Author Topic: Looking for lightest touch keys  (Read 2756 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline vreetech

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 2
Looking for lightest touch keys
« on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 09:15:50 »
Hey. I was wondering what are the lightest touch / shallowest travel keys around? I’m in the market as I’ve been doing a lot of typing as of late and my current “Generico Crapio £10 from Amazoneo” is really annoying me. I prefer a really light touch and low travel distance (even finger touch weight would be ideal). I’ve tried a few different keyboards in the past inc mechs (Red, Blue & Brown) but am not a fan. Also been looking into all sorts of keyboards and researching switch types myself but there’s no substitute for asking people in the know. Any recommendations?

Cheers

Offline CPTBadAss

  • Woke up like this
  • Posts: 14391
    • Tactile Zine
Re: Looking for lightest touch keys
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 09:23:30 »
There's a 30g Topre available. That's all I can think of for super light actuation, easily obtainable boards.

Offline pixel5

  • Posts: 308
  • Location: Texas
    • pixel5
Re: Looking for lightest touch keys
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 09:24:39 »
Reds are pretty darn light... the only thing I can recommend to you is thin air...aka, a touch screen.
Poker II

Quickfire Rapid
BUY MY CRAP

Offline Tarzan

  • formerly known as Greystoke
  • * Maker
  • Posts: 1304
  • Location: US: Virginia
Re: Looking for lightest touch keys
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 09:30:02 »
There's also the uber-light switch mod you can do on Cherry G81-7000 keyboards.  Removing one of the two springs makes it super light actuation, The_Ed has some modded keyboards for sale.

Yes, these are MY switches, not MX, but the spring-ectomy also removes the "typing on a dead octopus" feeling.  Like MX Blacks with 25Mn springs.

(Just don't do what I did, and grease the switches...   :'(  )

Offline terrpn

  • Alpha Geezer
  • * Exquisite Elder
  • Posts: 993
  • Location: MD/VA
  • - Buy Vintage -
Re: Looking for lightest touch keys
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 13:17:27 »
There's also the uber-light switch mod you can do on Cherry G81-7000 keyboards.  Removing one of the two springs makes it super light actuation, The_Ed has some modded keyboards for sale.

Yes, these are MY switches, not MX, but the spring-ectomy also removes the "typing on a dead octopus" feeling.  Like MX Blacks with 25Mn springs.

(Just don't do what I did, and grease the switches...   :'(  )

you gotta link?



More

Luga G80-1865/MX Reds + Dolch G80-1813/MX Blues + G80-3700HQAUS + DK9008G2 Pro/MX Browns Thick PBT + DK9008G2 Pro/MX Clears Thick PBT +  QFR TKL/Ghetto Greens + Cherry G80-1800/MX Blues + IBM Model M SSK Bolt Modded + IBM Model M + IBM Model F + IBM AT F + Cherry G80-1000 (HAD)/MX Vintage Blacks + Razer BWU/MX Blues + Leading Edge DC2214/Blue Alps + Compaq MX11800/Browns + Chicony 5181/Monterey Blues + Chicony 5161/MX Black Cherry Clone + Focus 2001/White Alps + Chicony 5191/White Futabas + Olivetti ANK27-101 + Dell (Old Logo) AT101/Black Alps + NMB RT8255C+/Black Space Invaders + Unitek K260/Green Alps + Apple M0116/Orange Alps + AEK II M3501/Cream Alps + AEK M0115/Orange Alps + NEC  APC412/Blue Sliders + NEC APC410/Blue Sliders + Omnikey /White Alps + Wang/Yellow Alps (Omrons) + Laser/White SMK + Fame/Blue Aruz + AEK II M3501/Salmon Alps + Zenith ZKB-2R/Green Alps + Wang 724/Orange Alps + DK1087/Green Alps + Zenith ZKB-2/Yellow Alps + Dell Old Logo AT101/Salmon-Pink Alps + Leading Edge AK1012/White SMK's + Magitronic SK-1030/White (Linear) Futaba's + Packard Bell/White (Clicky) Futaba's + Datacomp DFK101/White  Alps + SGI AT101/Dampened White Alps + NMB AQ6RT-72511/Grey Space Invaders (Hi-Tek) + Datacomp/Blue Alps + Phillips 2812/White Space Invaders (Linear) + Dah Yang K251/Vintage MX Blues + Chicony 5161/DS Caps/Vintage MX Blue + Archie-NMB AQ659ZRT-725/Black Space Invader (Tactile) + IBM Model M 71G4644 (RD) Bolt Modded with Soarers Converter + IBM Model M Silver Label 1390131 + Cherry G80-1501/Vintage MX Clears + Focus FK8000/Linear Futabas + Gateway 2000 Anykey Programmable/Maxi-Switch + Dell GY13PVAT101/Dye Sub Caps/Salmon Alps + Chicony 5161/White Alps + AST K0B101/Slider over RD + Qtronix QX-32H + Everex/NMB RT8255CW+ Black Space Invaders-Split Erase + Tandon/NMB AQ659ZRT-101A/Beige Space Invaders + Cherry G80-11903 MNRUS/MX Blacks + Apple IIGS A9M0330/SMK Whites + WYSE PCE/MX Blacks + Chicony 5160AXT/Clicky Futaba + Cherry G80-0528/Vintage MX Blacks + Dell AT101/Linear (Modded) Black Alps+Topre 55g

Offline Tarzan

  • formerly known as Greystoke
  • * Maker
  • Posts: 1304
  • Location: US: Virginia
Re: Looking for lightest touch keys
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 14:10:15 »
There's also the uber-light switch mod you can do on Cherry G81-7000 keyboards.  Removing one of the two springs makes it super light actuation, The_Ed has some modded keyboards for sale.

Yes, these are MY switches, not MX, but the spring-ectomy also removes the "typing on a dead octopus" feeling.  Like MX Blacks with 25Mn springs.

(Just don't do what I did, and grease the switches...   :'(  )

you gotta link?

I don't know if he has a current ad in the Classifieds, but you can reach him via PM, just reference the MY switch keyboards. 

Offline Findecanor

  • Posts: 5088
  • Location: Koriko
Re: Looking for lightest touch keys
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 14:51:03 »
Note that these are actually full-travel keyboards, but each key will actuate half-way down the stroke.
🍉

Offline Tarzan

  • formerly known as Greystoke
  • * Maker
  • Posts: 1304
  • Location: US: Virginia
Re: Looking for lightest touch keys
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 14:52:57 »
Note that these are actually full-travel keyboards, but each key will actuate half-way down the stroke.

That's a good point.  If the requirement for short key travel is more important, it might be worth checking out one of those little Cherry G84 boards.  They bottom out pretty hard, though, and the actuation force is relatively high, IIRC.

Offline hoggy

  • * Ergonomics Moderator
  • Posts: 1502
  • Location: Isle of Man
Re: Looking for lightest touch keys
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 14:58:18 »
Comfort do a keyboard with 20g activation - but the ergonomics are shot. 


http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47272.0

For even lighter keys - take a look at

http://mykeyboard.co.uk/
GH Ergonomic Guide (in progress)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54680.0

Offline uzoc

  • Posts: 210
Re: Looking for lightest touch keys
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 15:12:36 »
Hey. I was wondering what are the lightest touch / shallowest travel keys around? I’m in the market as I’ve been doing a lot of typing as of late and my current “Generico Crapio £10 from Amazoneo” is really annoying me. I prefer a really light touch and low travel distance (even finger touch weight would be ideal). I’ve tried a few different keyboards in the past inc mechs (Red, Blue & Brown) but am not a fan. Also been looking into all sorts of keyboards and researching switch types myself but there’s no substitute for asking people in the know. Any recommendations?

Cheers

That's the same question I had, and the answer for me was "not in the mechanical keyboard world".
But I just re-capped? my Razor Tournament with Cherry G81 keycaps.
I found out that that the shorter stems of the G81 keycaps provide (or seem to provide) quieter and shorter travel (I added rubber 0-rings also, so that helps).
If you like or want shorter travel and light touch you might like my everyday typer, the Microsoft Arc. They have them on EBay for $15 used.
Short review: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47874.msg1024459#msg1024459

   
 

Offline vreetech

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 2
Re: Looking for lightest touch keys
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 10 September 2013, 05:19:45 »
Thanks for the reply's so far, really helpful! I've been lurking for a while but didn't want to post in fear of asking what maybe silly questions (at least to more experienced people).
 
Comfort do a keyboard with 20g activation - but the ergonomics are shot. 

Show Image

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47272.0

For even lighter keys - take a look at
Show Image

http://mykeyboard.co.uk/

The comfort board looks... yer. 20g activation and a short throw is good but that setup and the ergonomics I may have to pass. I think the other one is out of my league but defiantly an interesting read :)

while it might be blasphemy to some people on this forum, I am thinking that perhaps you should consider a chiclet.

that's low, silent, tactile, inexpensive, compact.

I don't like mechanical keyboard just because of the noise they makes, although I like the touch and the response of the keys. I also think the keys are very high. Also, I like compact keyboards, like the HHKB2, and not the tenkeyless keyboards.

With all that characteristics, I was thinking to change to a scissor switch keyboards.
Is there any keyboard that can be silent, with the keys not very high, compact, with reasonable price and have good response to touch like the   Cherry MX brown or blue?

I agree with berserkfan, I have not been able to find anything more quiet, less key travel and ergonomic (very little for my taste, just a little curve) keyboards than membrane type, and cheapest (of course). My all day user is the Microsoft Arc: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/arc-keyboard/J5D-00001
The only drawback for me is the small arrow keys (in a single key no less) and hard to see greyed out lettering for both the black and white versions (but that's an easy fix just buy yellow large keyboard stickers $5 on EBay and done).

(Attachment Link)

The ark looks good. Anything with a low activation force and a short throw is what im after. Are there any "laptop" style keyboard about? I know Logitech do a lot of scissor keyboards but they have a longer stroke than a typical laptop (3.2mm instead of 2mm or whatever). Thanks very much for everything so far again!