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Offline Emospence

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Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« on: Mon, 30 September 2013, 02:46:55 »
What differences are there between these mice other than shape?

For curiosity's sake :)
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Offline mauri

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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 13:21:26 »
Sidebuttons )) Apart from that they're practically the same sensorwise, I'd assume anyway, given the relatively weird dpi configuration

E: also ambidexterity
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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 20:04:32 »
What about scroll wheel and button feel?
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Offline davkol

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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 13:07:18 »
FWIW, all of them ought to have the same stiff Huano button switches and rather soft, rubbery wheel with a lighter switch.
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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 13:37:12 »
Quote from: davkol on Thu, 03 October 2013, 13:07:18
FWIW, all of them ought to have the same stiff Huano button switches and rather soft, rubbery wheel with a lighter switch.

By soft you must mean mushy with a ****ty feedback while skipping notches
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Offline davkol

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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 14:28:55 »
Quote from: mauri on Thu, 03 October 2013, 13:37:12
Quote from: davkol on Thu, 03 October 2013, 13:07:18
FWIW, all of them ought to have the same stiff Huano button switches and rather soft, rubbery wheel with a lighter switch.

By soft you must mean mushy with a ****ty feedback while skipping notches

The switch is the same as in some other mouses, e.g. old Genius NetScroll Optical. It just requires less force than Huano. For me, it was a big surprise that the wheel was actually lighter than the primary buttons.

If you mean scrolling steps, I actually like the scrolling action as well, although it could be smoother.
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Offline mauri

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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 14:49:08 »
Quote from: davkol on Thu, 03 October 2013, 14:28:55
Quote from: mauri on Thu, 03 October 2013, 13:37:12
Quote from: davkol on Thu, 03 October 2013, 13:07:18
FWIW, all of them ought to have the same stiff Huano button switches and rather soft, rubbery wheel with a lighter switch.

By soft you must mean mushy with a ****ty feedback while skipping notches

The switch is the same as in some other mouses, e.g. old Genius NetScroll Optical. It just requires less force than Huano. For me, it was a big surprise that the wheel was actually lighter than the primary buttons.

If you mean scrolling steps, I actually like the scrolling action as well, although it could be smoother.

The scroll has a "blind spot" it doesn't register or give a tactile bump, say one of every 5 notches/steps , surely it can't be a faulty product, I'm on my 2nd or 3rd ec 2 of which the first I RMA'd
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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 15:49:00 »
I haven't encountered such issue so far. Currently using a MiCO, which has the same wheel IIRC.
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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 19:09:31 »
Quote from: mauri on Thu, 03 October 2013, 14:49:08
The scroll has a "blind spot" it doesn't register or give a tactile bump, say one of every 5 notches/steps , surely it can't be a faulty product, I'm on my 2nd or 3rd ec 2 of which the first I RMA'd

Damn mauri, that doesn't sound good.  I've got the EC1 eVo coming in and I'll hate to get another useless DA2013 wannabe.  It seems like they all conspire to make cheap/crappy rodents for gamers now.
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Offline Emospence

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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 20:16:39 »
Apparently this issue is evident on the ECs, and to a lesser extent AM. It's the way the scroll wheel was implemented into the mold
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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 21:12:18 »
Quote from: Emospence on Thu, 03 October 2013, 20:16:39
Apparently this issue is evident on the ECs, and to a lesser extent AM. It's the way the scroll wheel was implemented into the mold

If that's true, then why buy an EC1 or EC2 then?  I wish I could do a call back with Paypal on my purchase for the EC1 eVo.  It looks like another wasted amount of money thrown onto the rodent-crap pile, yet again  >:( .
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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 23:40:50 »
Quote from: Elrick on Thu, 03 October 2013, 21:12:18
If that's true, then why buy an EC1 or EC2 then?  I wish I could do a call back with Paypal on my purchase for the EC1 eVo.  It looks like another wasted amount of money thrown onto the rodent-crap pile, yet again  >:( .

I'm sure there's people out there who don't notice this problem at all. You might be one of them  ;D

If so, please let me know because I'm considering an EC1 eVo as well.
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Offline mauri

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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 04 October 2013, 01:47:04 »
Quote from: Elrick on Thu, 03 October 2013, 21:12:18
Quote from: Emospence on Thu, 03 October 2013, 20:16:39
Apparently this issue is evident on the ECs, and to a lesser extent AM. It's the way the scroll wheel was implemented into the mold

If that's true, then why buy an EC1 or EC2 then?  I wish I could do a call back with Paypal on my purchase for the EC1 eVo.  It looks like another wasted amount of money thrown onto the rodent-crap pile, yet again  >:( .

Don't get me love, I love the ec, the scroll wheel isn't an issue if you don't use it to do precise actions and you do sorta get used to it.
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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 09 October 2013, 20:56:45 »
Which is better, AM or FK?

Which one is smaller and lighter?
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Offline Emospence

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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 09 October 2013, 21:17:47 »
Quote from: SNF on Wed, 09 October 2013, 20:56:45
Which is better, AM or FK?

Which one is smaller and lighter?

Probably the FK?
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Offline Skull_Angel

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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 10 October 2013, 09:24:23 »
I've heard people say the the FK is easier to pick up than the AM, ymmv.
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Offline SNF

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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 11 October 2013, 22:47:01 »
hmmmm, I would pick up a zowie instantly but my WMO is so reliable...

only reason I want a new mouse is for the side buttons :/
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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 12 October 2013, 00:40:52 »
Just got my ec1 evo. Haven't been able to make it skip notches or feedback
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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 12 October 2013, 09:22:31 »
Quote from: Emospence on Sat, 12 October 2013, 00:40:52
Just got my ec1 evo. Haven't been able to make it skip notches or feedback

Most say it happens if you scroll down starting from the front of the wheel; the top mold wasn't designed properly so the wheel tends to lift, causing the issue.
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Offline Emospence

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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 12 October 2013, 11:39:57 »
Quote from: Skull_Angel on Sat, 12 October 2013, 09:22:31
Most say it happens if you scroll down starting from the front of the wheel; the top mold wasn't designed properly so the wheel tends to lift, causing the issue.

It could feel more solid but nope, not skipping wherever I scroll from. :/
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Re: Zowie FK, AM, EC1/EC2 eVo
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 19 October 2013, 00:03:02 »
Quote from: Emospence on Sat, 12 October 2013, 11:39:57
It could feel more solid but nope, not skipping wherever I scroll from. :/

For sure the scroll wheel could be more like ROCCAT's which is the current world-class leading scroller currently made in the world.  Shame you can't transplant the ROCCAT scroll wheel mechanism into the body of a EC1 eVo.

I think it would become the BEST mouse ever made thus far.  But that's the essence of stuff being made now, they always fail to get 100% perfection otherwise why would you upgrade if the current mouse was perfect?
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