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Curious about Keyboard Upgrades; Shine II
« on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 03:34:40 »
Just got a (refurb with american keys) red-switched, illuminated (white leds) keyboard from Mechanical Keyboards, called the Shine II. Pulled the key caps off this bad boy, and put in some blue o-rings from wasdkeyboards. I replaced the WASD cluster with heavy zinc keys, and the spacebar with a lighter aluminium key.

It's only fair that I give a picture of this awesome keyboard :]
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What I'm curious about, is different options for illumination friendly keys? It seems like the majority of group buys on geekhack are for real thick double shots, and thick dark-colored PBT's. A friend of mine has a full set of Dye Subs in Blue with Black lettering, and it looks pretty cool. Problem is, on my keyboard, even if I blast the LEDs to full, its hard to read the Dye lettering. FYI translucent keys look crazy to me.
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Re: Curious about Keyboard Upgrades; Shine II
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 03:39:01 »
You could put some thick PBT caps on there and cover those nasty LEDs up! :thumb:
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Re: Curious about Keyboard Upgrades; Shine II
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 11:21:56 »
Quote from: Snigeln on Wed, 08 January 2014, 03:39:01
You could put some thick PBT caps on there and cover those nasty LEDs up! :thumb:

Or if you didn't like them, you could just turn them off? Backlight elitism is the most idiotic thing..

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I have a Shine 3, and you might like some PBT caps. Ones from Banggood are really cheap ($18 for an 87-key set) and are medium thickness; LEDs will shine through just fine. My Shine 3 is the Yellow edition with thick PBT, and somehow Ducky managed to make it backlight-enabled, as I can see them perfectly.

My recommendation is blank caps. Makes your board at least 1.3x cooler, and you learn to type better.
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Re: Curious about Keyboard Upgrades; Shine II
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 11:27:33 »
I just keep my shine 2 LEDS off...
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Re: Curious about Keyboard Upgrades; Shine II
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 15:08:40 »
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 08 January 2014, 11:27:33
I just keep my shine 2 LEDS off...

You sound like an ideal candidate for a Ducky Zero!
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Re: Curious about Keyboard Upgrades; Shine II
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 15:15:40 »
Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 08 January 2014, 15:08:40
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 08 January 2014, 11:27:33
I just keep my shine 2 LEDS off...

You sound like an ideal candidate for a Ducky Zero!

but they don't come with clears :(
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Re: Curious about Keyboard Upgrades; Shine II
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 16:20:58 »
Quote from: Linkbane on Wed, 08 January 2014, 11:21:56
Quote from: Snigeln on Wed, 08 January 2014, 03:39:01
You could put some thick PBT caps on there and cover those nasty LEDs up! :thumb:
Or if you didn't like them, you could just turn them off? Backlight elitism is the most idiotic thing..
Quote from: Linkbane on Wed, 08 January 2014, 11:21:56
My recommendation is blank caps. Makes your board at least 1.3x cooler, and you learn to type better.

Yeeeah... k. I guess that would work.
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Re: Curious about Keyboard Upgrades; Shine II
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 17:37:18 »
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 08 January 2014, 15:15:40
Quote from: rowdy on Wed, 08 January 2014, 15:08:40
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 08 January 2014, 11:27:33
I just keep my shine 2 LEDS off...

You sound like an ideal candidate for a Ducky Zero!

but they don't come with clears :(

Ducky Zero plus a box of clear switches and a weekend's diligent soldering should see you right ;)
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Re: Curious about Keyboard Upgrades; Shine II
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 22:24:26 »
Quote from: Linkbane on Wed, 08 January 2014, 11:21:56
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I have a Shine 3, and you might like some PBT caps. Ones from Banggood are really cheap ($18 for an 87-key set) and are medium thickness; LEDs will shine through just fine. My Shine 3 is the Yellow edition with thick PBT, and somehow Ducky managed to make it backlight-enabled, as I can see them perfectly.

My recommendation is blank caps. Makes your board at least 1.3x cooler, and you learn to type better.
I type in alot of weird positions.. so not really ready for blank caps. The trick is not the thickness, but the luminosity/transparency of the keycap when light is applied. Yellow is too bling-bling to me. I want red keys, and maybe green for; (up,down,left,right) and (wasd). I wish there was a store where I could try tons of keycaps, and just know what I want exactly. I really like this keycap set, but I know it isn't friendly with illumination because the keys look too dark. :/

I have the LED lighting on the lowest setting (5 levels of lighting) in that picture. It's not that bad, at it's highest setting it's blindingly high.

Quote from: Snigeln on Wed, 08 January 2014, 03:39:01
You could put some thick PBT caps on there and cover those nasty LEDs up! :thumb:
I love the LEDs, although it'd be cooler if they'd give up on white/red/blue, and just give customers RGB with a gray encoded dial to switch the LED lighting.. maybe I should write some code for that... >.> (NXP processors are both cheap, large internal sram/flash, and have rather obscene MIPS.)
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Re: Curious about Keyboard Upgrades; Shine II
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 23:54:58 »
Quote from: ihateregister on Wed, 08 January 2014, 22:24:26
I love the LEDs, although it'd be cooler if they'd give up on white/red/blue, and just give customers RGB

RGB LEDs are physically too large to fit in the LED slot in the cherry housing.
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