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FOR TOPRE SWITCHES:for a topre spring, you want to lube in a circle around the slider. use a very thick lube (the thick formula works reasonably well). the idea is to attempt to fill the gaps between the slider faces. this will _increase_ the resistance of the slider, but decrease the noise in that resistance w/rt to displacement. it will feel stiffer but smoother.
FOR MX SWITCHES:i would not lube where the spring touches the cap of the stem. there is no wear there. the spring also does not touch the stem in a typical actuation, i wouldn't bother with that either. in fact, the only place i recommend lub is the either the slider or the housing side of the points at which the slider touches the housing. for linear switches, i recommend lubricating the front of the slider as well, the tendrils that actuate the gold crosspoints (they are lubed from the factory but with a silicone lube that just does not last long enough or provide the lubridicity for really smooth actuation), and the arc-face of a linear switch. i do not recommend lube anywhere else in an MX switch.FOR TOPRE SWITCHES:for a topre spring, you want to lube in a circle around the slider. use a very thick lube (the thick formula works reasonably well). the idea is to attempt to fill the gaps between the slider faces. this will _increase_ the resistance of the slider, but decrease the noise in that resistance w/rt to displacement. it will feel stiffer but smoother.there is one more place to lube a topre switch, but it must be done BEFORE the previous step. using a very thin lube and a small gauge needle, insert several drops into the slider. the goal is to get the lube to migrate to the PCB and elastomers. the reason to do this is to increase the seal between the elastomer bottom faces and the PCB. in my testing i've seen a slight difference between the elastomer membrane of a 55g topre switch and an unlubricated elastomer. it's very slight, but the tactile bump gets a little bit of a boost from the improved seal between the elastomer edges and the pcb.the sliders make the most dramatic difference in a topre switch. for those, only thick formula makes any difference at all, and again, it increases the force required to actuate the switch but makes that force curve smoother. if you don't want that, don't lube your topre switches. i haven't found any other way to affect the action of a topre switch with lubricant.
Quote from: mkawa on Wed, 04 December 2013, 02:05:12FOR TOPRE SWITCHES:for a topre spring, you want to lube in a circle around the slider. use a very thick lube (the thick formula works reasonably well). the idea is to attempt to fill the gaps between the slider faces. this will _increase_ the resistance of the slider, but decrease the noise in that resistance w/rt to displacement. it will feel stiffer but smoother.Could someone illustrate this point??
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 04 December 2013, 07:00:06Quote from: mkawa on Wed, 04 December 2013, 02:05:12FOR TOPRE SWITCHES:for a topre spring, you want to lube in a circle around the slider. use a very thick lube (the thick formula works reasonably well). the idea is to attempt to fill the gaps between the slider faces. this will _increase_ the resistance of the slider, but decrease the noise in that resistance w/rt to displacement. it will feel stiffer but smoother.Could someone illustrate this point??
for a topre spring, you want to lube in a circle around the slider. use a very thick lube (the thick formula works reasonably well). the idea is to attempt to fill the gaps between the slider faces
Found this with photos for Topre - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49741.0
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oooh! that's simpler. sec.
Hmm mkawas way I wouldn't have to take the keyboard . Tough choice
for a topre spring, you want to lube in a circle around the slider. use a very thick lube (the thick formula works reasonably well). the idea is to attempt to fill the gaps between the slider faces. this will _increase_ the resistance of the slider, but decrease the noise in that resistance w/rt to displacement. it will feel stiffer but smoother.
I think i'll be getting a kit when i order some more springs, I like how it's premixed alreadylet's just hope the packing is a little less sloppy as well, my beta package wasn't the cleanest one
Quote from: dustinhxc on Wed, 04 December 2013, 16:06:10Hmm mkawas way I wouldn't have to take the keyboard . Tough choiceThat's only one part of his lubing process. Apparently, it's supposed to be done after this step: Quotefor a topre spring, you want to lube in a circle around the slider. use a very thick lube (the thick formula works reasonably well). the idea is to attempt to fill the gaps between the slider faces. this will _increase_ the resistance of the slider, but decrease the noise in that resistance w/rt to displacement. it will feel stiffer but smoother.
Any idea when the thick kit will be back in stock?(And the 62g limited springs?
Quote from: jefferai on Sun, 08 December 2013, 13:01:40Any idea when the thick kit will be back in stock?(And the 62g limited springs? Hopefully soon, I have a board I am putting together soon that is going to need the thick lube and 67g springs(which are still in stock but I am scared they might sell out by the time thick is back in stock)
originative will have thick kits in stock late monday. they were shipped saturday
Quote from: mkawa on Sun, 08 December 2013, 13:28:49originative will have thick kits in stock late monday. they were shipped saturday What bout 62g limited springs ? Sorry if this is out of topic.I'd like to bundle together with the thick lube.
I hope you get more thick soon!
62g Limited is OOS.Subscribers got an e-mail last night, but we restocked on the thick stuff
Quote from: sherryton on Tue, 10 December 2013, 13:26:3962g Limited is OOS.Subscribers got an e-mail last night, but we restocked on the thick stuff I'm subscribed but got no email
Quote from: sherryton on Tue, 10 December 2013, 13:26:3962g Limited is OOS.Subscribers got an e-mail last night, but we restocked on the thick stuff Any ETA for 62g limited spring ?
never ever? 65 g better not sell out, I'm thinking of shifting to something heavier in the far future
Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:17:50never ever? 65 g better not sell out, I'm thinking of shifting to something heavier in the far futurebetter get em while they are hot
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:23:15Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:17:50never ever? 65 g better not sell out, I'm thinking of shifting to something heavier in the far futurebetter get em while they are hotwell I do need more lube...and I forgot to get a GH key last time...........descicions descisions desccisons
Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:24:22Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:23:15Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:17:50never ever? 65 g better not sell out, I'm thinking of shifting to something heavier in the far futurebetter get em while they are hotwell I do need more lube...and I forgot to get a GH key last time...........descicions descisions desccisonsI've put the note about the geekhack key a few different orders now and nothing...
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:27:55Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:24:22Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:23:15Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:17:50never ever? 65 g better not sell out, I'm thinking of shifting to something heavier in the far futurebetter get em while they are hotwell I do need more lube...and I forgot to get a GH key last time...........descicions descisions desccisonsI've put the note about the geekhack key a few different orders now and nothing... the one time I bought stuff from sherry(lube, springs, puller) I forgot to put the GH key note but I did get a hand written thank you note....
Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:32:13Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:27:55Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:24:22Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:23:15Quote from: Pacifist on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:17:50never ever? 65 g better not sell out, I'm thinking of shifting to something heavier in the far futurebetter get em while they are hotwell I do need more lube...and I forgot to get a GH key last time...........descicions descisions desccisonsI've put the note about the geekhack key a few different orders now and nothing... the one time I bought stuff from sherry(lube, springs, puller) I forgot to put the GH key note but I did get a hand written thank you note....what the crap.....I've bought all sorts of stuff I never got a note!! and I've put comments in the comment box every time
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 10 December 2013, 13:37:46Quote from: sherryton on Tue, 10 December 2013, 13:26:3962g Limited is OOS.Subscribers got an e-mail last night, but we restocked on the thick stuff I'm subscribed but got no email Ditto.
Will you be getting thick soon? Thanks!
Quote from: dustinhxc on Mon, 13 January 2014, 13:34:47Will you be getting thick soon? Thanks!That's rude. It's not polite to imply that Sherry is getting fat.