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Offline ebacho

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:19:10 »
Interested in 1 80% and 1 60%... gotta start saving now or liquidate some of the collection, man.

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #51 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 23:09:39 »
b..b..but, Viper,...

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #52 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 23:14:20 »
Okay, I confirmed that I will do a group buy for Orion.

I'll set up a group buy thread soon..

If there are enough orders for a specific location and people want a proxy, please find one and let me know the details..

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #53 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 00:15:03 »
b..b..but, Viper,...


but but buhhhht viper :(

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #54 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 01:43:14 »
If today had been a hippo, then you'd really have to worry about tomorrow.

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #55 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 02:11:06 »
Some info....

- Interest check for Viper & Eagle will last until 3/10.   He needs at least 100 combined units before proceeding with the groupbuy.
- IC stands at about ~50 units with 5 days to go -- not looking very good :(
- Someone asked Duck about its compatibility with other 60% PCBs.  He's not sure because he doesn't own any other 60%.
- Kit includes: Aluminum case (1 pc design, probably means it's a tray) + Stainless Plate + PCB (SMD comp pre-soldered) + bolts
- Fully programmable.  I believe it supports full LED as well.
- Price of 200,000 won is before VAT.  Final price will likely be about 10% more.

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #56 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 02:20:30 »
Some info....

- Interest check for Viper & Eagle will last until 3/10.   He needs at least 100 combined units before proceeding with the groupbuy.
- IC stands at about ~50 units with 5 days to go -- not looking very good :(
- Someone asked Duck about its compatibility with other 60% PCBs.  He's not sure because he doesn't own any other 60%.
- Kit includes: Aluminum case (1 pc design, probably means it's a tray) + Stainless Plate + PCB (SMD comp pre-soldered) + bolts
- Fully programmable.  I believe it supports full LED as well.
- Price of 200,000 won is before VAT.  Final price will likely be about 10% more.
Damn shame.
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #57 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 02:21:38 »
That's a high MOQ :O

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #58 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 04:20:03 »
Why would they need 100?
Isn't that a bit unreasonable?
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #59 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 05:56:40 »
Why would they need 100?
Isn't that a bit unreasonable?
Maybe that is which factory required to production :)

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #60 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 13:44:57 »
- Someone asked Duck about its compatibility with other 60% PCBs.  He's not sure because he doesn't own any other 60%.

So is this PCB the same one from the Duck Mini v2?

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #61 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 13:53:38 »
Bummer ... well put me down for a viper if it ever happens  :(

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #62 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 15:11:03 »
- Someone asked Duck about its compatibility with other 60% PCBs.  He's not sure because he doesn't own any other 60%.

So is this PCB the same one from the Duck Mini v2?

Very similar - with same layout etc. but this one is not Alps compatible.

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #63 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 18:57:07 »
If this does end up being $187 plus shipping etc, it's going to be very hard to turn down.

^ I second this ^

^ I second this too. Duck Eagle even cheaper than a single premium version FMJ case? Wow.
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #64 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 19:39:19 »
^ +1, we should probably need an interest check thread to gauge if we can help that MOQ. Dat Viper..

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #65 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 19:40:23 »
If this does end up being $187 plus shipping etc, it's going to be very hard to turn down.

^ I second this ^

^ I second this too. Duck Eagle even cheaper than a single premium version FMJ case? Wow.

And so I have doubts about their build-quality, honestly the Duck Miniv2 is not as good...

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #66 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 19:44:59 »
Duck Mini v2 is not as good as what? I don't have one, but I'm curious why you have doubts about the quality of Duck's offerings.
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #67 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 19:46:50 »
If this does end up being $187 plus shipping etc, it's going to be very hard to turn down.

^ I second this ^

^ I second this too. Duck Eagle even cheaper than a single premium version FMJ case? Wow.

And so I have doubts about their build-quality, honestly the Duck Miniv2 is not as good...

As far as I can tell from the picture, Eagle is pretty much just a 60% version of lightsaver 96, and I have not seen anyone complaining about lightsaver's build quality. But, of course Eagle is not as good as FMJ case material wise. (EDIT: and anodization wise as well. Just to be clear.)
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #68 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 20:13:15 »
IINM, duck's alu case is made of 6061 material and FMJ's is 7075 (premium)
but i'm not a material expert...what's the difference between this 2 anyway?
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #69 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 22:27:29 »
well the build-quality depends on many factors and the alu may not the problem, a lot of housing out there using 6061 and it's still good, and at that price I don't expect to get a 7075 case too (except the one from Ali), but  the anod, I have some friends comfirmed the Duckmini2's anod surface is not so good, and joneslee also tell that the pcb coating on Buttefly got crack when he do the solder works

but dont get me wrong, I don't mean to talk bad or sth like that, just some thought and that Viper, its price, is one damn sexy case I want

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #70 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 22:38:54 »
I assume that the PCB fabrication for Butterfly was done in the same place as for the LightSaver, and I have not noticed ANY issues with cracking or anything of the sort when soldering my Lightsaver.  It went perfectly and was very easy to solder, and I have no complaints about PCB quality whatsoever. 

The anodizing quality--in general--that people are talking about--I think there's some confusion about surface preparation/finish BEFORE anodizing is done with actual anodizing.  Actual anodizing builds a uniform porous layer over time that is then infused with dye (optional) and sealed.  Any roughness or surface texture difference is a result of surface polishing before anodizing.  Uneven anodizing would be either of these two things: something blocking parts of the anodizing surface in the acid bath (unlikely, if suspended properly) or uneven coloration from lack of dye bath agitation during the dying process.  I'm guessing the issues were more with the surface preparation before anodizing.  Maybe some unevenness around the USB socket hole through which the case may have been suspended for anodizing / dying.

Granted my LightSaver has no dye and is clear-anodized, I can't comment on even tint, but from photographs of the red version ,it looked even.  The finish on my LightSaver is very neat and smooth, without any parts looking patchy or poorly finished to stand out.
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #71 on: Thu, 06 March 2014, 09:55:35 »
- Someone asked Duck about its compatibility with other 60% PCBs.  He's not sure because he doesn't own any other 60%.

So is this PCB the same one from the Duck Mini v2?

Very similar - with same layout etc. but this one is not Alps compatible.

The reason I asked is that the PCB from the Duck Mini v2 fits in a poker case just fine. It has the same mounting points as the Poker X (e.g. no center mount).

Has there been any images or schematics of the PCB, because I haven't seen any.

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #72 on: Fri, 07 March 2014, 01:28:03 »
The Eagle is starting to look better and better to me.
If today had been a hippo, then you'd really have to worry about tomorrow.

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #73 on: Thu, 27 March 2014, 12:52:00 »
Group buy is starting soon for Viper and Eagle ;)

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=156727&mid=board_gb_outside

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #74 on: Thu, 27 March 2014, 13:09:45 »
Group buy is starting soon for Viper and Eagle ;)

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=156727&mid=board_gb_outside

Do you know how I can get into this group buy? I can't read Korean  :'(
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #75 on: Thu, 27 March 2014, 13:41:04 »
Group buy is starting soon for Viper and Eagle ;)

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=156727&mid=board_gb_outside

Do you know how I can get into this group buy? I can't read Korean  :'(

+1
Is this something that can be done through GH? Or do we have to go through Korea.
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #76 on: Thu, 27 March 2014, 13:45:32 »
What's the price of the viper according to kbdlab?
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #77 on: Thu, 27 March 2014, 16:16:02 »
Group buy is starting soon for Viper and Eagle ;)

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=156727&mid=board_gb_outside
I want in.

How can I make this happen?
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #78 on: Thu, 27 March 2014, 17:30:58 »
Dunno if I misread.

Is this a DYI Kit or comes fully assembled?
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #79 on: Thu, 27 March 2014, 17:50:33 »
Dunno if I misread.

Is this a DYI Kit or comes fully assembled?

Custom keyboards generally are DYI unless they have an add-on option that states you can buy the assembly service. So in this case, it's ~$220 (not including tax/ems shipping) for the DYI kit, without switches, LEDs, and stabs
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #80 on: Thu, 27 March 2014, 18:26:33 »
I would really like to get the HHKB viper.  How long will this GB run for? 
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #81 on: Thu, 27 March 2014, 19:52:32 »
+1 how do i  get in? :D

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #82 on: Thu, 27 March 2014, 19:56:39 »
We all want Viper. Someone please proxy for this...
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #83 on: Fri, 28 March 2014, 12:33:31 »
We all want Viper. Someone please proxy for this...

^^^ This ^^^

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #84 on: Fri, 28 March 2014, 12:53:15 »
We all want Viper. Someone please proxy for this...

And Eagle!
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #85 on: Sat, 29 March 2014, 13:15:22 »
I just tried to register on their site and it would appear you have to have a Korean address. Anyone have a suggestion for a mailing proxy?

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #86 on: Sun, 30 March 2014, 16:41:22 »
I can run a group buy for these, but it has to be after lightsaver v2's group buy..if you guys can wait


Most likely in May..
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #87 on: Sun, 30 March 2014, 16:44:53 »
ew lightsaver :P
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #88 on: Sun, 30 March 2014, 17:07:07 »
I can run a group buy for these, but it has to be after lightsaver v2's group buy..if you guys can wait


Most likely in May..

Waiting is completely fine for me. My only concern is whether or not the group buy will still be open in May.
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #89 on: Sun, 30 March 2014, 17:32:12 »
Most likely a separate group buy for us

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #90 on: Sun, 30 March 2014, 19:20:20 »
So the viper should be ~$200?

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #91 on: Sun, 30 March 2014, 20:12:57 »
So the viper should be ~$200?

That price makes it very enticing .. :eek:

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #92 on: Mon, 31 March 2014, 01:54:44 »
I can run a group buy for these, but it has to be after lightsaver v2's group buy..if you guys can wait


Most likely in May..
Oh I'll be waiting, alright.

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #93 on: Mon, 31 March 2014, 02:00:19 »
Most likely a separate group buy for us

i just saw this... any chance you know of a GB in europe/would you be willing to ship to EU if it's not insanely expensive?
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #94 on: Mon, 31 March 2014, 02:42:26 »
Worldwide shipping is available with EMS.  I have shipping rates from my other group buys, you can check it out. It'll probably be around $40 to ship to EU.

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #95 on: Mon, 31 March 2014, 02:44:24 »
Worldwide shipping is available with EMS.  I have shipping rates from my other group buys, you can check it out. It'll probably be around $40 to ship to EU.

ok cool. just trying to figure out if i should ask around about proxying from korea or wait for you to run a buy... i will probably just wait. if this happens i'll probably sell my GH60 as i want the hhkb case and layout anyways...
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #96 on: Wed, 02 April 2014, 12:59:28 »
http://kbd4u.cafe24.com/index.html

viper and eagle are for sale

I couldn't figure out the payment system ... something about IE and win xp  :confused:

Is there a reason why it has to be a separate gb for international? I'd pay international postage fees.

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #97 on: Wed, 02 April 2014, 13:44:46 »
http://kbd4u.cafe24.com/index.html

viper and eagle are for sale

I couldn't figure out the payment system ... something about IE and win xp  :confused:

Is there a reason why it has to be a separate gb for international? I'd pay international postage fees.

It looks like you have to have a Korean address to sign up for their site.  At least, that's as far as I was able to get in the member sign-up area.  Hopefully elton5354 will be able to run a group buy for all us over here!
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Re: duck viper
« Reply #98 on: Wed, 02 April 2014, 15:55:12 »
http://kbd4u.cafe24.com/index.html

viper and eagle are for sale

I couldn't figure out the payment system ... something about IE and win xp  :confused:

Is there a reason why it has to be a separate gb for international? I'd pay international postage fees.

It looks like you have to have a Korean address to sign up for their site.  At least, that's as far as I was able to get in the member sign-up area.  Hopefully elton5354 will be able to run a group buy for all us over here!

^^^ This ^^^

And hopefully this will give me enough time to save up for both the Viper and the Eagle.  :eek:

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Re: duck viper
« Reply #99 on: Wed, 02 April 2014, 15:57:59 »
Anyone in contact with these guys? Let's get a batch of both sent over to the US!