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Offline Roner

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Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« on: Sat, 05 July 2014, 05:07:56 »
Hello guys new to this forum my friend told me about it along time ago and he owns a kbc poker II. I am wondering what mods i can do to my majestouch the only thing i know of are basically o rings
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 05 July 2014, 05:56:34 »
Welcome to Geekhack!

Custom keycaps.

O-rings or silicone balls.

Landing pads.

Replacement springs.

Replacement switch tops (coloured or transparent).

Replacement controller (programmable).

Detachable cable mod.

Custom case.

That should get you started :p
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 05 July 2014, 06:02:42 »
Whats the best thing to replace on a filco first? and thanks for welcoming me
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 05 July 2014, 06:06:07 »
Tnat's like asking what's the best part to replace in a car if you want to make it look cool.
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 05 July 2014, 06:32:00 »
Fair enough Ive been googling around i cant seem to find a 104 key case for a majestouch 2 are there any custom ones people sell on here?
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 05 July 2014, 11:00:37 »
I don't think there are any. You can ask Sprit if a Filco would fit one of his cases.
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 05 July 2014, 11:15:11 »
The first upgrade I would suggest to anyone with a Filco is to get new keycaps. The cheap ABS keys are, IMO, the only true weak point on Filco boards. Get yourself a nice set of thick PBT or thick ABS keys and it will improve the feel your keyboard by an order of magnitude.

It sounds like you've got a full-size keyboard, another upgrade you might want to consider is changing out the stock plate for something like this stainless steel one that would allow for switch top removal without desoldering. This would allow you to change stem types (red, blue, clear, etc), change springs, lubricate, etc. with ease.
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 05 July 2014, 16:52:24 »
get yourself some GMK

and a new cable, mine is starting to go after about a year
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 05 July 2014, 17:35:13 »
If i were to go to that plate would i have to desolder everything and switch it out?
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 05 July 2014, 17:40:39 »
Every switch, yes.
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 05 July 2014, 20:05:53 »
Filco replacement cases: http://www.diatec.co.jp/shop/kobo/

Switch keycaps first - easiest mod, and you can even make a keycap removal tool yourself, or buy one from the many available.

If you like red switches, stay with them for now and don't worry about switching the plate.  If you want to experiment with changing switches and/or switch internals, then you are up to desolder every switch, in which case you are probably serious about modding the keyboard, then do consider the plate shown above.
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 05 July 2014, 23:04:47 »
Would anyone like keyboard company desolder everything and replace plate and resolder? and what are good keycap companies or websites?
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 00:03:49 »
Quote from: Roner on Sat, 05 July 2014, 23:04:47
Would anyone like keyboard company desolder everything and replace plate and resolder? and what are good keycap companies or websites?

If you are asking about The Keyboard company, chances are you are in the UK (please advise otherwise).

Recommended: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50048.0
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 00:19:53 »
No i am not in the UK sadly. I live in canada would there be any other good places for key caps?
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 03:31:19 »
I'll let the Canadians speak up ;) I think most of them just order keycaps from the US.
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 05:05:16 »
Sifo lives in Canada and does some modding for people: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57166.0
And for keycaps just use the US or Asian vendors, you can find a list here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45672.0
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 05:53:15 »
And for more of the novelty ones what are good websites?
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 06:14:30 »
Quote from: Roner on Sun, 06 July 2014, 05:53:15
And for more of the novelty ones what are good websites?

You can find some in the artisan subforum. Binge also has his own website: http://bingecap.com/
Some keycap vendors also offer novelty keycaps.
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 06:21:50 »
Ok thanks for helping guys! By the way do o rings and landing pads at the same time work?
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 06:29:17 »
@Roner First thing you need is a keycap puller. There are people who say you can use a paper clip, or all kind of other stuff, and in fact I once used two pastry forks as levers. But that is no fun, and you can damage your keycaps. Get a keycap puller and play around with it. Next thing you want to have is a programmable controller, so that you can change your keyboard layout freely. The only controller available for your Filco is “Pegasus hoof”. Then, you want an application to program your Pegasus Hoof, download “Easy AVR USB Keyboard Firmware Keymapper”. Then you want to change your keycaps, order some keycaps of your taste. The o ring mod is a nice experience too, but I don’t recommend it, forget it.
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 06:38:49 »
Yeah my filco came with a key cap puller. i have figured out basically all the stuff i want but why would i want to have a programmable controller? just wondering whats wrong with the stock one
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 06:41:24 »
Quote from: Roner on Sun, 06 July 2014, 06:38:49
Yeah my filco came with a key cap puller. i have figured out basically all the stuff i want but why would i want to have a programmable controller? just wondering whats wrong with the stock one

There's nothing wrong with the stock one but you can reprogram your keyboard layout or add some macros and similar stuff on the hardware level, meaning that it will keep those macros even if you attach it to a different computer.
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 09:19:08 »
If you have Filco 104 and want a programmable controller you have to get the one called "Kitten Paw" and not "Pegasus Hoof" as this is the one for Filco 87/88.

I would really go for such a controller. It will give you media keys, complete hardware level remapping and layers. I own a filco 104 with reds myself, this is a really solid board. Another thing I did was lubing the switches, that improves cherry mx reds a lot.
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 09:45:40 »
This is my modded filco 104. I hope you like it.

Modded cable
Lubed switches
Ninja case (no gold filco logo and red leds)
Original Cherry white on black double shots with moogle kit.
Kitten Paw controller
TMK firmware with media keys and layers

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« Last Edit: Sun, 06 July 2014, 11:51:33 by xauser »
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 11:02:50 »
where did you get 1.25 mods for WoB?
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Re: Filco Majestouch 2 red switches
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 11:51:19 »
Quote from: TacticalStache on Sun, 06 July 2014, 11:02:50
where did you get 1.25 mods for WoB?

This is from the moogle kit group buy that hashbaz did some day.
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