Which Keyboard? And What differences between Cherry Blacks and Membrane

[distincthd]

Membrane vs Cherry MX Black Mechanical key switches
I'm choosing between keeping my own cheapo membrane keybord and choosing the CM Storm Trigger with Cherry MX black key switches. The Quickfire TK with brown key switches and the Corsair Vengeance K60 with Red key switches are both also on the table.

The main question I had was what is the physical difference between membrane and the cherry mx black switches (I mean how they feel). I already know Blacks are linear and require 40g to 80g of actuation force to activate the keys. I mean like how much force is required for membrane keyboards compared to blacks and how big of a difference would it be?

[yasuo]

black more stiffer to me

[distincthd]

Stiffer than membranes? D:

[yasuo]

Stiffer than membranes? D:

What membrane? membrane like PCB in mechanical keyboard
you mean rubber dome!
yes to me black stiffer than RD but RD stiffer than red mx
RD you must to press to bottoming out to release point,
but black quite half before bottoming out (key travel 2mm) but it caused me a lot typo with blacks )

[distincthd]

So you believe i should ditch the blacks and go with the reds instead?

[ch_123]

An average rubber dome keyboard is about 60-65g. Blacks actuate (i.e. the key is registered) at 60g. If you train yourself to only press them as far as is required to actuate them, then they are no more tiring than a rubber dome keyboard. If you press them down fully, the peak force is about 80g, and you'll tire your hands out big time. You'll probably find that if you move from rubber domes to Blacks, you'll spend some time mashing them down fully, but you'll probably learn to not press them too far just by continued regular use.

In terms of feel - given that they are linear, there's no tactile bump, but they are a lot smoother. While I prefer tactile switches myself, I have found Blacks to be pleasant enough to type on. Whether or not you'll prefer the Reds depends on how light of a switch you like. Reds have certain disadvantages - they're easier to accidentally press (although this is something that you get used to) and they're easy to bottom out on (again, something you can get used to, but may be a problem if you like pressing your keys with a lot of force), which can make them noisy and may potentially be tiring to your hands*. YMMV

* Note that these disadvantages are things I've observed from key switches that are light and/or easy to bottom out. I've not spent enough time on a Red-switch keyboard to confirm that they are exactly the same, but I have heard people who have say similar things.

[Obakemono]

Well, if you want a better typing experience, yes, you should switch your rubber dime for a mechanical keyboard.

But the only way to find your switch is to try, at lest a couple of them to have some references.

We can try to explain how different switches feels, you can make your own impressions out of what you read but in the end it's not gonna be nothing like the real world, you might end loving some switch you were convinced it's going to be awful and never ever again want to touch some you thought would be heaven.

[distincthd]

Thank you for that ch_123, it's still an even battle for me between the Corsair Vengeance K60 and the CM Storm Trigger (the former having reds and the latter having blacks). Is the difference in 15g that much though? I mean it doesn't seem like much when you look at it as a number but then again i may be wrong. On that note about bottoming them out with 80g, I will quickly adapt to it so thats why i believe its still even to me. I think i'll just ditch the quickfire tk with brown switches and just choose between these two.

[distincthd]

Obakemono thats what i'd like to do but I like gambling on items and whether or not its good or bad, you get what you get and that's final

Edit: But that does not mean i would take the risk of buying a mech keyboard that is harder to press and more annoying than rubber dome keyboards

[distincthd]

So from what i've gathered. Reds and Blacks are basically the same except that one offers more resistance than the other (being the blacks). Wouldn't this make it easier to double tap though with the higher resistance? Maybe even triple tap? because you're less likely to bottom out. I would be playing "Osu!" and "League of Legends" (and of course other games but these are the main two I will play). So i would say that for Osu!, Cherry MX Reds would be better but for League of Legends, black would be better due to it being a lot more slow paced hmm.

[ch_123]

Thank you for that ch_123, it's still an even battle for me between the Corsair Vengeance K60 and the CM Storm Trigger (the former having reds and the latter having blacks). Is the difference in 15g that much though? I mean it doesn't seem like much when you look at it as a number but then again i may be wrong. On that note about bottoming them out with 80g, I will quickly adapt to it so thats why i believe its still even to me. I think i'll just ditch the quickfire tk with brown switches and just choose between these two.

You'd definitely notice the difference. While the numbers sound small, it's perhaps more useful to think of it in terms of the Blacks being 33% stiffer than the Reds. It's quite a big jump.

I don't play a lot of video games any more, so I can't really advise you on how suitable they are in that regard. If I were to choose between reds and blacks, I'd pick the blacks because they feel more substantial thanks to the extra stiffness, but again, this is personal preference and may not be what you want for gaming.

[distincthd]

Okay I think i'll either buy the reds or save up for the CM Storm Trigger Browns. You can't go wrong with the browns you see . The blacks seem pretty nice but i think i'll pass on them due to your knowledge ch_123