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Offline Mohfuu

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Hello Geekhack
« on: Thu, 28 August 2014, 07:29:03 »
Hi everyone

I've been lurking around here and trying to absorb as much knowledge about keyboards as I can because I've been considering acquiring a taste for mechanical keyboards. I'm a nineties kid and my parents (dad engineer and mom economist) were pretty early on with the whole computer thing, and I have vague memories of typing commands into DOS as a child on what was probably a buckling spring keyboard (I assume from my limited grasp).

Of course nowadays these membrane keyboards are being peddled with every PC purchase and seem to have become the standard outfit. I don't exactly hate membrane keyboards because I think I've just begrudgingly gotten used to them but I do miss keys that have a bit of bounce/resistance too them.

That being said, I'm a gamer, but I do a bit of typing as well, I don't think I would like linear switches and I know I don't like clicky, if there is one thing I like about membrane it is the silence. I have a friend that uses a mechanical keyboard (not sure what kind of switches) but every time my gaming buds and I are on Skype, he always gets **** for using that keyboard (I have to admit it annoys me as well).

So I'm wondering, is there anything out there that is as silent as possible and resembles buckling spring? I just want something that feels very tactile with as little noise as possible.

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Re: Hello Geekhack
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 28 August 2014, 07:36:20 »
Welcome to Geekhack!

You might want to look into the following:
- Floss modding a buckling spring board
- Stock MX Browns, Stock MX Clears or modified Clears
- Matias quiet switches, dampened cream Alps, Orange Alps, or Salmon/Pink Alps

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Re: Hello Geekhack
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 28 August 2014, 08:25:05 »
Welcome!

I second the suggestion for stock browns. They are nice and quite to type on, but not linear. I myself have tried the floss mod on a Model M, and it did make it much, much quieter. However, during the process I accidentally caused some damage by pulling the caps off without a proper key puller - so lesson there, always use a keycap puller! I'm still kicking myself over that one.
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Offline Mohfuu

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Re: Hello Geekhack
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 04 September 2014, 03:46:35 »
Thanks for the guidance, and please excuse my late reply.

Is there any place you would recommend I learn more about Alps?

I've been trying to understand as much as I can about MX switches and I've also come to the conclusion that I'll either go for Browns or Clears but I think I might be leaning more to Clear simply because they're just a bit heavier, would I be correct in assuming that the Clears are slightly louder simply because they're a bit heavier?

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Re: Hello Geekhack
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 04 September 2014, 05:22:34 »
Welcome to Geekhack!

For a fairly definitive resource about Alps, you can look here: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Category:Alps_switches

And there is GH's Alps Appreciation Thread.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Offline Mohfuu

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Re: Hello Geekhack
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 04 September 2014, 06:18:01 »
Thanks Rowdy.

This is pretty comprehensive and awesome, I wish I had known about this sooner.
Looks like I'll be reading a bit more before I finally make up my mind.

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Re: Hello Geekhack
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 04 September 2014, 07:15:56 »
Hello fellow new member.  Unfortunately I can't give you advice since I'm pretty new to this as well, but it's nice to see other people's interest in the same thing.

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Re: Hello Geekhack
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 04 September 2014, 17:37:01 »
Thanks Rowdy.

This is pretty comprehensive and awesome, I wish I had known about this sooner.
Looks like I'll be reading a bit more before I finally make up my mind.

With all the Alps options, do you really think you will be able to make up your mind?

Most people don't even get to try all the MX switches (about 8 or 9 of them),m never mind the dozens and dozens of Alps variants! :p
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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