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Offline saturnotaku

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Re: Ducky is absolute garbage.
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 07:00:56 »
Generally yes, but not all.

It all depends on what you're comparing. A Bentley is higher quality than a Hyundai, but a Mercedes-Benz is not necessarily higher quality than an Acura.

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Re: Ducky is absolute garbage.
« Reply #51 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 07:01:37 »
Hmm. I didn't really notice that on my Shine II.
But then again you'll be changing keycaps anyways :D PBT's ftw
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Re: Ducky is absolute garbage.
« Reply #52 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 07:24:05 »
good pointing out. I was myself getting more than a little puzzled by the fact he bought 3 duckys.

not to praise Razer or anything, but if something sells 10x as much volume as Ducky and gets 15x as many complaints, then Razer is only 1.5x as bad as a ducky. Methinks Ducky is overrated. It's not 2x, 3x, 5x as good as Razers and lower end keyboards. It's more like 1.5, 1.6x as good only. So don't expect Duckys to be perfect or anything. You get better quality for your money, not perfect or near-perfect quality.

You have 10 posts. 9 of those are you complaining about duckys you've bought.

My question is :
If you're so displeased with their quality then why do you keep buying them?

Literally your first post was you complaining about the first ducky you bought. If you weren't happy then why would you buy a second?

You then made posts complaining about the second ducky you bought once it arrived. IF YOU WEREN'T HAPPY WITH EITHER OF THEM THEN WHY WOULD YOU BUY A THIRD ONE?
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Re: Ducky is absolute garbage.
« Reply #53 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 07:44:07 »
Hmm. Not a very nice nor an objective title  :(

I have seen batches and batches of Duckys and overall quality has been very good. Very clean soldering, good firmwares, lotsa functions on boards without any kind of software install. Ducky Shine-series are manufactured in Taiwan.

Sorry to hear ur keycaps have some spatter on them. I think if ud just send those pics to overclockers.co.uk they will send u replacement caps. Might take a while but its not like the original caps are unusable meanwhile. I think it would require as much effort to write email about replacements than to write this kind of post on forums.

About the other keyboards where u also have some concearns:

- Mushy backspace or space bar - Pls lube the stabilizers. Its a common practise and you can improve the larger keys feel. This is not a brand specific issue.

- "Light keypress, inconsistent click across most keys" - Hmm, u were talking about the MX blue switch here. Its not the keyboard PCB, chassis, controller or keycaps or the build that can make this kind of inconsistency happen. That would mean the inconsistency would be in the switch itself. Cherry supplies the switches in big boxes. I dont think any brand has assembly lines that have personnel or a robot clicking every switch with weights and reading accurate results before mounting it. There is some level of trust towards Cherry ofc altho the switch feel across different Cherry production batches have been said by some to be having minor discrepansies as well. The keyboards are tested across so that every key functions after its been built. This testing doesnt guarantee 100% flawless coming in mail to every home as they then travel by air/sea/trucks thru countries and hubs/distys/resellers before they reach you. Thats a lotta box tossing at many stages.

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Re: Ducky is absolute garbage.
« Reply #54 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 11:31:02 »
Hmm. Not a very nice nor an objective title  :(

I have seen batches and batches of Duckys and overall quality has been very good. Very clean soldering, good firmwares, lotsa functions on boards without any kind of software install. Ducky Shine-series are manufactured in Taiwan.

Sorry to hear ur keycaps have some spatter on them. I think if ud just send those pics to overclockers.co.uk they will send u replacement caps. Might take a while but its not like the original caps are unusable meanwhile. I think it would require as much effort to write email about replacements than to write this kind of post on forums.

About the other keyboards where u also have some concearns:

- Mushy backspace or space bar - Pls lube the stabilizers. Its a common practise and you can improve the larger keys feel. This is not a brand specific issue.

- "Light keypress, inconsistent click across most keys" - Hmm, u were talking about the MX blue switch here. Its not the keyboard PCB, chassis, controller or keycaps or the build that can make this kind of inconsistency happen. That would mean the inconsistency would be in the switch itself. Cherry supplies the switches in big boxes. I dont think any brand has assembly lines that have personnel or a robot clicking every switch with weights and reading accurate results before mounting it. There is some level of trust towards Cherry ofc altho the switch feel across different Cherry production batches have been said by some to be having minor discrepansies as well. The keyboards are tested across so that every key functions after its been built. This testing doesnt guarantee 100% flawless coming in mail to every home as they then travel by air/sea/trucks thru countries and hubs/distys/resellers before they reach you. Thats a lotta box tossing at many stages.


Hi Ducky Nordic

After experiencing three keyboards having these air bubble/space bar issues i thought i would at least share my experience since three Duckys is a good amount to own.

I may just have had a run of very bad luck with the air bubbles and space bars feeling inconsistant, but out of the box brand new i would sorta think the space bar shoudnt be this mushy/hard on my Shine 3, the space bar will also get stuck sometimes.  The space bar is the main reason why the keyboard is unusable and needs to be returned.

Is it required to open the keyboard to lube the stabilizers?       

I understand the inconsistency is at the switches level, but some batches of MX Blues feel too horrible to accept.  My Shine 2 Chinese version with MX Blues has some of the worst feeling MX Blues and it really ruins the experience of typing on them, for that reason its sitting in the closet until i have time to replace all 108 switches.




Mine is fine. You got a lemon... Is it only the keys that your not liking or overall construction?

Its mainly the keys and different feeling spacebars.  I'll try to list all the issues i've had in a bit more detail.

- DK9087 Shine 2 MX Red Red Led - Had several keys with air bubbles on it along with a small crack in the alt key.  Mechanicalkeyboards.com send replacements for this and its all good now.

- DK9008 Shine 2 MX Blue Red Led - Had again several keys with air bubbles and a few with scratches on them, Mechanicalkeyboards.com sent replacements for it also and its perfect now. - this is my favorite one since the space bar is smooth and the MX Blues are crisp.

- DK9008 Shine 3 MX Blue Red Led - More keys with air bubbles this time, along with a spacebar thats ultra mushy, and gets stuck sometimes.  The capslock key also gets stuck for some reason.

- DK9008 Shine 2 MX Blue Red Led/CHN - Inconsistent clicking MX Blues, very loud awkward spacebar.  I still never fixed this one, but it doesnt matter since it just sits in the closet now at this point.

The main thing i dont like is that the spacebars feel different even on the same model keyboard, and it completely ruins the flow when typing.                 

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Re: Ducky is absolute garbage.
« Reply #55 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 11:58:00 »
My ducky G2pro has been working excelently for the time that I have used it, but it's not backlit and has pbt caps so
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Re: Ducky is absolute garbage.
« Reply #56 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 12:01:10 »
Is there a way to exchange the keyboard for another one?


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Re: Ducky is absolute garbage.
« Reply #57 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 14:03:03 »
@ itzmeluigi

If the spacebar gets stuck on bottom that is indeed a problem. That cant be fixed by lubing. Either the top chassis is not 100% on place and spacebar gets stuck at edge of chassis or it has a faulty stabilizer.
The louder noise spacebar on CHN model. Did you check its not MX Green beneath spacebar? Ducky has done batches where spacebar has the stiffer brother switch under space.

I personally have about 20 Duckies and havent got a single one with noticable airbubbles on caps. You definately have some bad luck :D

Your not in my region (im in Europe and ISO-layout zone) but be i in ANSI zone id definately send u a full replacement keycap set so u could replace the bubbled ones on the boards u have.
Maybe if u can write to Ducky support and reference this thread conversation they can ask a Ducky US partner to send u a full 104 key replacement keycap set. If you dont get a reply within couple days then please copy/paste your sent email to me in private message and ill push it for u.


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Re: Ducky is absolute garbage.
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 14:43:51 »
@ itzmeluigi

If the spacebar gets stuck on bottom that is indeed a problem. That cant be fixed by lubing. Either the top chassis is not 100% on place and spacebar gets stuck at edge of chassis or it has a faulty stabilizer.
The louder noise spacebar on CHN model. Did you check its not MX Green beneath spacebar? Ducky has done batches where spacebar has the stiffer brother switch under space.

I personally have about 20 Duckies and havent got a single one with noticable airbubbles on caps. You definately have some bad luck :D

Your not in my region (im in Europe and ISO-layout zone) but be i in ANSI zone id definately send u a full replacement keycap set so u could replace the bubbled ones on the boards u have.
Maybe if u can write to Ducky support and reference this thread conversation they can ask a Ducky US partner to send u a full 104 key replacement keycap set. If you dont get a reply within couple days then please copy/paste your sent email to me in private message and ill push it for u.

I checked all the switches on my space bar, all my Duckys use MX Blues under the space bars.  I bought my Shine 3 from Overclockers.co.uk specifically so i could convert from ANSI to ISO :) ,  my Shine 3 is in ISO layout and the rest of my Shine 2s are ANSI.  If you could help me i would utmost appreciate it, as Ducky direct email support hasn't gotten back to me in over a month from past emails.  I think the stabilizer on the Ducky Shine 3 might be defective or something though.
 

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Re: Ducky is absolute garbage.
« Reply #59 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 15:57:33 »
I've actually had that problem before.

Take the spacebar off and put it back on again. Turn it (and the little white stabilizer thingies) 180 degrees, and watch the magic.

This is how I fixed that problem on (one of) my MJ2s.
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Re: Ducky is absolute garbage.
« Reply #60 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 16:12:32 »
Hmm. Not a very nice nor an objective title  :(

I have seen batches and batches of Duckys and overall quality has been very good. Very clean soldering, good firmwares, lotsa functions on boards without any kind of software install. Ducky Shine-series are manufactured in Taiwan.

Sorry to hear ur keycaps have some spatter on them. I think if ud just send those pics to overclockers.co.uk they will send u replacement caps. Might take a while but its not like the original caps are unusable meanwhile. I think it would require as much effort to write email about replacements than to write this kind of post on forums.

About the other keyboards where u also have some concearns:

- Mushy backspace or space bar - Pls lube the stabilizers. Its a common practise and you can improve the larger keys feel. This is not a brand specific issue.

- "Light keypress, inconsistent click across most keys" - Hmm, u were talking about the MX blue switch here. Its not the keyboard PCB, chassis, controller or keycaps or the build that can make this kind of inconsistency happen. That would mean the inconsistency would be in the switch itself. Cherry supplies the switches in big boxes. I dont think any brand has assembly lines that have personnel or a robot clicking every switch with weights and reading accurate results before mounting it. There is some level of trust towards Cherry ofc altho the switch feel across different Cherry production batches have been said by some to be having minor discrepansies as well. The keyboards are tested across so that every key functions after its been built. This testing doesnt guarantee 100% flawless coming in mail to every home as they then travel by air/sea/trucks thru countries and hubs/distys/resellers before they reach you. Thats a lotta box tossing at many stages.


Hi Ducky Nordic

After experiencing three keyboards having these air bubble/space bar issues i thought i would at least share my experience since three Duckys is a good amount to own.

I may just have had a run of very bad luck with the air bubbles and space bars feeling inconsistant, but out of the box brand new i would sorta think the space bar shoudnt be this mushy/hard on my Shine 3, the space bar will also get stuck sometimes.  The space bar is the main reason why the keyboard is unusable and needs to be returned.

Is it required to open the keyboard to lube the stabilizers?       

I understand the inconsistency is at the switches level, but some batches of MX Blues feel too horrible to accept.  My Shine 2 Chinese version with MX Blues has some of the worst feeling MX Blues and it really ruins the experience of typing on them, for that reason its sitting in the closet until i have time to replace all 108 switches.




Mine is fine. You got a lemon... Is it only the keys that your not liking or overall construction?

Its mainly the keys and different feeling spacebars.  I'll try to list all the issues i've had in a bit more detail.

- DK9087 Shine 2 MX Red Red Led - Had several keys with air bubbles on it along with a small crack in the alt key.  Mechanicalkeyboards.com send replacements for this and its all good now.

- DK9008 Shine 2 MX Blue Red Led - Had again several keys with air bubbles and a few with scratches on them, Mechanicalkeyboards.com sent replacements for it also and its perfect now. - this is my favorite one since the space bar is smooth and the MX Blues are crisp.

- DK9008 Shine 3 MX Blue Red Led - More keys with air bubbles this time, along with a spacebar thats ultra mushy, and gets stuck sometimes.  The capslock key also gets stuck for some reason.

- DK9008 Shine 2 MX Blue Red Led/CHN - Inconsistent clicking MX Blues, very loud awkward spacebar.  I still never fixed this one, but it doesnt matter since it just sits in the closet now at this point.

The main thing i dont like is that the spacebars feel different even on the same model keyboard, and it completely ruins the flow when typing.               
Yeah the space bar is odd... I think it's the "improved" stabilizer. My keys are fine though.

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Re: Ducky is absolute garbage.
« Reply #61 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 16:19:19 »
Curious.  I have two Ducky Shine (version 1) with MX blues, and both have MX green under the space bar.
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Re: Ducky is absolute garbage.
« Reply #62 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 16:38:51 »
The new stabilizers feel mushy. The G710+ I tried at bestbuy was fine.

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Re: Ducky is absolute garbage.
« Reply #63 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 22:20:07 »
The new stabilizers feel mushy. The G710+ I tried at bestbuy was fine.
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Re: Ducky is absolute garbage.
« Reply #64 on: Wed, 16 October 2013, 09:09:49 »
Cherry stabalizers are generally mushy

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Re: Ducky is absolute garbage.
« Reply #65 on: Wed, 16 October 2013, 10:13:27 »
But these feel especially mushy. It feels like they have springs under them along with the switch itself. The G710+ felt almost identical to my K90 in terms of stabilizers.

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Re: Ducky is absolute garbage.
« Reply #66 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 09:18:26 »
More anecdotal evidence for you. I got play with some Ducky Zeros at my local Microcenter this weekend. The Ducky Zeros felt like very solid well made boards. Maybe even a little more solid than my Rosewill. The space bar was very crisp and so were all of the caps, shift, and tab keys. I was of course looking at the non back light versions.