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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #50 on: Mon, 06 October 2014, 20:00:28 »
tmk firmware is compatible w/ gon controller hardware... Or better yet which controller is on the pcb?
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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #51 on: Mon, 06 October 2014, 20:55:22 »
I've already ordered a regular green one through GON, but a white one in addition would be awesome.   :thumb:   I've expressed my interest in the form and hope we can get some more NerD 60 PCBs!   ;)

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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #52 on: Tue, 07 October 2014, 01:06:20 »
I still prefer the White Nerd PCB lol  :p

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Totally on-topic ;)
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« Reply #53 on: Tue, 07 October 2014, 02:31:40 »
I'm interested in getting one, but don't know if I have the funds :( so I'm not going to fill the doc, don't want people to count on me. But if I have the money ... :P
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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #54 on: Tue, 07 October 2014, 04:16:26 »
I'm interested in getting one, but don't know if I have the funds :( so I'm not going to fill the doc, don't want people to count on me. But if I have the money ... :P
i'll shout you 5 bucks so stick your interest in mate. promise 5 bucks. AUD btw, not shifty euros  :rolleyes: that exchange rate...

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« Reply #55 on: Tue, 07 October 2014, 05:07:20 »
I'm interested in getting one, but don't know if I have the funds :( so I'm not going to fill the doc, don't want people to count on me. But if I have the money ... :P
i'll shout you 5 bucks so stick your interest in mate. promise 5 bucks. AUD btw, not shifty euros  :rolleyes: that exchange rate...
Oh yes, and when the GB is up e feel guilty for sticking my interest and having no money to live up to my word, and start selling stuff so I have the money like the last time with the Black NerD60 when I sold my first ever mech board :P I guess you leave me no choice, you sneaky tasmanian devil, my vote is in.
I don't have AUD in my coin collection, so I might be interested in one small coin from "Down Under" , but that's another story ;)
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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #56 on: Tue, 07 October 2014, 06:50:40 »
I'm interested in getting one, but don't know if I have the funds :( so I'm not going to fill the doc, don't want people to count on me. But if I have the money ... :P
i'll shout you 5 bucks so stick your interest in mate. promise 5 bucks. AUD btw, not shifty euros  :rolleyes: that exchange rate...
Oh yes, and when the GB is up e feel guilty for sticking my interest and having no money to live up to my word, and start selling stuff so I have the money like the last time with the Black NerD60 when I sold my first ever mech board :P I guess you leave me no choice, you sneaky tasmanian devil, my vote is in.
I don't have AUD in my coin collection, so I might be interested in one small coin from "Down Under" , but that's another story ;)
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« Reply #57 on: Tue, 07 October 2014, 07:48:55 »
Sweeeeeeeeet! Pleasure doing business with you ;) hahaha
You owe me one ;)
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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 07 October 2014, 15:35:16 »
I still prefer the White Nerd PCB lol  :p

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Totally on-topic ;)

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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #59 on: Tue, 07 October 2014, 18:15:55 »
Sweeeeeeeeet! Pleasure doing business with you ;) hahaha
You owe me one ;)
I owe you 5 buckaroos :))

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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #60 on: Thu, 09 October 2014, 02:41:32 »
What controller is on this board?
What would be the price?
Does the SMD parts come pre-soldered?
Does it come with diodes/LEDs/resistors?


I might be down for one if it's white, always wanted a white PCB 60%.
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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #61 on: Thu, 09 October 2014, 02:49:55 »
Has the PCB price been finalized?

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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 09 October 2014, 05:34:13 »
What controller is on this board?
What would be the price?
Does the SMD parts come pre-soldered?
Does it come with diodes/LEDs/resistors?


I might be down for one if it's white, always wanted a white PCB 60%.
Gons own custom NerD controller.
55 USD for PCB.
yes for a price.
yes for a price.

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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #63 on: Thu, 09 October 2014, 05:36:14 »
Has the PCB price been finalized?
55 USD but if we go over MOQ by a long shot (say 70+) GON might do free soldering (kind of like R1 where we didn't hit a high enough interest to get free soldering)

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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #64 on: Thu, 09 October 2014, 05:49:38 »
Gons own custom NerD controller.

Is that programmable by any other means than his proprietary software?
As nice as the GUI is, it doesn't beat custom firmware like tmk's where you'd have much more freedom to do fancy stuff with multiple layers, macros and functions.

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« Reply #65 on: Thu, 09 October 2014, 06:00:56 »
Gons own custom NerD controller.

Is that programmable by any other means than his proprietary software?
As nice as the GUI is, it doesn't beat custom firmware like tmk's where you'd have much more freedom to do fancy stuff with multiple layers, macros and functions.
Also with NerD GUI you have multiple layers and macros and fancy stuff. I guess you could use some other firmware, the controller is an ATMega 32U4 if I'm not mistaken, so you could flash an avrdude compatible bootloader if you have an ISP programmer and you can use tmk after that.
But then again why do that, NerD GUI is more than enough and if you have a special wish I'm sure GON can include it in a future release of the firmware.
There is also a command line, have yet to test it.
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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #66 on: Thu, 09 October 2014, 06:30:40 »
Gons own custom NerD controller.

Is that programmable by any other means than his proprietary software?
As nice as the GUI is, it doesn't beat custom firmware like tmk's where you'd have much more freedom to do fancy stuff with multiple layers, macros and functions.
Also with NerD GUI you have multiple layers and macros and fancy stuff. I guess you could use some other firmware, the controller is an ATMega 32U4 if I'm not mistaken, so you could flash an avrdude compatible bootloader if you have an ISP programmer and you can use tmk after that.
But then again why do that, NerD GUI is more than enough and if you have a special wish I'm sure GON can include it in a future release of the firmware.
There is also a command line, have yet to test it.

As far as I know, the GUI has a max of 3 layers (base layer + two more), and with the setup I'd like to run I need at least 6, preferably more, which is why I'd like to use something like tmk's.
It also allows me to use functions, and in that sense it allows me to do actual programming for the keyboard (like a compose key feature directly on the keyboard without the need for software, or layout hotswapping between qwerty and dvorak, or even a virtual dip-switch), basically an unlimited amount of customizability.

If the controller is indeed an ATMega32u4 and I can flash a different bootloader that would be great, and I'd most likely purchase at least one PCB.

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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #67 on: Thu, 09 October 2014, 07:09:22 »
Remember to multiply your layer with the Macro one ,

Fn , Fn2 , Macro , Macro + Fn , Macro+ Fn2 , not sure if you can do Fn+FN2
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« Reply #68 on: Thu, 09 October 2014, 07:27:26 »
As far as I know, the GUI has a max of 3 layers (base layer + two more), and with the setup I'd like to run I need at least 6, preferably more, which is why I'd like to use something like tmk's.
It also allows me to use functions, and in that sense it allows me to do actual programming for the keyboard (like a compose key feature directly on the keyboard without the need for software, or layout hotswapping between qwerty and dvorak, or even a virtual dip-switch), basically an unlimited amount of customizability.

If the controller is indeed an ATMega32u4 and I can flash a different bootloader that would be great, and I'd most likely purchase at least one PCB.
Now I understand why you want TMK, when I started in this mech boards hobby I wanted that too, now I don't even use macro's. I have one layout that I want on all my 60%, the exact same one, program the board once and that's it. I like simple things and I like when I change from one board to the other to expect the same behavior  ;D
But I understand why you want to do all that stuff, I can double check at home on my NerD60 PCB what is the exact part number on the controller. In order to flash a new bootloader you will have to figure out where the headers for the ISP programmer are located on the PCB, do the flashing with the risk on bricking the board and finally reverse engineer the matrix on the PCB, that is yet another sisyphean task, because if you don't know how the matrix is you will not be able to use TMK.
The best way would be to wait for the GH60 it works out of the box with TMK, it was designed for TMK. Or biuld a keyboard from scratch, plate mounted switches, handwired matrix and a Teensy or Teensy Clone here is such a board http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/brownfox-step-by-step-t6050.html
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« Reply #69 on: Thu, 09 October 2014, 10:19:42 »
But I understand why you want to do all that stuff, I can double check at home on my NerD60 PCB what is the exact part number on the controller.

That would be most appreciated.

The best way would be to wait for the GH60 it works out of the box with TMK, it was designed for TMK.

The downside with the GH60 is that it has no support for LEDs aside from caps lock and (rumored) WASD cluster.
I would like to do indicators for custom events and whatnot, and the GH60 simply doesn't support that.

Or biuld a keyboard from scratch, plate mounted switches, handwired matrix and a Teensy or Teensy Clone here is such a board http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/brownfox-step-by-step-t6050.html

That is exactly what I have currently, even used that forum post (and it's source) as a guide and inspiration behind my current setup, but again, big downside is the lack of support for backlighting and LEDs in general (it works, but having a PCB definitely makes it easier to work with), plus I don't like how flimsy the "loose" diodes and wires feel. I tend to travel with my keyboard from time to time, and I have on several occasions had to resolder things, and it usually happens when I can't do it and I need to use the keyboard. A PCB eliminates that problem.

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« Reply #70 on: Thu, 09 October 2014, 11:22:20 »
I understand the part with handwired setup, is nice as a DIY project but for long term a PCB is better.
I will take a photo of the controller for you, if you want other detailed photos of the PCB just let me know.
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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #71 on: Thu, 09 October 2014, 14:17:55 »
I share the idea of having tmk as firmware on that pcb. I hope this will be possible. I have no idea on how to flash the bootloader and what they are for at all. Tmk powers a lot of pcbs, is open and full of features.

btw, I would be also interested in some information on the different led zones you have on gons pcb. How many of these zones are available and which keys are in each zone? number zone? modifier zone? alpha zone?

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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #72 on: Thu, 09 October 2014, 16:22:01 »
I  like options but Gon's firmware can support my use cases.    Infinite layers and multimedia macros don't mean much to me beyond being able to make alt f4 2 keys rather than 3,  being able to map a ten key and supporting colemak layout
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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #73 on: Thu, 09 October 2014, 18:20:31 »
Sorry, I couldn't reply the q's in time but I assume many q's have been answered :D
I'll tally the pcb counts over the weekend. :)
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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #74 on: Sat, 11 October 2014, 07:37:02 »
I'll see if i can interest my friends ;)

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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #75 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 07:45:44 »
How's the tally so far?

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« Reply #76 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 10:03:13 »
How's the tally so far?

Sorry, was at London for the weekends.
Updated at the front page.  :)
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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #77 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 18:42:36 »
PCB Count as of 15th Oct - 17 White PCBS.
Those who voted for red earlier, should I void the votes or do you want to be added into the list of white pcbs ?
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« Reply #78 on: Wed, 15 October 2014, 14:44:32 »
I forgot what color I voted for, but I want a PCB regardless of the color.

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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #79 on: Wed, 15 October 2014, 19:19:18 »
Add it to the list :))

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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #80 on: Sat, 18 October 2014, 02:52:55 »
Tentatively, we currently have 27 orders but since GON is working on a GB atm, maybe we should let him complete that before I message him(?)
Don't want him to get too busy running two at the same time. Will give an update as usual if there's any.
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« Reply #81 on: Sat, 18 October 2014, 04:53:51 »
This is good idea, I need some time to scrap the money for this one :P
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« Reply #82 on: Sat, 18 October 2014, 05:42:31 »
What is the expected conversion rate from interest to actual purchase?   With moq of 25.   27 seems a little thin.
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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #83 on: Sat, 18 October 2014, 05:52:19 »
I'm only down for 1 now as I did my other board to a friend so he won't need it.

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« Reply #84 on: Sat, 18 October 2014, 06:39:18 »
What is the expected conversion rate from interest to actual purchase?   With moq of 25.   27 seems a little thin.

Hopefully most of them. At worst, we get the minimum when the GB starts. Hopefully that is. No one trolls me  :confused:
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« Reply #85 on: Sat, 18 October 2014, 07:29:12 »
Also for the Black NerD60 PCB the interest was around 27, when the GB went live the PCB's sold like hot bread, I think in around 2 weeks all the PCB were sold out and more people wanted in :cool:
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Re: [IC] NerD 60 [White PCB] by GON - R2
« Reply #86 on: Sat, 18 October 2014, 10:07:07 »
Also for the Black NerD60 PCB the interest was around 27, when the GB went live the PCB's sold like hot bread, I think in around 2 weeks all the PCB were sold out and more people wanted in :cool:

Got the green light from GON :)
GB will be up soon !
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