Author Topic: New realforce 87U (Read 12325 times)

lam47 · « **on:** Tue, 17 March 2009, 11:38:17 »

Available April 7th!

http://www.leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1237185827

wellington1869 · « **Reply #1 on:** Tue, 17 March 2009, 11:58:45 »

hows this one different from the 86u?

lal · « **Reply #2 on:** Tue, 17 March 2009, 12:05:20 »

LEDs embedded into keys?

FKSSR · « **Reply #3 on:** Tue, 17 March 2009, 12:09:10 »

Yeah, that's what it looks like to me. Looks sharp.

Chloe · « **Reply #4 on:** Tue, 17 March 2009, 12:16:42 »

There is also an extra Windows key on the right next to AppsKey, and what looks like a built-in numpad. Alphabet legends are also larger.

wellington1869 · « **Reply #5 on:** Tue, 17 March 2009, 12:21:23 »

Quote from: Chloe;24739

There is also an extra Windows key on the right next to AppsKey, and what looks like a built-in numpad. Alphabet legends are also larger.

I think that also means the spacebar is shorter, right? (if so, that means this is the model I'd get when I eventually get one

I think thats right. Here's the old 86u:
http://www.leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1208764017

I have to say though I'm not sure I'm terribly interested in the topre (tho I admit its wonderful). To quote chloe again, I'd miss the "industrious chatter" of the bs

Ulysses31 · « **Reply #6 on:** Tue, 17 March 2009, 12:53:11 »

Cool. It reminds me of the way the LED was imbedded into the button of the keyboards that came with the good old Amstrad PCW8256.

FKSSR · « **Reply #7 on:** Tue, 17 March 2009, 13:00:48 »

Quote from: wellington1869;24740

I have to say though I'm not sure I'm terribly interested in the topre (tho I admit its wonderful). To quote chloe again, I'd miss the "industrious chatter" of the bs

That's the way I feel (also with the HHKB Pro), though I do which I could try one out (and also the HHKB Pro).

lam47 · « **Reply #8 on:** Tue, 17 March 2009, 13:51:13 »

I really want one!
Would love to get the black one as it looks so cool and I like the feel and sound of the keys a lot.
Might see if there is anyone in Japan that knows of the release over there or if these are Korean exclusives.

kyamei · « **Reply #9 on:** Tue, 17 March 2009, 19:20:32 »

Keyboard looks nice, but I'm more interested in that keypad. Is that new, or has it always been around? I like it, it keeps the standard keypad layout from full boards, none of those 0 and 00 keys, etc. I'd probably use my HHKB a lot more if I had one of those.

bigpook · « **Reply #10 on:** Tue, 17 March 2009, 19:48:17 »

Looks very nice. But it would be more appealing if all of they keys were weighted the same. I think xsphat mentioned that the escape key on his had the best feel overall.

This keyboard would be interesting if all keys were at 55g. For me anyways.

vyshane · « **Reply #11 on:** Thu, 19 March 2009, 05:55:01 »

I see another Topre in my future. This time I'll get one in white.

tamasrepus · « **Reply #12 on:** Fri, 20 March 2009, 01:41:01 »

Hrm, anyone know why there are 2 versions of the black, and 2 of the white? The second of each says something about "55g"...

Edit: Apparently, the first two are English layout, the second two are English/Korean... but the captions for the image on the Korean keyboards still say 55g.

Chloe · « **Reply #13 on:** Fri, 20 March 2009, 06:27:29 »

Diatec shop have the 87U:
http://www.diatec.co.jp/shop/det.php?prod_c=598
http://www.diatec.co.jp/shop/det.php?prod_c=599

lam47 · « **Reply #14 on:** Fri, 20 March 2009, 08:46:51 »

Are they in stock now?
Whats the best way to order from there?

Chloe · « **Reply #15 on:** Fri, 20 March 2009, 08:56:38 »

I think they are pre-order and seem to be limited. I don't think Diatec accept international orders anymore so maybe try Crescent-Shop.

lam47 · « **Reply #16 on:** Fri, 20 March 2009, 08:57:21 »

Aww balls.
Do you know how limited they will be?

Chloe · « **Reply #17 on:** Fri, 20 March 2009, 09:02:39 »

I've no idea, but if you want one I would try to get one pre-ordered soon.

lam47 · « **Reply #18 on:** Fri, 20 March 2009, 09:03:46 »

I might well do that.
Will most likely go with leopold in Korea though as they have some other bits I would like.
Need some cash first though

Thanks Chloe.
x

xsphat · « **Reply #19 on:** Fri, 20 March 2009, 22:40:54 »

Quote from: lam47;24978

I might well do that.

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Bluemercury · « **Reply #20 on:** Sun, 22 March 2009, 11:54:21 »

Yep, i might be interested too....i was searching for a way to buy the 86u in black....but i might this one.

bobodod · « **Reply #21 on:** Sun, 22 March 2009, 16:06:09 »

Quote from: Bluemercury;25047

Yep, i might be interested too....i was searching for a way to buy the 86u in black....but i might this one.

Looks as though the 87U might be your only choice. Leopold has taken down their 86U pages & removed the links to them from the menus.

Bluemercury · « **Reply #22 on:** Mon, 23 March 2009, 09:46:28 »

Quote from: bobodod;25059

Looks as though the 87U might be your only choice. Leopold has taken down their 86U pages & removed the links to them from the menus.

Still crescent-shop is asking for 320$......:S

lam47 · « **Reply #23 on:** Mon, 23 March 2009, 10:11:12 »

I dont know how but I will have one of the black 87U boards.
Of course I will review and photograph it for you all

Fingers crossed the buy from korea or some similar people will be able to help out.
It looks like a HH killer to me

megarat · « **Reply #24 on:** Wed, 25 March 2009, 23:23:30 »

Rats. I really wish the 87U had a built-in USB hub. Even just one port. I have enough cables strewn across my desk as it is.

xsphat · « **Reply #25 on:** Wed, 25 March 2009, 23:34:52 »

Quote from: megarat;25484

Rats. I really wish the 87U had a built-in USB hub. Even just one port. I have enough cables strewn across my desk as it is.

And I think the LEDs in the keys make it look like something it's not. I still prefer the 86U.

eugenius · « **Reply #26 on:** Thu, 26 March 2009, 02:18:25 »

I really like the color scheme, the fact that it's tenless.

I hate the red escape but I suppose it comes with a normal one also ...

If it was bluetooth and the price was 200$, I would order it.

PS: I wonder why nobody make a hybrid bluetooth/usb keyboard, rechargeable from the usb port when the batteries are low ....

wellington1869 · « **Reply #27 on:** Thu, 26 March 2009, 07:31:56 »

Quote from: eugenius;25502

PS: I wonder why nobody make a hybrid bluetooth/usb keyboard, rechargeable from the usb port when the batteries are low ....

that would involve thinking about design and being creative

FKSSR · « **Reply #28 on:** Thu, 26 March 2009, 07:46:37 »

I wonder if this is something EliteKeyboards.com could stock, in the future...

lam47 · « **Reply #29 on:** Thu, 26 March 2009, 08:09:52 »

I like the LED as I find the IBM space saver irritating in that you cant tell if the numpad is on without typing.
The red escape Is universally accepted as being cool so Im not sure what to say there

Still they are not available just yet.
I cant pick between the white and the black now!

bigpook · « **Reply #30 on:** Thu, 26 March 2009, 08:35:32 »

Quote from: lam47;25542

I like the LED as I find the IBM space saver irritating in that you cant tell if the numpad is on without typing.
The red escape Is universally accepted as being cool so Im not sure what to say there

Still they are not available just yet.
I cant pick between the white and the black now!

I'm with you on the red escape key. It just seems right. Would pass on the LED's though.
I have a model m mini and yes, it would be nice to have an LED to indicate if the numpad was on. But as it is it doesn't cause me too much grief.

Chloe · « **Reply #31 on:** Thu, 26 March 2009, 08:54:43 »

Quote from: lam47;25542

I like the LED as I find the IBM space saver irritating in that you cant tell if the numpad is on without typing.

I wish my Cherry G84-4700 numpad had a numlock LED. Many compact keyboards also omit this so it's nice to see one with it.

FKSSR · « **Reply #32 on:** Thu, 26 March 2009, 09:11:45 »

I'd prefer red LEDs, but I really like that feature.

I also like the red escape key.

I still am afraid to buy a RF without trying one out, though. I'm worried I'll buy it and not like the feel.

We need to plan a GeekHack get together for the NYC area...well, if someone around her has a HHKB or RF

itlnstln · « **Reply #33 on:** Thu, 26 March 2009, 09:15:04 »

Quote from: FKSSR;25550

I'd prefer red LEDs, but I really like that feature.

I also like the red escape key.

I still am afraid to buy a RF without trying one out, though. I'm worried I'll buy it and not like the feel.

We need to plan a GeekHack get together for the NYC area...well, if someone around her has a HHKB or RF

Maybe you could go visit Wellington and check out his Desk-o-Bra.

Sorry, Wellington, I just had to get that in.

FKSSR · « **Reply #34 on:** Thu, 26 March 2009, 09:31:15 »

Quote from: itlnstln;25551

Maybe you could go visit Wellington

Not a bad idea, but I don't think he has a HHKB or Realforce.

itlnstln · « **Reply #35 on:** Thu, 26 March 2009, 09:38:45 »

Quote from: FKSSR;25556

Not a bad idea, but I don't think he has a HHKB or Realforce.

No, he doesn't. I just had to take a stab at the Desk-o-Bra.

The jokes are getting old now; I just need to stop. Welly's taken enough from me, anyway.

bhtooefr · « **Reply #36 on:** Thu, 26 March 2009, 12:18:35 »

Hey, it was his decision to buy the desk-o-bra.

xsphat · « **Reply #37 on:** Thu, 26 March 2009, 13:55:57 »

The Realforce keyboards feel great. so do the HHKB Pros. Trust us.

xsphat · « **Reply #38 on:** Thu, 26 March 2009, 13:56:40 »

Even on a desk-o-bra!

wellington1869 · « **Reply #39 on:** Thu, 26 March 2009, 16:34:25 »

Quote from: itlnstln;25551

Maybe you could go visit Wellington and check out his Desk-o-Bra.

sure but i charge 20 bucks a peep

itlnstln · « **Reply #40 on:** Thu, 26 March 2009, 16:39:05 »

Quote from: wellington1869;25647

sure but i charge 20 bucks a peep

Strong. If I give you $40, will you show me your headlight?

MANISH7 · « **Reply #41 on:** Sat, 28 March 2009, 14:32:48 »

Benippon is selling the Topre 86u English layout for $254 + $12 shipping. Any chance that will drop in price with the release of this new version? I'm skeptical given the pricing scheme of Topres and the aura this keyboard has.

tamasrepus · « **Reply #42 on:** Sat, 28 March 2009, 15:11:50 »

AFAIK, I think the 87U costs more than the 86U did (at least on Leupold.co.kr). The won has been declining in value and it was inevitable that they'd go up in price/introduce a new model with a higher price.

Not sure what this will mean for pricing in Japan.

EDIT: Just to give numbers to compare... the 86U was something like $190 USD at it's lowest, the 87U is now $260.

xsphat · « **Reply #43 on:** Sat, 28 March 2009, 15:19:04 »

I got one of the first Topre 86Us. If you remember, they sold out the first day. Well, mine is from that batch. And I ordered the keyboard, a roof and some key locks. It came to $360. I think the keyboard itself was $280 shipped (I bought the keyboard from BeNippon and the accessories from j-goods, so I paid overseas shipping twice).

rdjack21 · « **Reply #44 on:** Mon, 30 March 2009, 22:02:13 »

Well I bit the bullet and placed an order for this board at Crescent Shop now it is just waiting to see how long it will take to get here. Man it was expensive I just hope my wife does not kill me when she see the bill

lam47 · « **Reply #45 on:** Tue, 31 March 2009, 02:53:57 »

I have mine on the way too.
I did not use a service like cresent as the charges are painful!
I hope you like the board. Which colour did you go for?
Mine is the black one to match my HH.

rdjack21 · « **Reply #46 on:** Tue, 31 March 2009, 08:41:17 »

Quote from: lam47;26236

I have mine on the way too.
I did not use a service like cresent as the charges are painful!
I hope you like the board. Which colour did you go for?
Mine is the black one to match my HH.

I really think the black is the only way to go myself. Don't have a HHKB to match it with yet but I think that may be the next one I get

And yes getting it from cresent was very painful but being new to this it was the only way I could find to get one.

MANISH7 · « **Reply #47 on:** Tue, 31 March 2009, 09:57:48 »

I've finally settled on the black 87u. When I get a Topre, that will be the one. Normally I don't like black matte finish because it is dark, depressing, and dull. Ivory white is bright and shiny but also dull. Had the keys for the white been in red dye or something I'd have thought differently. The new LEDs on black, however, make it look modern. When COD6 comes out at the end of this year, I'll build a computer and with that get a new Topre.

tamasrepus · « **Reply #48 on:** Tue, 31 March 2009, 14:26:35 »

Got some translations from my girlfriend... So apparently, Leopold.co.kr sells at least 3 different versions of the Realforce 87U.

Realforce 87U with Korean keys
Realforce 87U with 55g key weights: All keys have a 55g response, unlike the normal 87U, which has different weights for different keys.
Realforce 87U with American keys

All three are available in both white and black.

I think I am going to try to get the 55g version... Since I don't touch-type, I imagine the differently-weighted keys throwing me off. Other geekhack members have mentioned that it bothers them too.

FKSSR · « **Reply #49 on:** Tue, 31 March 2009, 14:32:37 »

Very interesting. Thanks for posting that info!

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Author Topic: New realforce 87U (Read 12325 times)