quote from: Phillip_J_Fry on Sat, 10 August 2013, 07:13:06
I saw Model M for about $70 or is it fake?

You can easily get a Model M off of ebay and/or from the classifieds on here for less than that.

New or Used?
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Re: New IBM Model M - Is it real to find?
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 07:17:24 »
Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 10 August 2013, 07:01:43
Not that stupid.  I can't find the thread atm, but NIB SSKs were selling for $150 to $200 recently.

Are you sure? I saw even used ones for more...
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Re: New IBM Model M - Is it real to find?
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 07:18:56 »
Quote from: snoopy on Sat, 10 August 2013, 07:17:24
Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 10 August 2013, 07:01:43
Not that stupid.  I can't find the thread atm, but NIB SSKs were selling for $150 to $200 recently.

Are you sure? I saw even used ones for more...

I think it was like one popped up and either was gone really quick (buy it now) and/or no one noticed (auction).
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Re: New IBM Model M - Is it real to find?
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 09:50:39 »
Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 10 August 2013, 07:01:43
Not that stupid.  I can't find the thread atm, but NIB SSKs were selling for $150 to $200 recently.

New In Box? I don't think so. Seems like the most recent one was about $375 and there was debate about whether it was actually new.
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Re: New IBM Model M - Is it real to find?
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 09:53:56 »
People get obsessed with virgins. In some cases, it might be worth it.

The good thing about ancient IBM iron is that it can be easily taken completely apart and totally cleaned, repaired, or upgraded without touching a soldering iron.
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"However, even though I was born in the Mesozoic, I do know what anyone who wants to reach out to young people should say: Billionaires took your money. They took your chance to buy a home. They took your chance at a good education. They stole your opportunities. Billionaires took the things you want in life. If you really want those things, you have to take them back.
That's the message. That's the whole message. Say that every day, not just to reach America's frustrated young white men, but people of every age, race, and gender.
Late-stage capitalism is a wealth-concentration engine, focused on vacuuming up every dollar and putting it in as few hands as possible. Republicans are helping that vacuum suck.
How does a tiny fraction of the population get away with this? They do it by dividing the other 99% of Americans against themselves."
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Re: New IBM Model M - Is it real to find?
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 13:53:24 »
Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 10 August 2013, 09:50:39
Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 10 August 2013, 07:01:43
Not that stupid.  I can't find the thread atm, but NIB SSKs were selling for $150 to $200 recently.

New In Box? I don't think so. Seems like the most recent one was about $375 and there was debate about whether it was actually new.


QFT and correctness.

Was $375 and a lot of sniping going on about whether or not it was NIB. Either way, people pay absolutely stupid amounts for SSKs. SSKs primarily sold as part of orders, which means actual price paid brand new from IBM delivered would be far, far below $100.
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Re: New IBM Model M - Is it real to find?
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 14:57:38 »
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Re: New IBM Model M - Is it real to find?
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 18:13:51 »
Quote from: Game Theory on Sat, 10 August 2013, 14:57:38
http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/categories.main/parentcat/9231

Ooooh, UltraNavs.
Those are literally Thinkpad keyboards with a bottom case and cable. No other modifications. TrackPoint IV in them, too.
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Re: New IBM Model M - Is it real to find?
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 11 August 2013, 07:23:20 »
I have some new in the box IBM Model M's...The only catch is that they are Danish ISO layout. See my blog post about it...

http://www.loiph.in/2013/07/brand-new-ibm-model-m-danishnorwegian.html

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