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Offline MasterBash

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Looking for gaming keyboard
« on: Sun, 04 May 2014, 23:01:50 »
I bought a Quickfire TK a while ago, amazing keyboard but unfortunately, I found that it does not 100% suit my needs, as I realized it lacked some features that I needed, such as macro keys.

I want the keys for gaming. Which means low actuation, low resistance, low latency (debouncing). Topre or MX Cherry Red?

NKRO
1ms polling rate
macro keys on the left side of keyboard <--- this is what I am missing on my current one and I really miss them on the G710+ that I sold.
Small. TKL or something like that. I don't want a full size keyboard, my desk is too small.
Media keys.

I don't think there is such a thing out there yet, but I am not up to date when it comes to mechanical keyboards.

Offline thesentinel

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Re: Looking for gaming keyboard
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 04 May 2014, 23:04:58 »
Who needs polling rate and macro keys? Just get a high quality keyboard. A good keyboard is the CM storm quickfire and it's cheap. Comes in mx red, blue, brown, black and green.
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Offline MasterBash

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Re: Looking for gaming keyboard
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 04 May 2014, 23:21:32 »
I need macro keys, it saves me a lot of time in LoL instead of saying "warded" or anything like that. Even if I type it fast, the fact that the enemy team may make a mistake that I won't be able to capitalize on during the split second it takes to type it, is bad.

Polling rate is about peace of mind. Same with NKRO. Not required, not needed, but wanted.

Offline Cottonsox

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Re: Looking for gaming keyboard
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 04 May 2014, 23:28:07 »
You could use autohotkey to create macros, if you want to open up options to keyboards without the dedicated keys.

Offline MasterBash

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Re: Looking for gaming keyboard
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 04 May 2014, 23:30:21 »
Oh thanks, I will look at it!

I play competitively and make money off gaming. That program will not be allowed in tournaments. I do know the results will depend on my skill level more than anything else, but I like to know that my gear cant and wont hold me back. Its about peace of mind more than results. It helps me sleep at night. ;D

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Re: Looking for gaming keyboard
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 05 May 2014, 00:02:13 »
The only thing that will perform like that is a POS Cherry board. However, those are large, and the completely insane number of programmable keys are not on the left. It does store everything onboard however. Has better NKRO support than at least some stuff. Generally comes in clears or browns only, but you can always put something else in them.

It uses PS/2 which is interrupt based, and that is automatically faster than anything polling based ever could be.
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Re: Looking for gaming keyboard
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 05 May 2014, 00:06:11 »
Oh thanks, I will look at it!

I play competitively and make money off gaming. That program will not be allowed in tournaments. I do know the results will depend on my skill level more than anything else, but I like to know that my gear cant and wont hold me back. Its about peace of mind more than results. It helps me sleep at night. ;D

I am a tad cunfused, any game played competitively such as league,  I would have thought uses voice comms... nullifying the macro you mentioned.


Offline MasterBash

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Re: Looking for gaming keyboard
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 05 May 2014, 00:24:33 »
Oh thanks, I will look at it!

I play competitively and make money off gaming. That program will not be allowed in tournaments. I do know the results will depend on my skill level more than anything else, but I like to know that my gear cant and wont hold me back. Its about peace of mind more than results. It helps me sleep at night. ;D

I am a tad cunfused, any game played competitively such as league,  I would have thought uses voice comms... nullifying the macro you mentioned.

Voice is only at tournaments. There is no voice in solo queue. Also, timers are important, with timestamp on and clicking the macro, you can tell when the ward will be down. Those are good to communicate to your jungler so he doesnt waste time in your lane or find another path or clear it or something.

Offline MasterBash

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Re: Looking for gaming keyboard
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 05 May 2014, 00:29:22 »
The only thing that will perform like that is a POS Cherry board. However, those are large, and the completely insane number of programmable keys are not on the left. It does store everything onboard however. Has better NKRO support than at least some stuff. Generally comes in clears or browns only, but you can always put something else in them.

It uses PS/2 which is interrupt based, and that is automatically faster than anything polling based ever could be.

ya, my Maximus VI Formula does not support PS/2

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Re: Looking for gaming keyboard
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 05 May 2014, 00:58:18 »
Oh thanks, I will look at it!

I play competitively and make money off gaming. That program will not be allowed in tournaments. I do know the results will depend on my skill level more than anything else, but I like to know that my gear cant and wont hold me back. Its about peace of mind more than results. It helps me sleep at night. ;D

I am a tad cunfused, any game played competitively such as league,  I would have thought uses voice comms... nullifying the macro you mentioned.

Voice is only at tournaments. There is no voice in solo queue. Also, timers are important, with timestamp on and clicking the macro, you can tell when the ward will be down. Those are good to communicate to your jungler so he doesnt waste time in your lane or find another path or clear it or something.

Is that type of macro allowed in tournaments [the timer one]? I was under the impression that extra macros and stuff in general weren't allowed...?

Offline MasterBash

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Re: Looking for gaming keyboard
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 05 May 2014, 01:04:02 »
Oh thanks, I will look at it!

I play competitively and make money off gaming. That program will not be allowed in tournaments. I do know the results will depend on my skill level more than anything else, but I like to know that my gear cant and wont hold me back. Its about peace of mind more than results. It helps me sleep at night. ;D

I am a tad cunfused, any game played competitively such as league,  I would have thought uses voice comms... nullifying the macro you mentioned.

Voice is only at tournaments. There is no voice in solo queue. Also, timers are important, with timestamp on and clicking the macro, you can tell when the ward will be down. Those are good to communicate to your jungler so he doesnt waste time in your lane or find another path or clear it or something.

Is that type of macro allowed in tournaments [the timer one]? I was under the impression that extra macros and stuff in general weren't allowed...?

If you are talking about LCS, then no. However you are free to use any macros for online play such as solo queue or the online challenger series.

Offline thesentinel

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Re: Looking for gaming keyboard
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 05 May 2014, 01:21:32 »
I don't know much about competitive LoL, but wouldn't a tactile switch work better since it's not a fast paced FPS?
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Offline MasterBash

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Re: Looking for gaming keyboard
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 05 May 2014, 01:49:01 »
I don't know much about competitive LoL, but wouldn't a tactile switch work better since it's not a fast paced FPS?

What does tactile bring? That bumpy feeling? Or knowing when the activation has been done? I usually become stressed in close battle, so I bottom out the key, I dont think tactile keyboard would change anything here in my case? So shouldnt I just go with the keys that are easier to press?

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Re: Looking for gaming keyboard
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 05 May 2014, 04:35:02 »
In my opinion on gaming keyboard, after i tried FPS game with red switch, it will do better for fast peek other than that everything will be good enough. For playing Dota2 or Hon i prefer using clicky keyboard so that i can't double click on my item or something like that. haha
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Offline Sagii

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Re: Looking for gaming keyboard
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 05 May 2014, 05:27:01 »
Oh thanks, I will look at it!

I play competitively and make money off gaming. That program will not be allowed in tournaments. I do know the results will depend on my skill level more than anything else, but I like to know that my gear cant and wont hold me back. Its about peace of mind more than results. It helps me sleep at night. ;D

I am a tad cunfused, any game played competitively such as league,  I would have thought uses voice comms... nullifying the macro you mentioned.

Voice is only at tournaments. There is no voice in solo queue. Also, timers are important, with timestamp on and clicking the macro, you can tell when the ward will be down. Those are good to communicate to your jungler so he doesnt waste time in your lane or find another path or clear it or something.

Is that type of macro allowed in tournaments [the timer one]? I was under the impression that extra macros and stuff in general weren't allowed...?

If you are talking about LCS, then no. However you are free to use any macros for online play such as solo queue or the online challenger series.

So you're in the Challenger series ? :) Which team are you playing for? And do you actually make money from being in the online challenger series? Thought u had to be in the LCS before you got paid by Riot.  Or do you mean you're making money off of online tournaments etc. organised by others than Riot?  Anyway, I'd go with something else than reds when playing LoL etc.. I can see why you'd like something with very little resistance, but in games like LoL you'll be very prone to activating abilities without wanting to (in my experience at least).. Hitting D when you only intended to hit E is kinda fatal...

That is MY opinion though. I only had reds for a week or so before returning the KB, but I see a lot of people talking warmly about reds/blacks
« Last Edit: Mon, 05 May 2014, 05:29:04 by Sagii »

Offline MasterBash

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Re: Looking for gaming keyboard
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 05 May 2014, 07:36:39 »
Oh thanks, I will look at it!

I play competitively and make money off gaming. That program will not be allowed in tournaments. I do know the results will depend on my skill level more than anything else, but I like to know that my gear cant and wont hold me back. Its about peace of mind more than results. It helps me sleep at night. ;D

I am a tad cunfused, any game played competitively such as league,  I would have thought uses voice comms... nullifying the macro you mentioned.

Voice is only at tournaments. There is no voice in solo queue. Also, timers are important, with timestamp on and clicking the macro, you can tell when the ward will be down. Those are good to communicate to your jungler so he doesnt waste time in your lane or find another path or clear it or something.

Is that type of macro allowed in tournaments [the timer one]? I was under the impression that extra macros and stuff in general weren't allowed...?

If you are talking about LCS, then no. However you are free to use any macros for online play such as solo queue or the online challenger series.

So you're in the Challenger series ? :) Which team are you playing for? And do you actually make money from being in the online challenger series? Thought u had to be in the LCS before you got paid by Riot.  Or do you mean you're making money off of online tournaments etc. organised by others than Riot?  Anyway, I'd go with something else than reds when playing LoL etc.. I can see why you'd like something with very little resistance, but in games like LoL you'll be very prone to activating abilities without wanting to (in my experience at least).. Hitting D when you only intended to hit E is kinda fatal...

That is MY opinion though. I only had reds for a week or so before returning the KB, but I see a lot of people talking warmly about reds/blacks

Yes, challenger series. I don't talk about my team or my stream on forums because I wish to keep my "personal life" (what I do outside of gaming) and my "job" (what I do in-game, although I dont make a living off of that). When I play, I try to keep a more professional approach, compared to what I could say or do outside of the game, kind of like any professionals in sports or business men that try to say the right things during an interview or something to give a positive image of themselves. I am in no way saying I am an ******* in real life, its quite the opposite in fact, I am very funny apparently, but there are ways to act if I can say it like that... About the money, there is a small prize pool for playing in the challenge series, but not anywhere enough to make a living off of it. It is a fun thing to me, because I really like to compete, I always try to improve myself, but there is a limit when it comes to LoL (now), I am not willing to practice SO many hours to get in the LCS (it was my goal previously, but not anymore), simply because you cant make a career playing games. People retire at a young age and they have to go back to school or work. Sure, many people earn a lot of money, but for only a few years. Personally, I hire people to develop mobile apps for me and thats how I make a living, which is way more than I could hope for if I were to play in LCS.

EDIT: Just to make things clear, we practice a lot, but I have other things in life too outside of the game. I try my best everytime I play, but like I said, I don't wanna play 12 hours a day as if LoL was the ONLY thing in my life like LCS players, since thats all they have to do and they can make a living off of it until they retire. It works out for everyone since my teammates go to school... In fact, I am sure that how it goes for most of the teams, since they have to make money to live somehow... However, if we were to make it to LCS, I would give up my spot to someone who can dedicate their life to the game. Unfortunately, I can't and I don't want to.
« Last Edit: Mon, 05 May 2014, 07:47:25 by MasterBash »

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Re: Looking for gaming keyboard
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 05 May 2014, 07:53:01 »
TKL with left side macro keys are pretty rare...

There's the Monoprice Pro, better known as the Dearmo Blade:


I suppose you could also use an Azio Mech5 without the number pad, but it'd be a little bit pointless, since that keyboard is enormous even with the number pad removed. And the switches in that are Blacks, which might be too heavy for you...
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Re: Looking for gaming keyboard
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 05 May 2014, 08:08:39 »
Oh thanks, I will look at it!

I play competitively and make money off gaming. That program will not be allowed in tournaments. I do know the results will depend on my skill level more than anything else, but I like to know that my gear cant and wont hold me back. Its about peace of mind more than results. It helps me sleep at night. ;D

I am a tad cunfused, any game played competitively such as league,  I would have thought uses voice comms... nullifying the macro you mentioned.

Voice is only at tournaments. There is no voice in solo queue. Also, timers are important, with timestamp on and clicking the macro, you can tell when the ward will be down. Those are good to communicate to your jungler so he doesnt waste time in your lane or find another path or clear it or something.

Is that type of macro allowed in tournaments [the timer one]? I was under the impression that extra macros and stuff in general weren't allowed...?

If you are talking about LCS, then no. However you are free to use any macros for online play such as solo queue or the online challenger series.

So you're in the Challenger series ? :) Which team are you playing for? And do you actually make money from being in the online challenger series? Thought u had to be in the LCS before you got paid by Riot.  Or do you mean you're making money off of online tournaments etc. organised by others than Riot?  Anyway, I'd go with something else than reds when playing LoL etc.. I can see why you'd like something with very little resistance, but in games like LoL you'll be very prone to activating abilities without wanting to (in my experience at least).. Hitting D when you only intended to hit E is kinda fatal...

That is MY opinion though. I only had reds for a week or so before returning the KB, but I see a lot of people talking warmly about reds/blacks

Yes, challenger series. I don't talk about my team or my stream on forums because I wish to keep my "personal life" (what I do outside of gaming) and my "job" (what I do in-game, although I dont make a living off of that). When I play, I try to keep a more professional approach, compared to what I could say or do outside of the game, kind of like any professionals in sports or business men that try to say the right things during an interview or something to give a positive image of themselves. I am in no way saying I am an ******* in real life, its quite the opposite in fact, I am very funny apparently, but there are ways to act if I can say it like that... About the money, there is a small prize pool for playing in the challenge series, but not anywhere enough to make a living off of it. It is a fun thing to me, because I really like to compete, I always try to improve myself, but there is a limit when it comes to LoL (now), I am not willing to practice SO many hours to get in the LCS (it was my goal previously, but not anymore), simply because you cant make a career playing games. People retire at a young age and they have to go back to school or work. Sure, many people earn a lot of money, but for only a few years. Personally, I hire people to develop mobile apps for me and thats how I make a living, which is way more than I could hope for if I were to play in LCS.

EDIT: Just to make things clear, we practice a lot, but I have other things in life too outside of the game. I try my best everytime I play, but like I said, I don't wanna play 12 hours a day as if LoL was the ONLY thing in my life like LCS players, since thats all they have to do and they can make a living off of it until they retire. It works out for everyone since my teammates go to school... In fact, I am sure that how it goes for most of the teams, since they have to make money to live somehow... However, if we were to make it to LCS, I would give up my spot to someone who can dedicate their life to the game. Unfortunately, I can't and I don't want to.

Ah, okey! Not trying to put you against the wall or anything, was just wondering :) Didn't know there was a price pool playing in Challenger ^^'
Good luck with your search for the best possible KB!


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Re: Looking for gaming keyboard
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 05 May 2014, 10:02:11 »
TKL with left side macro keys are pretty rare...

There's the Monoprice Pro, better known as the Dearmo Blade:
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I suppose you could also use an Azio Mech5 without the number pad, but it'd be a little bit pointless, since that keyboard is enormous even with the number pad removed. And the switches in that are Blacks, which might be too heavy for you...

I have to say, that Monoprice looks ideal. Red switches, macro keys, TKL, volume adjust. I'd get one with Browns, personally, since I find the tactility really helps me even though it's minimal.
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