Author Topic: Intel Edison (Read 9017 times)

thp777 · « **on:** Fri, 26 September 2014, 20:06:47 »

Just wondering if anyone else on here has picked up one of these. Just got mine in last night.
$50 dual core 500 mhz atom x86 cpu, 1gb ddr3 ram with wifi and bluetooth built in. 40 configurable GPIO. Running Yocto linux.
Not really sure what im going to do with it yet but i am ordering a corsair flash voyager go for it. If anyone wants me to test stuff with it just let me know.

dorkvader · « **Reply #1 on:** Fri, 26 September 2014, 22:00:05 »

they look awesome and I'd dearly love to get one. I do think it'll be more useful once people start adding video out options.

Altis · « **Reply #2 on:** Fri, 26 September 2014, 22:29:43 »

This looks very interesting. It's the first I've heard of it but I'm going to look into it. Could be fun for all kinds of projects.

dorkvader · « **Reply #3 on:** Fri, 26 September 2014, 22:31:55 »

Quote from: Altis on Fri, 26 September 2014, 22:29:43

This looks very interesting. It's the first I've heard of it but I'm going to look into it. Could be fun for all kinds of projects.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/do-it-yourself/edison.html

they are doing a push to get people to use X86 for stuff instead of just arm.

edit: this is more info about the smaller one in the OP
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13025

noisyturtle · « **Reply #4 on:** Fri, 26 September 2014, 22:37:57 »

How is the Edison vs the Pi?

thp777 · « **Reply #5 on:** Fri, 26 September 2014, 23:18:38 »

atleast twice as powerful and x86 which means stuff pretty much compiles unlike arm. you dont get onboard video like the rpi tho but that might change.
im new to linux so its a learning experience for me. im so new to linux im still trying to figure out how to install third party packages. keep getting wget errors using opkg

. i just want javaDK atm.

esoomenona · « **Reply #6 on:** Fri, 26 September 2014, 23:28:57 »

thp777 · « **Reply #7 on:** Sat, 27 September 2014, 00:31:59 »

Have a few ideas for the board now. Have no idea what im doing tho but ive almost got java JDK installed and then comes the fun part. Gonna have to start fresh tommorrow. Ordering a few parts in morning for it as well.

noisyturtle · « **Reply #8 on:** Sat, 27 September 2014, 00:35:33 »

Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 26 September 2014, 23:28:57

I wonder if it can run something like Windows CE or a trimmed down version of some Windows OS?

Can it run x86 software without an x86 emulator?

thp777 · « **Reply #9 on:** Sat, 27 September 2014, 00:45:35 »

its running x86 yocto linux. drivers would have to be made as far as i know for windows to work on it and it has no video out so probably not very useful.

bueller · « **Reply #10 on:** Sat, 27 September 2014, 00:49:58 »

Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 26 September 2014, 23:28:57

I wonder if it can run something like Windows CE or a trimmed down version of some Windows OS?

Even with the video output considered Windows isn't anywhere near as powerful over the command line as Linux is.

dorkvader · « **Reply #11 on:** Sat, 27 September 2014, 02:30:00 »

Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 26 September 2014, 23:28:57

I wonder if it can run something like Windows CE or a trimmed down version of some Windows OS?

it should be able to run Windows 8.1 straight up.
something like this is probably better though if you need video out
http://www.minnowboard.org/meet-minnowboard-max/

noisyturtle · « **Reply #12 on:** Sat, 27 September 2014, 03:22:39 »

Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 27 September 2014, 02:30:00

Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 26 September 2014, 23:28:57
I wonder if it can run something like Windows CE or a trimmed down version of some Windows OS?

it should be able to run Windows 8.1 straight up.
something like this is probably better though if you need video out
http://www.minnowboard.org/meet-minnowboard-max/

Why run 8 when you can run 7 with far less resources? Isn't 7 supposed to be one of the least demanding Win OS?

bueller · « **Reply #13 on:** Sat, 27 September 2014, 04:03:03 »

Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 27 September 2014, 02:30:00

Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 26 September 2014, 23:28:57
I wonder if it can run something like Windows CE or a trimmed down version of some Windows OS?

it should be able to run Windows 8.1 straight up.
something like this is probably better though if you need video out
http://www.minnowboard.org/meet-minnowboard-max/

I doubt that very much, the CPU isn't nearly powerful enough.

kitsun8 · « **Reply #14 on:** Sat, 27 September 2014, 04:06:24 »

Quote from: noisyturtle on Sat, 27 September 2014, 03:22:39

Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 27 September 2014, 02:30:00
Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 26 September 2014, 23:28:57
I wonder if it can run something like Windows CE or a trimmed down version of some Windows OS?

it should be able to run Windows 8.1 straight up.
something like this is probably better though if you need video out
http://www.minnowboard.org/meet-minnowboard-max/

Why run 8 when you can run 7 with far less resources? Isn't 7 supposed to be one of the least demanding Win OS?

Nope i'm pretty sure 8.1 has a smaller footprint. And besides that there isn't any other reason to prefer 7 over 8.1 unless its just the circlejerk about how metro ui sucks (you can mod windows 8, just get over it)

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #15 on:** Sat, 27 September 2014, 10:16:55 »

They made a special Windows version for Galileo, maybe they will add Edison support?
There are also many different boards the Edison module can plug into with various features. I would be surprised if someone isn't making one with some sort of video soon even if it is something rudimentary like aspeed.
Windows 8.1 is definitely much less resource intensive than 7 was since it was built with lower tablet specs in mind. 8.1 is useable on a 1gHz with 1GB ram as long as its on an SSD.
The purpose of these things isn't really to run a desktop OS though of course. If you need something small for desktop PC I think pico is small enough and has much higher spec available.

Findecanor · « **Reply #16 on:** Sat, 27 September 2014, 10:45:59 »

After having read a bit about how much of a douchebag Edison was, I don't want anything that has his name.

I also have a long-standing dislike for Intel's ISA and architecture. ARM kicks Edison's butt in thermal performance (and probably in speed as well) when manufactured at 20 nm.

dorkvader · « **Reply #17 on:** Sat, 27 September 2014, 12:32:30 »

Quote from: Findecanor on Sat, 27 September 2014, 10:45:59

After having read a bit about how much of a douchebag Edison was, I don't want anything that has his name.

I also have a long-standing dislike for Intel's ISA and architecture. ARM kicks Edison's butt in thermal performance (and probably in speed as well) when manufactured at 20 nm.

of the edison / tesla, edison was the businessman, which means he did mean things to make money. I don't think that makes him less "great". Anyway if they called it a "tesla" then they'd just be on the tesla love train like the rest of the internet.

I think the best news is that people now have more choice. Used to be: "don't like ARM (for whatever reason)? too bad!" now people can choose which is always better.

thp777 · « **Reply #18 on:** Sat, 27 September 2014, 12:48:42 »

Quote from: dorkvader on Sat, 27 September 2014, 12:32:30

I think the best news is that people now have more choice. Used to be: "don't like ARM (for whatever reason)? too bad!" now people can choose which is always better.

exactly why i like edison its x86 i have a choice now. may not be as thermally efficient as ARM but the compatibility with existing packages is alot simpler which is alot better for people unfamiliar with linux and programming.

thp777 · « **Reply #19 on:** Sun, 28 September 2014, 18:30:37 »

freshening my breath and making case for edison at same time. 88 cents and i fit a 500mah lipo cell in it.

Ceedog · « **Reply #20 on:** Sun, 28 September 2014, 19:36:19 »

Meh, I think I'd spring for a Cubox-i instead. Similar or better specs with more I/O options and MicroSD support.

dorkvader · « **Reply #21 on:** Sun, 28 September 2014, 23:12:43 »

cubox / hummingboard look pretty good on the ARM side of the spectrum.

What I don't get is: why do all these use HDMI? All I want is DP, but it doesn't show up on anything under $700, that acer knockoff does not count.

Hak Foo · « **Reply #22 on:** Mon, 29 September 2014, 01:09:17 »

Since these target "embedded" markets, you're not expected to connect them to high-end PC monitors, which are what have DisplayPort. You might want to connect them to TVs, which have HDMI.

dorkvader · « **Reply #23 on:** Tue, 30 September 2014, 14:46:06 »

Quote from: Hak Foo on Mon, 29 September 2014, 01:09:17

Since these target "embedded" markets, you're not expected to connect them to high-end PC monitors, which are what have DisplayPort. You might want to connect them to TVs, which have HDMI.

but displayport is free and can output HDMI (in the case of displayport dual mode ) I think you are right though. They don't offer modern or recent variants of HDMI, so why bother with DP at all, even if it is cheaper.

jackalope · « **Reply #24 on:** Sat, 18 October 2014, 04:38:31 »

Portable seed box, use vnc over bluetooth, or whatever you like to control it.

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Author Topic: Intel Edison (Read 9017 times)