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Offline czarek

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G80-2500 HAU/02
« on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 07:32:01 »
Just received this. I wanted to try Vintage Blacks and this keyboard sports them. They are indeed silky smooth, much better than modern Blacks or Reds. Have a nice weight to them (although the MX Grey under space bar is a bit too heavy for me).
I was quite amazed with most of the keycaps being double shot, and the Polish Typewriter keys being dye sublimated... Nice and unique hybrid in my opinion.
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35733-0
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:39:01 »
Very nice find, I've never seen one with this Polish layout before.
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:46:09 »
Looks really nice. Can't wait to delve into the vintage sector.
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:48:23 »
That is a NICE keyboard!  Some really interesting keycaps, and thick Cherry double-shots?  Wow!

Can I ask how much it cost you? 
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 10:04:04 »
Wow thats an awesome keyboard! I love the legends.

Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 17 September 2013, 09:39:01
Very nice find, I've never seen one with this Polish layout before.

I was wondering what layout this was...

Makes it even cooler cause my grandfather is polish!
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 10:08:13 »
A Polish Cherry! Nice find man!
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 10:41:16 »
It's actually made in West Germany, not Polish ;)
I bought it relatively cheap, around 40 euros, and one more (G80-1000) coming soon.
Vintage Blacks are amazing, I tried them with DSA PBT caps for Ergodox and I was stunned. It felt better than anything I ever tried, the closest thing that comes to my mind is linear NMB switches from Amiga keyboards, but those had slightly shorter key travel. I'm totally considering making my ErgoDox with those switches and omitting the plate to have this feel.
The only thing that may prevent me from doing that is the fact that when I use linear switches I sometimes stop and check if the key really actuated. This never happens with tactile and clicky switches.
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 11:21:27 »
Watch the screen, something happened? Yes, then the key actuated. :p
Type on linear for a while and maybe you will get the feel of where it actuate and don't have to worry about missed press or bottoming to 'be sure'.
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 12:01:29 »
wow............that's a batteship

good find :thumb:

i love the old boards- thanks for sharing
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 18 September 2013, 11:27:22 »
To be honest it is bug and looks decent but it's built like crap. Plastic feels cheap, there is no plate (apart from the function keys on top) and everything is very light. I was used to terminal keyboards weighting tonnes, I had IBM Model F Terminal and I still have IBM Model M Terminal and those keyboards do feel quality. This definitely doesn't. Apart from awesome switches and very nice and unique keycaps, there is nothing about this keyboard to like. I'm going to salvage the switches to possibly use in ergodox and keycaps will probably go for sale ;)
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 18 September 2013, 11:53:52 »
If you don't like it, I think it would be better to sell it as is. It's certainly one for the collectors.
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 18 September 2013, 11:59:49 »
that's really, really badass ^_^
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 18 September 2013, 12:58:14 »
**** that is awesome looking. so clean!

congrats. now tell us where you found it!
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 18 September 2013, 13:18:02 »
Wow, 40 euro's for a G80-5000HAU is an awesome price.  Even with Polish layout.  And I agree that vintage blacks are definitely better than modern blacks.  Great job finding that keyboard!
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 18 September 2013, 14:05:26 »
Oh well, I'm happy to pass it over to any collector interested in it. I'll just salvage switches because I love them. I have no interest in keycaps and the rest of the keyboard. I can let it go for the half of what I paid so 20 euros + shipping :)
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 18 September 2013, 19:12:46 »
Quote from: czarek on Wed, 18 September 2013, 14:05:26
Oh well, I'm happy to pass it over to any collector interested in it. I'll just salvage switches because I love them. I have no interest in keycaps and the rest of the keyboard. I can let it go for the half of what I paid so 20 euros + shipping :)

Dude!  I'll send you 1225 vintage blacks and €20 plus shipping! Please don't desolder the keyboard!   :eek:

 
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 19 September 2013, 02:32:55 »
Well the thing is I already started doing it and desoldered 25 switches (starting from the left. I can put them back, no problem.
I'm always careful when working with electronics and there are absolutely no cracks or scratches on neither the case or PCB, it will be hard to notice the difference.
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 19 September 2013, 09:28:11 »
Quote from: czarek on Thu, 19 September 2013, 02:32:55
Well the thing is I already started doing it and desoldered 25 switches (starting from the left. I can put them back, no problem.
I'm always careful when working with electronics and there are absolutely no cracks or scratches on neither the case or PCB, it will be hard to notice the difference.

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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 14 October 2013, 09:57:04 »
I've just bought a keyboard just like this one. I'm wondering which protocol it speaks...
Anybody has a clue? It doesn't work on my PC, I tried connecting 5V according to the PS/2 standard and then IBM terminal pinout, and it draws 100mA. I'm afraid to set the limit higher, I'm sure it doesn't need that much, so I must be powering it wrong.
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 14 October 2013, 10:35:26 »
They've got another one on allegro.pl, a bit more expensive this time though.
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 14 October 2013, 11:07:07 »
Quote from: czarek on Mon, 14 October 2013, 10:35:26
They've got another one on allegro.pl, a bit more expensive this time though.

Yes, and also this weirdo: http://allegro.pl/cherry-nowa-klawiatura-nr-2-i3614936969.html
It seems mine was bricked or I bricked it trying to power it up. Anyway, the vintage blacks and some doubleshots will find a new home.
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 14 October 2013, 11:54:26 »
Not that weird, it looks very close to the DEK LK201 layout keyboards. It might have mx blacks.
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 14 October 2013, 12:01:26 »
I hoped the 2500 is AT... like it's 255X brothers. I spent many hours this weekend bending diodes and placing them inside switches so I can restore it. I got it all finished soldering in the switches. I powered it and here comes the stink! I should have known better when I saw the controller chip. I have only seen that one used on serial keyboard like my 0499, 0879. :(
So for now I have another useless antifunctional keyboard. I really need to wrap my head around how to do controller replacements better.
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Re: G80-2500 HAU/02
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 11:48:35 »
Quote from: komar007 on Mon, 14 October 2013, 11:07:07
Quote from: czarek on Mon, 14 October 2013, 10:35:26
They've got another one on allegro.pl, a bit more expensive this time though.

Yes, and also this weirdo: http://allegro.pl/cherry-nowa-klawiatura-nr-2-i3614936969.html
It seems mine was bricked or I bricked it trying to power it up. Anyway, the vintage blacks and some doubleshots will find a new home.

Yeah I've got this one too. Posted pictures on geekhack. It's DEC Alpha keyboard layout. Indeed vintage MX Black switches. My unit (same model, from the same seller) is made in Marz 1990, in West Germany :)
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