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Offline lolkey

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Filco 2 Ninja Keycaps
« on: Thu, 19 December 2013, 09:52:23 »
I just got my first mech keyboard around a week ago and everything is great, except the blank top keycaps. I'm not sure what it is, but after 10-15 min of playing an fps game where my fingers are constantly pressed on the WASD keys, they feel like they become coated with a thin film of gunk/oil and it's a really awkward feeling that bothers me. I'm sure this is some type of oil from my fingers, but I'm coming from a scissor switch apple keyboard and never had this issue with that keyboard.

I've read that the Filcos use cheap keycaps, so could this be the case? Would a replacement set of some quality caps fix the issue?
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Re: Filco 2 Ninja Keycaps
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 19 December 2013, 10:08:29 »
Sounds like you could use some PBT keycaps...
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Re: Filco 2 Ninja Keycaps
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 19 December 2013, 10:20:20 »
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 19 December 2013, 10:08:29
Sounds like you could use some PBT keycaps...

What's the texture like on PBT? The ones I have now seem very thin and the surface is very slippery smooth.

Also where to get PBT set for a FILCO2? Is there a popular set most people tend to get?
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Re: Filco 2 Ninja Keycaps
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 19 December 2013, 10:25:22 »
PBT has a better texture to it, not as smooth and soft as ABS.

Any PBT set with a standard layout should work with your Filco. There's actually a group-buy going on right now for a 104/105 thick-PBT keyset, and they're offering blanks or black-on-black dyesubed legends. Link here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.0
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Re: Filco 2 Ninja Keycaps
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 19 December 2013, 13:13:52 »
If it is mainly WASD while gaming, you could try looking for a set of just PBT WASD to start with.

If that drastically improves things, then start searching for a full set.
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Re: Filco 2 Ninja Keycaps
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 19 December 2013, 13:30:40 »
PBT keycaps tend to have a dryer, more powdery feel to them.
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Re: Filco 2 Ninja Keycaps
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 19 December 2013, 20:40:37 »
Quote from: PointyFox on Thu, 19 December 2013, 13:30:40
PBT keycaps tend to have a dryer, more powdery feel to them.

Good description!
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Re: Filco 2 Ninja Keycaps
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 19 December 2013, 22:22:20 »
It feels like smooth sandpaper
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Re: Filco 2 Ninja Keycaps
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 20 December 2013, 00:14:21 »
Quote from: terran5992 on Thu, 19 December 2013, 22:22:20
It feels like smooth sandpaper

Smooth sandpaper - you mean like paper? ;)
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Re: Filco 2 Ninja Keycaps
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 20 December 2013, 08:14:32 »
Quote from: rowdy on Fri, 20 December 2013, 00:14:21
Quote from: terran5992 on Thu, 19 December 2013, 22:22:20
It feels like smooth sandpaper

Smooth sandpaper - you mean like paper? ;)

Yea i guess that works well as a description :)
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