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Offline Xtract

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Help me please
« on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 21:00:50 »
Hello guys, my birthday is in the 23rd this month and i want to get a mechanical keyboard for my birthday, i live in Israel so i can't get anything i want but there are are a few good keyboards.. by the way i want the red switches since i read a lot about all the switches and i found that the red are better for gaming for a few reasons, another reason i want the red switches is that the blue switches (tried it) can't do half a click you can't put the button half way a few times, i don't really know how to explain that, also i tried the brown switches and i really hated them i tried them on the Logitech g710+ and it just felt like a cheap keyboard and not comfortable at all.
So the keyboards with red switches that are good and that i am able to get in Israel are:
http://www.cmstorm.com/en/products/keyboards/quickfirerapidred/
http://www.cmstorm.com/en/products/keyboards/quickfiretk/
http://www.zowiegear.com/index.php?i=product&p=2

Tell me which one do you think i should get and why.

I want to mention that if you will recommend me a switch that is not Cherry MX red i will consider it, the reason i looked for MX red is that its the best switches that i know for gaming, also i want to mention that i never used the red switches but i will be able to switch it into another keyboard if needed.

I want to mention that the numpad for me is not something important but its nice to have if it doesn't take any space (its a little bonus at the QuickFire TK)

Also i want to know what kind of mods can i do for the keyboard that i will buy, i know only about 2 kind of mods, the O-rings and painting the keyboard, if there are more like that it would be nice to know and i might do them, another thing is someone could send me a link for a place that i can order some O-rings that are good for the mod it would be very helpful.

I really appreciate every comment,

*PS forgot to mention that i play most of the time FPS games ( some times i play other kinds of games but its really for FPS )


**Edit: does the red switches bad for writing or just not as good as the blues? because i will not buy another keyboard i want to know if i can write with that normally..
« Last Edit: Sat, 21 September 2013, 05:51:50 by Xtract »

Offline terran5992

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Re: Help me please
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 22:09:08 »
Get the quickfire rapid.

Good and reliable board, Cant go wrong with it

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Re: Help me please
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 01:22:47 »
There is no "best switch for gaming".  Just lots of different switches that might give you a different advantage under different gaming circumstances.

The QFR is a good solid board.  I have one with MX blacks and it is fantastic!
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Re: Help me please
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 01:25:37 »
I've used the Zowie board for a bit and it's really good, very solid. It had MX Browns. And like rowdy said, there is no "best" switch for gaming, whatever is best for you is usually the best. I found the Browns to be very comfortable for both gaming and typing. If you do a lot of typing I'd personally go with Browns, but that's just me.
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Re: Help me please
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 04:56:18 »
Out of the boards that you listed here, I would go for the QuickFireRapid Red in all honesty.

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Offline Xtract

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Re: Help me please
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 05:47:52 »
What's the difference between the Rapid and the TK?
also you didn't answered to some other questions that i asked like the modding and the O-ring (what kind of O-ring should i buy)
by the way the price differences between the Rapid and the TK in the stores here is something like 25$ and remember that i get that for a gift so shouldn't i ask for the TK?
But i really don't know tell me why you recommended the Rapid please..

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Re: Help me please
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 07:47:34 »
What's the difference between the Rapid and the TK?
also you didn't answered to some other questions that i asked like the modding and the O-ring (what kind of O-ring should i buy)
by the way the price differences between the Rapid and the TK in the stores here is something like 25$ and remember that i get that for a gift so shouldn't i ask for the TK?
But i really don't know tell me why you recommended the Rapid please..

The layout is the biggest difference.  TK has numpad, QFR has arrow keys and 6 cluster.  If you really need the numeric keypad, get the TK, otherwise if you prefer the conventional arrow keys and home/end/insert/etc. cluster then get the QFR.  You can always get a separate numeric keypad later on if you need one.

O-rings will slightly dampen the sound from bottoming out (when the key hits the bottom of the stroke), and also reduce the travel distance slightly.  I tried a couple of O-rings on a keyboard with MX blues, and I was not too impressed.  An alternative is to learn to type without bottoming out.

The reset point for MX blues is above the activation point, so after the key registers you have to let it up further than the point where it registered if you want to press it again.  This causes problems for some people trying to double-tap in games (although I did not experience any problems).

You can paint the case - there are lots of threads about that since the recent competition (see the first few sub-forums linked from the main page).

You can also replace the keycaps - this is probably the first things most people do with CM keyboards as the font used in the legends is not to everyone's liking.

Other mods could include making a fixed cable (the QFR, at least, has a removable cable that some people do not like).  CM sell replacement case tops, so you can experiment with different types of decoration.  Doing anything to the switches is awkward as they are plate-mounted, which means you have to desolder the switches to open them (if you wanted to swap springs, for example).
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Offline Xtract

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Re: Help me please
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 08:03:39 »
Thank you for your comment, its not that i really need the numpad but i use it from time to time and i can get used to the regular numbers but in the TK there are more features like lights and stuff like that, no?
« Last Edit: Sat, 21 September 2013, 11:02:59 by Xtract »

Offline Xtract

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Re: Help me please
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 12:21:30 »
I think that the Zowie is off the table and i also there are 3 new options, the Corsair vengeance K60 K90 and K95 (i might won't be able to buy them but i want to see what you guys think about them compared to the Rapid/TK and maybe i will be able to get them after all..)

So what do you guys recommend now for me to get?
« Last Edit: Sat, 21 September 2013, 12:45:29 by Xtract »

Offline bazemk1979

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Re: Help me please
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 14:36:28 »
Get the quickfire rapid.

Good and reliable board, Cant go wrong with it
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Offline Xtract

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Re: Help me please
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 22 September 2013, 05:24:00 »
Guys do you mind explain why to choose what over the other instead saying why some a is a good board?

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« Reply #11 on: Sun, 22 September 2013, 05:30:32 »
The QFR is generally a very reliable board.  Back when, there was a problem with a batch that had a fault left Alt, but CM acknowledged the problem, replaced the faulty keyboards and prevented the fault.  Problems with QFR since then are few and far between.

QFR has standard key layout, so sourcing replacement keycaps is simple.  It is also TKL, so a TKL set will suffice, usually cheaper than a full set.

CM also sell case tops separately, and they are the subject of a case customisation competition at the moment (see the GH front page).

QFR is available in a variety of switches, including MX green.

I have a QFR and it has performed faultlessly since I have had it.  In fact I just switched back to it at work because I was missing its MX black switches.
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