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Offline watduzhkstand4

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« on: Fri, 12 June 2009, 16:53:03 »
Built this for $450 *STABLE


Then I got bored one day.
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Cherry Red Noppoo Choc Mini
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SOLD
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Offline cchan

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« Reply #1 on: Fri, 12 June 2009, 17:32:41 »
IBM ThinkPad X60 1706-5DU.
Intel Core Duo 1.86 (iirc) GHz at stock.
2.5GB DDR2 SDRAM.
60GB hard drive.
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950.

Hey, it gets done what I need it to get done.
HP Envy17: Core i7-2760QM, 8GB DDR3, 128GB Crucial m4 + 750GB Hitachi, Windows 7 Home Premium x64, Cherry ML4100, Logitech M500, HP zr22w
IBM Thinkpad X60: Core Duo T2400, 2GB DDR2, 128GB Samsung 830, Xubuntu 12.04 x86, Cherry ML4100, Logitech M205, HP zr22w
Raspberry Pi Model B: BCM2835, 0.25GB DDR2, 8GB Samsung SD card, Raspbian Wheezy, human interaction devices as above

Offline Manyak

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« Reply #2 on: Fri, 12 June 2009, 17:37:28 »
My rig is just a bunch of spare parts I had put together. I didn't have a rig for a while, but when my girlfriend upgraded her motherboard so she left me with an M2N-SLI. So I dug through my parts closet for everything else, took the CPU out of my HTPC (AMD 4850e) and that's what I'm using.

By the end of the summer I'll have a new PC though - gonna put one together when I get back from my trip.


Here's a pic of it anyway:

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Filco FKBN104MC/EB - Model M 1390131 \'86 - Model M 1391401 NIB - Unicomp Endurapro NIB - iRocks KR-6230 - Compaq MX-11800 - Cherry G80-8113HRBUS-2 - Cherry ML-4100 - Cherry MY-8000-something - Dell AT101W (Black) - ABS M1 - Siig Minitouch - Chicony KB-5181 w/ SMK Montereys - Chicony KB-5181 w/ SMK Montereys NIB - Cherry G80-3494LYCUS-2 - Deck Legend

Offline huha

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« Reply #3 on: Fri, 12 June 2009, 17:50:01 »
IBM Thinkpad Z60m 2529-FKG
Pentium-M 760, 2 GHz (no dual core, which is about the only drawback of this machine)
2 GiB RAM (okay, the other drawback)
500 GB HDD (+ 500 external fixed and 160 portable)
Radeon X600 mobility

Plus a dock to use it as a DTR. Thanks to the dedicated graphics, it's able to drive both connected monitors, which is quite pleasant.

-huha
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Offline FunkTrooper

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« Reply #4 on: Fri, 12 June 2009, 18:14:18 »
My desktop PC is as follows...

Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.4 GHz)
4 GB DDR2 RAM
GeForce 8800GTS 640 MB
500 + 640 GB HDDs
Asus P5N-e SLI motherboard

Offline wheel83

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« Reply #5 on: Fri, 12 June 2009, 19:47:32 »
QX6600
two 8800 GT
4g Corsair Ram
150Gb WD Raptor
320Gb WD Raptor
Steampunk Case (partly showin in my avatar)

running windows 7 excellently
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Offline D-EJ915

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« Reply #6 on: Fri, 12 June 2009, 21:29:59 »

Offline bigpook

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« Reply #7 on: Fri, 12 June 2009, 21:33:52 »
Quote from: D-EJ915;95878
my main desktop
I use this one in class


That sun ultra 20 is pretty sweet.
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Offline D-EJ915

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« Reply #8 on: Fri, 12 June 2009, 21:38:31 »
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That sun ultra 20 is pretty sweet.

yeah Sun definitely got it right with their latest case designs

http://photos.sun.com/page/214/products.jsp

Offline watduzhkstand4

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« Reply #9 on: Fri, 12 June 2009, 21:39:15 »
@ manyak

Nice window mod for your 900 and I really like the tint of red
KEYBOARDS
Cherry Blue *Filco Tenkeyless w/ blank keys* w/ red ESC key thanks to Megarat
Cherry Red Noppoo Choc Mini
IBM Model M 1391401 12/15/88
Siig Minitouch w/ White Alps


SOLD
HHKB Pro 2 white w/ blank keys red ESC key and blank WASD keys
HHKB L-2
Cherry Brown Compaq mx11800
Dell AT101W
Cherry Red Leopold 104-key Otaku FC500RR/ABN

Offline Manyak

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« Reply #10 on: Fri, 12 June 2009, 21:54:12 »
Quote from: watduzhkstand4;95883
@ manyak

Nice window mod for your 900 and I really like the tint of red


Thanks :)
Currently Owned:
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Offline Mr.6502

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« Reply #11 on: Fri, 12 June 2009, 22:01:34 »
For programming/gaming (and for low temps and quiet running):
E8500 (Stock 3.16 GHz)
Radeon HD 4870 1gb
4gb OCZ
2 x 1TB drives in RAID 1
CoolerMaster case.
Vista SP1 64

For web browsing (and to give to my Mom soon)

Atom 230 mini-itx Intel board (D945GCLF)
Using onboard graphics, sound and LAN.
1GB Corsair
160GB HDD
Winsis mini itx case w/ 200W power supply.
XP Pro SP3

For programming XNA and running a few games and emulators on the road:

Dell Inspiron 6000
Pentium M 1.6 GHz
2GB RAM
160GB HDD
Ati Mobility Radeon x300

^ This thing started to fall apart way too soon :-(
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Offline zwmalone

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« Reply #12 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 03:15:29 »
Intel Pentium 4 630 "Prescott" 3.0 @ 3.8 LGA775
1GB (2x 512MB) DDR400 2.5v  2-3-2-5, pulled from some IBM server...
MSI 915PL Neo-V -horrible motherboard but not planning on replacing it until I replace it all...
ATI Radeon x700 XT, PCIe x16, 128MB, overclocked via ATIflash
Creative SoundBlaster Live! 5.1 PCI
200GB SeaGate 7200.10 SATA150
320GB Western Digital Caviar SE16D, SATA300
LiteOn 20x DVD+RW
ThermalTake Swing
500W Rosewill (Say what you want, it's just as heavy as the 400W PCP&C unit it replaced) w/ 34a on the main rail
Omnikey Evolution + Logitech Trackman Wheel
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Can't get enough of them ALPS

Offline keyb_gr

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« Reply #13 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 07:24:06 »
My main rig looks like this:

2x PIII-667@500E (w/ passive coolers for, I think, Socket 7 originally) on modded MSI 6905 Master v2.3
Asus P2B-D rev. 1.06 PCBA D03
1 GiB SDRAM (4x Infineon 256 MiB PC133 CL3/CL2)
Sapphire Radeon 9000 AGP (the real deal with a 128 bit memory bus, not a lame SE - as if that made any difference in 2D)
Promise Ultra100 TX2 with
Hitachi Deskstar T7K250 (250 GB, main drive, suspended), Samsung SV0802N (80 GB, backup)
2x Terratec Aureon Sky (one reflashed to Audiotrak Prodigy 7.1)
Intel Pro/100 S Desktop NIC
Terratec Base1 ISA sound card just for the heck of it (it's not like there would be that many uses for ISA slots these days)
LG GSA-H42N@H44N (one of the last decent DVD burners they made, the new ones with different numbering seem to be noisy junk) on onboard IDE
All powered by a ginormous 110 watt (but honestly spec'd) Astec PSU - it came with the Siemens Xpert case the system resides in. I should brush out the dust again one of these days.
There's an Arctic Cooling 80 mm fan blowing out in front if the primary drive, which sits decoupled on the DVD.
Model M + Logitech M-BJ59.
Samsung Syncmaster 191T.

In 2003/2004 I went through a number of boards (from GA-586DX over P2L-DS - which I still have, as opposed to the 300A PPGA Celerons - to finally said P2B-D), but since the T7K250 4 years ago, the system has not seen many upgrades. I finally maxed out the memory last year, which made working with my then-newly-acquired (used) nice A3 scanner a more relaxed affair.
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Offline huha

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« Reply #14 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 09:36:49 »
What OS are you using? Seems like a good computer for running NT5.

-huha
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Offline keyb_gr

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« Reply #15 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 13:09:40 »
Add .2, and you're there. My other comps are running on 2000 though. (Nothing above 1 GHz.) Only my parents have a notebook that came with Vista 32-bit (has been pretty much trouble-free, save for Explorer crashing when you try drag'n'dropping things into some folder in My Documents - I have to try that again, maybe they fixed it in SP2).

Should get a few XP licenses at some point. Whoever split up the control panel applets into a thousand pieces in Vista (poor old display properties) should be fired instantly, and in 7 they even did away with the classic start menu. Keeps you wondering what the UI folks are smoking.
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Offline ironcoder

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« Reply #16 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 13:38:25 »
Why are so many people running Quads? I thought Winbloze and winapps didn't exploit even two processors very well.
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Offline bigpook

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« Reply #17 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 13:40:33 »
I got an AMD quad because it was cheap. And I am running linux on it.
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Offline o2dazone

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« Reply #18 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 13:59:03 »
Quote from: ironcoder;96026
Why are so many people running Quads? I thought Winbloze and winapps didn't exploit even two processors very well.


Must be a lot of 3d artists :P

I opted for a beef two core (3.2ghz) and 4gb of ram, while my graphics card is gobbling up 896mb of that addressable memory, I can only use 3.1gb of that - I refuse to switch to 64 bit platform until they get their usability issues worked out. (I have a 64 bit machine with 20gb of ram LOL and yeah...compatibility issues out the ass. I hate it).

Waiting for the price to drop on SSD's...

Offline Hak Foo

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« Reply #19 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 14:21:04 »
I honestly got "bored" with the E6750/P35 setup I used to use.  I got an E7200 (free prize in contest), and after overclocking it to 4.0 long enough to take a screenshot of CPU-Z, what do you do then?

The local shop was offering "one-day-only, Phenom 9950s for $130" or something, so I figured that made it worth it to jump ship.  Actually, funny story, but it all went wrong (they didn't actually have any 9950s except a returned one that had been spackled with nine gallons of Arctic Silver) so I ended up buying a more expensive one with a cheap motherboard online, and then replacing the motherboard because I hated it, and the CPU when the same local shop had a "one-day-only, 940s for $180" special (which they had)
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Offline huha

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« Reply #20 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 14:41:14 »
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Why are so many people running Quads? I thought Winbloze and winapps didn't exploit even two processors very well.


That's a myth. Maybe created by some overzealous Linux or Apple fanboy, but given a halfway decent operating system (read: Linux, OS X, Windows, BSD flavours), SMP performance gain relies entirely on the user. If you're doing single-threaded stuff all day long, you won't profit from a quad over a dualcore (you won't even profit much from a dualcore). If, however, you like to use dozens of programs more or less simultaneously, more CPU power (and, almost more importantly, more CPUs, be they virtual (HTT) or physical) can't hurt. It's only in special situations when performance will only be used for a single program (i.e. rendering, processing data etc.) where program architecture and requirement should be taken into consideration. For rendering, which can be broken into parts quite easily, more CPUs with less clock speed are typically better than less CPUs with higher clock speed. For data processing applications, which often can't multi-thread due to algorithms used, you're best adviced to get the fastest CPU you can find, cores don't matter.

For everyday work, I'd buy a quad. More often than not, it's not sheer performance that counts, but rather smoothness. Take Intel's Atom, for example. The Atom is painfully slow (low clock speed, and the in-order architecture doesn't exactly contribute to high performance), but feels quite nice nonetheless, even better than a non-SMT/SMP CPU of slightly higher clock frequency. Why? One word: HTT.
Performance, however, is still worse than our imaginary reference CPU, but it will feel better for everyday work and not painfully slow at all.

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Offline o2dazone

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« Reply #21 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 14:54:18 »
Windows does take advantage, but a lot of applications are still written for single and dual core threading. I prefer that if I do one thing, it'll be as fast as possible (gaming). If I was big into multitasking (real multitasking, like rendering video, compiling code, idling torrents all while editing RAW uncompressed photos) I would definitely switch to a quad core (hell, why not a dual quad core)


edit: err...what huha said

Offline huha

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« Reply #22 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 14:56:47 »
You're most likely multitasking even when just surfing the web. Windows runs dozens of services and other programs can also profit. Some programs completely occupy the CPU when loading data, so you'll experience a short "hang" on non-SMP/SMT machines.

-huha
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Offline ironcoder

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« Reply #23 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 16:20:51 »
None of what you guys said convinces me Winbloze really does any better with quads. Obviously there is some benefit from having x times the number of cycles available from one core, but unless you do a direct comparison on a per GHz level you can't know what's happening unless you happen to be a Windows kernel developer. huha and o2dazone are saying pretty much what I read which is Winbloze apps are just not designed to exploit multiple cores.

Right now I am running Slackware 32 bit on a Dual Core box and Slamd64, FreeBSD AMD64, Solaris 10 x64, and once in a while OpenBSD AMD64 on Core 2 Duo boxes. I cannot say for sure that I am getting any better performance or responsiveness on my Core 2 Duos than I would get if I could get a 6 GHZ single core for example. I had a few single core boxes and they were just as reponsive under load as my dualies. I'm not saying they were as fast, but they were just as responsive.

I think Solaris is about the only x86 OS commonly available that really exploits multiple cores. It does not behave all that well on my Core 2 Duos. I will try a Sparc next or a Quad and see if it does any better.

In my job we have had multi engine machines for a long time (I think maybe 30 years) and there's dramatic improvement in performance in multithreaded apps. But the threading model was always part of the OS and we very, very infrequently create a new address space to do anything.  I think it's exactly the opposite in  UNIX  because historically they always forked rather than thread so it may be a long time until multiple cores are exploited as fully as they could be on NIX. Windows I don't really care about, I don't use it. I was just assuming that most of the guys who posted they're using Quads are also running Win.

Thanks for all the comments guys.
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Offline Mr.6502

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« Reply #24 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 20:51:32 »
Windows apps can be designed to exploit multiple cores.  The general attitude of those that say multiple cores don't help Windows seems to come from using Windows apps that are not designed for multiple cores.  

For instance, doing complex tasks in Photoshop CS3 doesn't really benefit from having more than 1 core.  That's because Adobe didn't program it to take advantage of multiple cores on Vista (not sure what the performance is like on Mac since I don't have one).  However if Photoshop is doing something CPU intensive, the more cores you have, the more access your other processes have to CPU time.  

But then rendering in 3dsmax on Vista, if you go from 2 core to 4 core you get just a little less than double the performance because its pretty well optimized for dual core.

This depends on the version of Window you are using as well.  Programs I've written that do intensive data access through ADO, for instance, get a bigger performance boost on Vista than on XP when quad core is compared to dual core.  

So far Windows 7 seems about the same as Vista.
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Offline Hak Foo

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« Reply #25 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 22:26:17 »
To me, the big benefit is going 1 core to 2, because it reduces 'blocking'-- if you have a process hang and seize all available CPU time on one core, the other carries on.  It also tends to improve responsive feel (if one task is loading the CPU heavily, there's good odds the other will be on a second core and be snappy still).

I had a socket 939 3200+ I was fairly satisfied with until I started working in an office which had (the original round of, soon nearly destroyed) HP Turion X2 laptops.  They just didn't bind the same way, so I had to quickly waddle off and get one of the last reasonably-priced S939 duals out there.
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Offline Manyak

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« Reply #26 on: Sun, 14 June 2009, 00:12:20 »
Quote from: keyb_gr;96020
Add .2, and you're there. My other comps are running on 2000 though. (Nothing above 1 GHz.) Only my parents have a notebook that came with Vista 32-bit (has been pretty much trouble-free, save for Explorer crashing when you try drag'n'dropping things into some folder in My Documents - I have to try that again, maybe they fixed it in SP2).

Should get a few XP licenses at some point. Whoever split up the control panel applets into a thousand pieces in Vista (poor old display properties) should be fired instantly, and in 7 they even did away with the classic start menu.
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Keeps you wondering what the UI folks are smoking.


You can actually put the Display Properties and Network Connections icons back into the control panel through a registry hack. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/restore-missing-items-in-windows-vista-control-panel/
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Offline ironcoder

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« Reply #27 on: Sun, 14 June 2009, 05:33:16 »
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No doubt the bang for buck is single to dual.  Right now we're arguing Dual vs Quad.  Probably soon we'll be arguing Quad vs Octal.  By then SW will take advantage of dual core.

Sigh.

LOL yeah it could be like that. I really think the chip makers got ahead of themselves with 64 bit chips. That is also not being exploited very much. But try to buy a high performance multicore x86 (32 bit) desktop chip today and you don't have many choices.

Usually software pushes the hardware. But for some reason in this case the hardware is pushing the software and marketing is king. My 32 bit Slackware box runs like a scalded cat.
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« Reply #28 on: Sun, 14 June 2009, 05:34:06 »
Quote from: ripster;96121

What I take out of all this is:
1) Why not get a quad if it costs only a few bucks more.  
2) You're not gonna get much faster dual cores anyway in the next 3 years.
3) Never believe the marketing departments or product specs.  

Of course you know the last one already.


1) Heat dissipation. The Quads are a lot more power hungry than the Duals. This could make a difference in certain circumstances and you need more cooling and more power supply. Ok, that gives you an excuse for a nice new pump and plumbing, etc. So even if the chip itself isn't much more (and it is usually significantly more) then the other stuff you need also jacks up the price of a new box. Now if you want the cool factor then knock yourself out! I never criticize anybody who believes more and bigger is never enough ;) That alone is valid in my book!

2) I honestly don't know but I think there's room. Especially since most of the apps aren't design to exploit tasking and since tasking is still a newish form of multiprocessing for x86 based computing I think more HP per core and more RAM is a better value than more cores now and probably will continue like that for the next 3-5 years or more.

3) Yeah buddy!
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Offline Manyak

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« Reply #29 on: Sun, 14 June 2009, 07:08:16 »
Quote from: ironcoder;96184
1) Heat dissipation. The Quads are a lot more power hungry than the Duals. This could make a difference in certain circumstances and you need more cooling and more power supply. Ok, that gives you an excuse for a nice new pump and plumbing, etc. So even if the chip itself isn't much more (and it is usually significantly more) then the other stuff you need also jacks up the price of a new box. Now if you want the cool factor then knock yourself out! I never criticize anybody who believes more and bigger is never enough ;) That alone is valid in my book!

You do realize that absolutely any case made today is just fine for housing a quad? Going from a dual core to quad core isn't the same as going from a 500MHz PIII to a 3GHz Prescott. Up until the P4 all PC cases had very little ventilation, really because there was no need for it - so when you got a P4, if you stuck with the same case you got screwed. But this is entirely not the case with going from a dual to a quad. Seriously, show me a single ATX case on newegg.com right now that won't allow a quad to stay cool.

As for the power supply - if you need to upgrade your PSU because 2 extra cores overloads it, then you needed to upgrade your PSU anyway because it would have died soon. The thing is that you should make sure that your components' power draw is between 25% and 75% of your PSU's max at all times (both idle and full load). Too low or too high makes the PSU run inefficiently, decreasing it's lifespan.

Now, lets say that you're running a standard desktop PC with no GPU and one or two HDDs, and lets say an E5200 as a CPU. Your total power consumption will be somewhere around 60W idle, 100W full load. This means you should use a PSU that is at least 240W to make sure that the idle consumption is at least 25% of the PSU's power (who the hell's gonna have a PSU less than 240W anyway). Now, 75% of 240W is 180W (what your max should be) - which leaves you a whole 80W that you aren't using. Are two more cores suddenly going to double your entire PC's power consumption? I think not. And it's even easier when you already have a bigger PSU and a power hungry system because it's still a much smaller percentage increase overall.
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« Reply #30 on: Sun, 14 June 2009, 19:11:56 »
What computer do I have running? Let me count the ways.

The list is limited to the machines I can boot this minute without installing RAM or HD+OS. I.E: machines usable for meaningful work (Blue means daily use)
  • My primary desktop P4 Dual Core 2GHz - forgotten chipset- SLI GeForce 8600 GT
  • My secondary desktop Celeron 3 GHz - NVIDIA engineering sample nForce4 - GeForce 8600 GT
  • Spouse's desktop Athlon 64 6400 -Consumer ASUS nForce4 - GeForce 8600M GT
  • Music server/home theatre desktop Athlon 1700+ - nForce2 - GeForce 4 440
  • VMware server Dual Pentium III 1.0 GHz - Intel chipset - ATI Rage
  • Fanless MP3 server for automobile (in progress) VIA EVEm 800 MHz CPU - EDEN chipset with integrated ATI video
  • Fanless Print server (in progress) VIA EVEm 800 MHz CPU - EDEN chipset with integrated ATI video
  • My primary laptop Centrino Core 2 Duo 7250M - Intel 656 - SLI GeForce 8600M GT (Toshiba laptop)
  • My Tertiary desktop Dual G5 2 GHz - Power Macintosh - GeForce 6800 Ultra
  • My fourth desktop G3 500 MHz - Twentieth Anniversary Macintosh - ATI Rage Pro (internal) ATI Radeon 7000 (external)
  • My Secondary laptopG3 500 MHz - iBook "icebook" modded with Thermal Sheeting
  • Son's primary laptop G3 466 MHz - iBook Graphite clamshell, the most durable laptop ever made, short of the panasonic toughbooks.
Displays
  • My desk has a 19" Hanns G 1600×1200 display on a KVM and dual 15" 1024×768 Apple Studio Displays on the G5.
  • Wife uses a 19" Hanns G 1600x1200 display, or dual 15" 1024x768 gateway LCDs, depending on the way the wind blows and what projects I have running.
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« Reply #31 on: Sun, 14 June 2009, 19:18:20 »
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You can actually put the Display Properties and Network Connections icons back into the control panel through a registry hack. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/restore-missing-items-in-windows-vista-control-panel/

Hey thanks, I'll check that out. :)
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« Reply #32 on: Sun, 14 June 2009, 19:57:18 »
Between working for NVIDIA and VMware, and being the one to whom my friends donate their retired hardware, I collect quite the menagerie. There was a time when I had 14 daily driver operational machines (a server farm of 4 at the office and 4 at home were for work purposes). Fortunately the family learned early on to shut the machines down when not in use. A $200 electric bill was not permitted as a monthly expense.
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« Reply #33 on: Mon, 15 June 2009, 02:29:19 »
AMD Athlon 2600+ @ 2.3GHz
nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra
1GB of DDR
MIE 3.0 w/ Hyperglides on Icemat 2nd edition

...and soon

Filco Tenkeyless w/ Cherry Browns !

Don't really need a better PC for desktop use and some Quake + CS.

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« Reply #34 on: Wed, 17 June 2009, 11:25:07 »
Main Box

Case: Thermaltake Mozart Tx / 2x InLine (2x 5.25" -> 3x 3,5") adapters

Fans: 5x Noctua NFP12 fans @ 900RPM / 2x Noctua NF-R8-1800 fans @ 800RPM

PSU: Corsair TX650W

CPU: Intel Core2 Quad Q6600

RAM: 2x 2048MB / DDR800

Mobo: Asus P5K + SATA II RAID PCIe card

HDD01: 500GB Seagate Barracuda

HDD02: 500GB Seagate Barracuda

HDD03: 500GB Seagate Barracuda

HDD04: 300GB Seagate Barracuda

HDD05: 300GB Seagate Barracuda

HDD06: 300GB Seagate Barracuda

HDD07: 200GB Seagate Barracuda

HDD08: 200GB Seagate Barracuda

HDD09: 500GB Seagate Barracuda

HDD10: 500GB Seagate Barracuda

HDD11: 1000GB Seagate Barracuda

Video: Sapphire Radeon HD4870 VAPOR-X 2GB

Display: EIZO HD2442W / 24" / 1920x1200

DVB: TechniSat AirStar 2

Audio: Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio PCIe

Amp: Onkyo TX-SR 506

Speakers: 4x JBL Control One / Magnat BetaSub 25 A

Cans: Sony MDR 7506

DVD/Blu-Ray: LG GGCH20L

Mouse: Logitech G9 / IceMat

Keyboard: Filco Majestouch [Customized: Blue Cherry MX switches, N-Key rollover, blue LEDs]

Keypad: Cherry G84-4700 [Customized: Pictograms and keycaps]

Gamepad: Logitech RumblePad 2

Remote Control: QSonic 6in1

NAS: Fantec MR-35DRN

UPS: APC BR 800I RS

Printer: Canon Pixma iP5300

NET: 6MBit DSL / 100MBit LAN

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« Reply #35 on: Wed, 17 June 2009, 13:52:10 »
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Wait a second, just caught that one.  That's wicked.

Why? For the price its actually kinda decent...

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« Reply #36 on: Wed, 17 June 2009, 14:01:40 »
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Why? For the price its actually kinda decent...


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« Reply #37 on: Wed, 17 June 2009, 14:02:10 »
ripster is a faster poster than I am

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« Reply #38 on: Wed, 17 June 2009, 14:16:03 »
If you say wicked followed by something it sounds wicked retarded.

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« Reply #39 on: Wed, 17 June 2009, 14:21:34 »
I try not to say things that would sound better with a British accent like wicked and mate

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« Reply #40 on: Wed, 17 June 2009, 16:46:48 »
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I'm just saying it's an awfully nice amp for a PC setup...

Oh, I see... ^^

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« Reply #41 on: Thu, 18 June 2009, 12:19:26 »
What in living heck do you need eleven hard drives for? My ears pity yours.
HP Envy17: Core i7-2760QM, 8GB DDR3, 128GB Crucial m4 + 750GB Hitachi, Windows 7 Home Premium x64, Cherry ML4100, Logitech M500, HP zr22w
IBM Thinkpad X60: Core Duo T2400, 2GB DDR2, 128GB Samsung 830, Xubuntu 12.04 x86, Cherry ML4100, Logitech M205, HP zr22w
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« Reply #42 on: Thu, 18 June 2009, 12:21:53 »
Redundancy... I'm guessing at least a few of those are in a RAID setup...
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« Reply #43 on: Thu, 18 June 2009, 12:23:01 »
Redundancy is all well and good, but /eleven/?
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« Reply #44 on: Thu, 18 June 2009, 12:29:20 »
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Redundancy is all well and good, but /eleven/?


I agree eleven is alot, but not absurd... The PC I'm using now has 1x 200GB, 1x 120GB, 2x 320GB, 2x 40GB and 1x 3GB HDs...  They aren't all connected because I don't have enough SATA/IDE ports...
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« Reply #45 on: Thu, 18 June 2009, 12:41:13 »
Wow, what's on the three-gigger?

The most any operational PC in my house has atm is one. Two if you count the Sun box I'm too lazy to bring back up. But I do have this dual Xeon box with three and seven in an external casing, but it's not working.
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« Reply #46 on: Thu, 18 June 2009, 14:33:30 »
I am running a large assortment of computers, see list:


1.  Compaq Presario:
     180mhz Pentium MMX CPU
     1mb graphics
     80mb SDRAM PC100
     3.6 gig HD
     56x CD drive - really loud!!!
     Runs Windows NT 4.0

2.  Gateway Solo 5300 laptop:
     900mhz PIII CPU
     8mb graphics
     256mb SDRAM PC100
     10 gig HD
     DVD-CD-RW drive/CD drive/3.5 in. Floppy - one at a time
     Runs Windows 2000 pro

3.  Micron Clientpro CN:
     933mhz PIII CPU
     128mb graphics
     512mb SDRAM PC133
     20 gig HD
     CD-RW drive
     Broken CD drive - i use it as a patch
     3.5 in. Floppy
     Runs Windows 2000 pro

4. Dell Dimension 4100:
    933mhz PIII CPU
    128mb graphics
    384mb SDRAM PC133
    0 gig HD - one of my hardisks gave up the ghost
    DVD drive
    CD-RW drive
    3.5 in. Floppy
    No OS


5. Micron Transport GX+ laptop:
    1000MHZ PIII CPU
    16mb S3 Graphics
    256mb PC133 SDRAM
    20gig HDD
    CD/DVD combo
    3 1/2 floppy
    Runs Windows 2000 pro great
   
6. HP Pavillion DV6105us laptop:
    2.0 ghz AMD CPU
    256mb graphics
    2.0 gig DDRAM
    80 gig HD
    DVD-CD-RW drive
    Ran Windows XP Pro SP2 - Laptop is currently not functioning, there seems to be an issue with the motherboard, it has done the same thing before but i was able to get it working again, but then it bit the dust again.

7. Dell Dimension 4600:
    2.8 ghz P4 CPU
    128mb graphics
    1.75gig DDRAM
    20 gig HD
    DVD-CD-RW drive
    Runs Windows XP Home SP3
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« Reply #47 on: Thu, 18 June 2009, 21:24:20 »
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What in living heck do you need eleven hard drives for?
I do a lot video editing/processing, and temporal storage of uncompressed (or lossless compressed...) video for further processing eats a lot space (especially when its HD or even higher resolution). I also have a good collection of movies, music, p***, anime and other TV series. Two of the HDDs are external/portable ones that don't run most the time, another two are in a NAS for "external" access, the rest is for storage/temp/work, and as zwmalone guessed, for redundancy!

Quote from: ripster;97409
NOW I see why he needs a Onkyo amp connected to the PC.
Nah, actually this setup is less loud than most of my friends PCs with 1-3 HDDs (silent low RPM fans instead of "ZOMG blue LEDs + 1 million RPM" ones, plus a huge heavy case that eats a lot vibration). Also, you get used to the sound after some days, just like you get used to ticking of clocks, traffic sound, cricket chirring, or even a snoring partner... Actually, not too long ago, when the PC wasn't running for some days days (usually it runs 24/7), because my PSU went kaboom, me and my fiancee had problems to sleep because of unfamiliar disturbing silence! :D
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« Reply #48 on: Thu, 18 June 2009, 21:36:32 »
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Wow, what's on the three-gigger?

Windows 95, for when I'm feeling Nostalgic :rofl:  Before that it was DOS 6.2 with OpenGEM!

and incase you were wondering, the 40s each have an OS on them...  one has Red Hat on it, and the other has Haiku (BeOS) on it...
« Last Edit: Thu, 18 June 2009, 21:38:52 by zwmalone »
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« Reply #49 on: Thu, 18 June 2009, 22:30:23 »
I keep around a 386 for that reason.  It has a 40M disc containing DOS 4.01 and GeoWorks 1.2.  I should virtualize it just because the drive is probably on its last legs.
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