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Offline FinancialWar

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Do a NPV analysis before you buy another keyboard (or anything)
« on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 23:34:57 »
and you will find that all your keyboard "investment" will have a probably negative NPV, therefore bad purchase decision.
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Re: Do a NPV analysis before you buy another keyboard (or anything)
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 23:36:02 »
Oh god, you've migrated from OCAU :/
It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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Re: Do a NPV analysis before you buy another keyboard (or anything)
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 01:31:48 »
and you will find that all your keyboard "investment" will have a probably negative NPV, therefore bad purchase decision.

…and your point is….
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Re: Do a NPV analysis before you buy another keyboard (or anything)
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 07:10:27 »


I have no idea what this threads even about. But I spend entirely too much on keyboards and related items.

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Re: Do a NPV analysis before you buy another keyboard (or anything)
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 13:34:26 »
Whats a NPV analysis?
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Re: Do a NPV analysis before you buy another keyboard (or anything)
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 14:11:48 »
Whats a NPV analysis?

NPV (aka net present value) is the sum of all cash flows (both cash-out and cash-in) discounted to its present value (what it's worth today).   



Finally something relevant to my profession...enough with you programmers and engineers.

Edit: Of course every keyboard purchase has a negative NPV.  The only items we buy/trade that don't are clacks and SSKs (with current market prices).  Just look at the Korean keyboards...5 months ago they were routinely selling for $500. Now, you can get them in the classifieds, fully built, for $360.  Besides, by its definition, anyone who has a positive NPV will be making money off the community.
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Re: Do a NPV analysis before you buy another keyboard (or anything)
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 14:17:48 »
How long before this troll is warned or muted? Here are number of topics he created with an obvious purpose to be controversial and argumentative:

> is teaching my son how to pick up girls a good idea??
> white rapist in China
> Do a NPV analysis before you buy another keyboard (or anything)
> If you're right handed, then why the h3ll are you using a right-handed keyboard?

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Re: Do a NPV analysis before you buy another keyboard (or anything)
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 14:18:34 »
Isnt that mostly relevent to business ventures? Wouldnt all hobbies have a NPV < 0?

Is this a joke thread.  :confused:
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Re: Do a NPV analysis before you buy another keyboard (or anything)
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 14:18:49 »
How long before this troll is warned or muted? Here are number of topics he created with an obvious purpose to be controversial and argumentative:

> is teaching my son how to pick up girls a good idea??
> white rapist in China
> Do a NPV analysis before you buy another keyboard (or anything)
> If you're right handed, then why the h3ll are you using a right-handed keyboard?

....but but but...I want to talk accounting and finance.
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Re: Do a NPV analysis before you buy another keyboard (or anything)
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 14:43:30 »
Whats a NPV analysis?

NPV (aka net present value) is the sum of all cash flows (both cash-out and cash-in) discounted to its present value (what it's worth today).   

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Finally something relevant to my profession...enough with you programmers and engineers.

Edit: Of course every keyboard purchase has a negative NPV.  The only items we buy/trade that don't are clacks and SSKs (with current market prices).  Just look at the Korean keyboards...5 months ago they were routinely selling for $500. Now, you can get them in the classifieds, fully built, for $360.  Besides, by its definition, anyone who has a positive NPV will be making money off the community.

Wait, it doesn't mean "neutral point of view"? And there may be math involved?

I think I need a drink. Maybe several. And a keyboard with drainage channels.

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Re: Do a NPV analysis before you buy another keyboard (or anything)
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 14:53:37 »
Too bad I just ordered 3 brand new Topre boards!!
What do you think of that sir? ;)

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Re: Do a NPV analysis before you buy another keyboard (or anything)
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 14:55:43 »
Sounds like someone is taking a financial analysis course and regurgitating it on us.

You know what the time value of money is right? Now answer this, what's the value of your time?

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Re: Do a NPV analysis before you buy another keyboard (or anything)
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 14:57:53 »
Too bad I just ordered 3 brand new Topre boards!!
What do you think of that sir? ;)
Nice. I just barely got into the Realforce Topre 104UB-DK groupbuy on Massdrop. What do you think about that board? I've never used any Topre boards before so I'm going in blindly  :cool:
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Re: Do a NPV analysis before you buy another keyboard (or anything)
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 15:00:27 »
what's the value of your time?

priceless :D

Too bad I just ordered 3 brand new Topre boards!!
What do you think of that sir? ;)

Nice. I just barely got into the Realforce Topre 104UB-DK groupbuy on Massdrop. What do you think about that board? I've never used any Topre boards before so I'm going in blindly  :cool:

It's really a personal thing, I actually enjoy topre and MX both. I really like the look of the 104UB-DK and will likely mod mine.

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Re: Do a NPV analysis before you buy another keyboard (or anything)
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 15:00:29 »
Too bad I just ordered 3 brand new Topre boards!!
What do you think of that sir? ;)
Nice. I just barely got into the Realforce Topre 104UB-DK groupbuy on Massdrop. What do you think about that board? I've never used any Topre boards before so I'm going in blindly  :cool:

You picked up a 45g Topre, you'll be happy :)

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Re: Do a NPV analysis before you buy another keyboard (or anything)
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 15:01:06 »
Too bad I just ordered 3 brand new Topre boards!!
What do you think of that sir? ;)
Nice. I just barely got into the Realforce Topre 104UB-DK groupbuy on Massdrop. What do you think about that board? I've never used any Topre boards before so I'm going in blindly  :cool:

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Re: Do a NPV analysis before you buy another keyboard (or anything)
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 17:55:59 »
Isnt that mostly relevent to business ventures? Wouldnt all hobbies have a NPV < 0?

Is this a joke thread.  :confused:

Nope, learning a learning can have a positive NPV.
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