45g Originative Springs

[Linkbane]

I'm personally a fan of very light switches, so I'd just like to put out the question of how people feel using them in clicky, linear, and tactile (Brown/Clear) switches.
Are they a significant departure from the normal light Cherry springs, and has anyone ever actually tried a super-ergo-clear (e.g. clear with 45g springs)?
Thanks for input!

[Oobly]

I doubt the 45g springs will have the strength to return the stem to the top on Clears. Even 62g springs can feel a bit "reluctant" if you don't lube the switches.

Reds should work fine with them, but 45g is REALLY light. Browns may feel good if they're strong enough to push past the bump. I have no idea about Blues.

If you give them a try, please post results.

[terran5992]

I doubt the 45g springs will have the strength to return the stem to the top on Clears. Even 62g springs can feel a bit "reluctant" if you don't lube the switches.

Reds should work fine with them, but 45g is REALLY light. Browns may feel good if they're strong enough to push past the bump. I have no idea about Blues.

If you give them a try, please post results.

Yup can verify this.

Some of my 62g clears sometimes get stuck

[Beca]

I doubt the 45g springs will have the strength to return the stem to the top on Clears. Even 62g springs can feel a bit "reluctant" if you don't lube the switches.

Reds should work fine with them, but 45g is REALLY light. Browns may feel good if they're strong enough to push past the bump. I have no idea about Blues.

If you give them a try, please post results.

Yup can verify this.

Some of my 62g clears sometimes get stuck

So lubing is pretty much necessary for 62g clears?

[Oobly]

So lubing is pretty much necessary for 62g clears?

Yep. Helps them feel nicer, too.

[Linkbane]

Hm, then Clears are definitely a no-go in that case.
I suppose that if I was going to customize switches, I could just lube them with some simple stuff from a hardware store or the like. However, I heard that lubing can take away click, so I'd be cautious before I tried lubing a Blue.

No experience on 45g (or similar) Blues/Browns/Reds?

[nubbinator]

You'd just lube the legs where they contact the leaf inside the switch.  But the springs are cheap.  Just buy some and try them.  If you don't like them, you can sell them pretty easily.

[Dreamre]

Stock red/blue/brown springs has an extremely difficult time getting past the bump on clear switches. Like everyone else said, it's either 62g+.

[Linkbane]

Hm. Are 45g compatible with Blues? I would assume so, but can't be sure. I wouldn't bother trying them on Browns as they'd probably feel completely linear.

[Photoelectric]

Those springs are not 45g bottom out force, they are heavier and closer to 55g springs.  I use them partially compressed in Jailhouse Blues, and the result is still quite light.  I believe those springs to be too light for Clears.

[Linkbane]

Those springs are not 45g bottom out force, they are heavier and closer to 55g springs.  I use them partially compressed in Jailhouse Blues, and the result is still quite light.  I believe those springs to be too light for Clears.

Ah thanks, I'll keep that in mind and I might try it on a switch or two if I decide to get some over X-mas.
Every post has told me that they're too light for clears, haha.  )

[Photoelectric]

Those springs are not 45g bottom out force, they are heavier and closer to 55g springs.  I use them partially compressed in Jailhouse Blues, and the result is still quite light.  I believe those springs to be too light for Clears.

Ah thanks, I'll keep that in mind and I might try it on a switch or two if I decide to get some over X-mas.
Every post has told me that they're too light for clears, haha.  )

Have a look here, for reference
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.msg981041#msg981041

[Linkbane]

Those springs are not 45g bottom out force, they are heavier and closer to 55g springs.  I use them partially compressed in Jailhouse Blues, and the result is still quite light.  I believe those springs to be too light for Clears.

Ah thanks, I'll keep that in mind and I might try it on a switch or two if I decide to get some over X-mas.
Every post has told me that they're too light for clears, haha.  )

Have a look here, for reference
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.msg981041#msg981041

Ah, I saw that chart on Originative's page. Thanks a bunch for it.

[swill]

Those springs are not 45g bottom out force, they are heavier and closer to 55g springs.  I use them partially compressed in Jailhouse Blues, and the result is still quite light.  I believe those springs to be too light for Clears.

Ah thanks, I'll keep that in mind and I might try it on a switch or two if I decide to get some over X-mas.
Every post has told me that they're too light for clears, haha.  )

Have a look here, for reference
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.msg981041#msg981041

Haha, you just posted the same reference that I did in the 67g thread. 

[Photoelectric]

Well, it's The reference.  It's the best we have, hence why it's even on the Originative pages.

[Oobly]

Hm. Are 45g compatible with Blues? I would assume so, but can't be sure. I wouldn't bother trying them on Browns as they'd probably feel completely linear.

Actually, they should increase the relative tactility of the bump on Browns, due to the lower spring force and same leaf pressure (pressure of the contact leaves on the bump of the slider), especially with light keycaps (heavy caps tend to lessen bump feel due to momentum). May actually feel very nice. Something like a lighter ErgoClear, perhaps. I think I may try this next time I order from Originative. Hmmm... ErgoBrowns. 

[MonoSky]

I am getting a keyboard with MX Reds with the 45g spring from Originative mid January. If you can wait until then I can tell you how they feel!
By the way I like light linear switches.

[Linkbane]

I am getting a keyboard with MX Reds with the 45g spring from Originative mid January. If you can wait until then I can tell you how they feel!
By the way I like light linear switches.

They're nice to type on, very comfortable. However, I'd think that the effect on a linear switch would be rather simple, haha.