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Re: Ask Cherry Anything! (3/5-Answers Have Been Provided)
« Reply #100 on: Thu, 06 March 2014, 07:15:13 »
Why is the Fujitsu Siemens KBPC-E so similar to the MX5000 but yet entirely different?

My question was skipped, the mystery remains. :(

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Re: Ask Cherry Anything! (3/5-Answers Have Been Provided)
« Reply #101 on: Thu, 06 March 2014, 07:56:11 »
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Are there Cherry Hall Effect Switch keyboards?

Users all over the world really like the mechanical tactile feeling of our mx-technology. So we focus on our MX key switch program.

...wat? Oh of course, how silly of me, clearly http://www.cherrycorp.com/index.htm is full to the brim of only 'mx technology' devices and switches. Yep. Just MX technology everywhere. :rolleyes:

What an utterly useless answer to a perfectly clear and reasonable question.

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Re: Ask Cherry Anything! (3/5-Answers Have Been Provided)
« Reply #102 on: Thu, 06 March 2014, 12:49:08 »
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Are MX Whites still being made and do they have special
or extra lubing from the factory?

The whites have been made on special request from business customers. There’s no special lubing on white stem switches.

We have observed great lumps of lubrication on them. I believe this answer to be false. I am curious what they would say makes them so different if this isn't the case.

Well, Cherry only said "no special lubing". Maybe it's just the regular "magic stuff"?
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What is the normal lube used on MX switches?

Sorry, but we can’t give further information here.  It’s all CHERRY magic technology know-how!
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Re: Ask Cherry Anything! (3/5-Answers Have Been Provided)
« Reply #103 on: Thu, 06 March 2014, 12:50:41 »
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Are MX Whites still being made and do they have special
or extra lubing from the factory?

The whites have been made on special request from business customers. There’s no special lubing on white stem switches.

We have observed great lumps of lubrication on them. I believe this answer to be false. I am curious what they would say makes them so different if this isn't the case.

Well, Cherry only said "no special lubing". Maybe it's just the regular "magic stuff"?
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What is the normal lube used on MX switches?

Sorry, but we can’t give further information here.  It’s all CHERRY magic technology know-how!


Probably just the state of the art machinery that makes there switches sprung a fluid leak  :))

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Re: Ask Cherry Anything! (3/5-Answers Have Been Provided)
« Reply #104 on: Thu, 06 March 2014, 12:51:44 »
Hey Cherry are you making the new switches Razer is advertising? 
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Re: Ask Cherry Anything! (3/5-Answers Have Been Provided)
« Reply #105 on: Thu, 06 March 2014, 13:45:02 »
Hey Cherry are you making the new switches Razer is advertising?

The new switches on Razer's keyboard aren't Cherry MX switches.

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Re: Ask Cherry Anything! (3/5-Answers Have Been Provided)
« Reply #106 on: Thu, 06 March 2014, 13:55:06 »
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Did the Cherry MX Blue Keys change at any point?
No, the design is still based on the first products.

Maybe the design, but according to a certain thread over at Deskthority, at least material of springs has changed over time.

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and once with “night glow” ABS

I believe those were sold as accessories for the Raptor gaming keyboards, weren't they?

Otherwise, I'm somewhat disappointed... too much marketing in one place.

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Re: Ask Cherry Anything! (3/5-Answers Have Been Provided)
« Reply #107 on: Thu, 06 March 2014, 15:14:47 »
@Cherry:
Is Cherry going to take legal action against Razer as the switches look like clones of the MX series?

@Corsair & Cherry:
Did Razer abandon all cooporation with Cherry? If yes, do you think this was a response to Corsairs exclusive deal on the RGB switches?
I would love to see a comparison of both switches from Cherry's/Corsair's side, since Razer seems to brag with how much better they are (which I doubt).

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Re: Ask Cherry Anything! (3/5-Answers Have Been Provided)
« Reply #108 on: Thu, 06 March 2014, 22:34:59 »
They welcome How its Made :D

...and so i've emailed How its Made!

I also submitted the idea on their suggestion page! Where we can up-vote OUR idea! for a Mechanical Keyboard 'How its Made' segment!

http://www.sciencechannel.com/tv-shows/how-its-made/show-talk/submit-your-ideas.htm

DO EEET! ^^ (submitted under the name 'Lou', in case you have trouble finding it later)

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Re: Ask Cherry Anything! (3/5-Answers Have Been Provided)
« Reply #109 on: Thu, 06 March 2014, 22:56:11 »
Humm, the answers are not really satisfying, too much marketing, dodging and guessing...

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Re: Ask Cherry Anything! (3/5-Answers Have Been Provided)
« Reply #110 on: Fri, 07 March 2014, 00:11:23 »
Humm, the answers are not really satisfying, too much marketing, dodging and guessing...

Yeah, but that's to be expected.  They probably can't reveal certain things for legal reasons.  Much better than this interview in terms of actual information revealed by manufacturer:
http://www.keyboardlover.com/carlmatsuinterview.php
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Re: Ask Cherry Anything! (3/5-Answers Have Been Provided)
« Reply #111 on: Fri, 07 March 2014, 00:23:55 »
Humm, the answers are not really satisfying, too much marketing, dodging and guessing...

Yeah, but that's to be expected.  They probably can't reveal certain things for legal reasons.  Much better than this interview in terms of actual information revealed by manufacturer:
http://www.keyboardlover.com/carlmatsuinterview.php

Oh my..these questions! hahaha

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Re: Ask Cherry Anything! (3/5-Answers Have Been Provided)
« Reply #112 on: Fri, 07 March 2014, 02:35:55 »
It's funny how much the market and community have changed in just three years or so.

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Re: Ask Cherry Anything! (3/5-Answers Have Been Provided)
« Reply #113 on: Fri, 07 March 2014, 07:40:25 »
Ohh eee I am super happy they answered my question to what the most used switch is evening getting a photo, I feel special now :p Thank you CorsairJames and Cherry people :)
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Re: Ask Cherry Anything! (3/5-Answers Have Been Provided)
« Reply #114 on: Fri, 07 March 2014, 10:12:32 »
Did the material in Black stems change over time? If so, are there known dates as to when the material was changed?

This was one of the best questions, IMHO, and it didn't get answered. Cherry must not want to admit that the material changed because now they're using cheaper plastics :p

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Did the material in Black stems change over time? If so, are there known dates as to when the material was changed?

No, it has been the same proven material every time. The fluctuations are caused by the different tools we‘re using here in the production. But we always optimize our production processes to realize a standardized stem quality. 

^^ seems like an answer to me  ;D

Ahh, I didn't realize they were still adding answers. Wasn't up there when I first looked at the FAQ page.
I'm surprised it hasn't changed. Vintage switches feel so different—but I guess that goes to show you how much slight modifications to the machining process can affect the product.
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Re: Ask Cherry Anything! (3/5-Answers Have Been Provided)
« Reply #115 on: Sun, 09 March 2014, 08:49:29 »
Humm, the answers are not really satisfying, too much marketing, dodging and guessing...

I'm disappointed, even though I knew we'd learn very little. The only question of mine that made it in, I don't believe the answer. I doubt that whoever answered those questions even knows or cares — these switches are over 30 years old! The ones I'm most interested in are the M6–M11, and the oldest of those are over 40 years old! Information on those is extremely scarce now.

A lot of the answers lie in contemporary product information: Cherry catalogues and brochures from the past 40 years or more. We just don't have most of these.

What's sad is that Cherry are so paranoid, that they reject any non-stock switch as "fake" — they won't recognise all their interesting specialist production runs as real. Sadly these won't be in any of the catalogues. I would love to know about the pale yellow and grey-green ones from the Xerox 1190:

http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/cherry-switches-t1939.html#p33646

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