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Offline lam47

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« Reply #50 on: Wed, 24 June 2009, 16:41:53 »
My hope is that a key set would be ok price wise to get through customs. I could be wrong though. I do know that Majestouch will not mark the value down so it could be a risk.
crescent shop charges far too much in fees for me to touch them I'm afraid.
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Offline ssb

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« Reply #51 on: Wed, 24 June 2009, 17:03:32 »
Quote from: Repoman;99009
Had a response from Majestouch and I'm waiting for a bit of clarification before I can go into any more detail, but other than vils and lam47, is there anyone else EU based interested in a full set of replacement HHKB Pro2 keys?

Not for HHKB Pro2 but I'd interested in some replacement RealForce 87U space keys. :smile:
Please excuse my poor English.

Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #52 on: Wed, 24 June 2009, 17:07:45 »
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Not for HHKB Pro2 but I'd interested in some replacement RealForce 87U space keys. :smile:


for all these things would be handy to have not only prices but also any applicable fees/shipping cost information...

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Offline Repoman

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« Reply #53 on: Wed, 24 June 2009, 17:09:09 »
I'll ask the question...

Offline lam47

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« Reply #54 on: Wed, 24 June 2009, 17:12:33 »
I doubt he will be able to get individual keys.
It will be a whole set.
For the 87U you can get sets with Korean characters and then the ones with just the roman characters. I don't think you get the space and some other modifiers in the set though. (I might have this wrong. Who reads Korean properly? I am guessing more than anything :) )
Have a look on here.
http://www.leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1215396631
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Offline Repoman

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« Reply #55 on: Wed, 24 June 2009, 17:12:59 »
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for all these things would be handy to have not only prices but also any applicable fees/shipping cost information...


Mail the sales address directly wellington - majestouch will give you a price. He asked me not to post it directly, which makes sense as it's not an official elitekeyboards product line.

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« Reply #56 on: Wed, 24 June 2009, 17:15:40 »
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I doubt he will be able to get individual keys.
It will be a whole set.
For the 87U you can get sets with Korean characters and then the ones with just the roman characters. I don't think you get the space and some other modifiers in the set though. (I might have this wrong. Who reads Korean properly? I am guessing more than anything :) )
Have a look on here.
http://www.leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1215396631
Price is Won.


currency converter says thats about 35 US dollars. Plus fees/shipping, i guess? (which country is that coming from? could be quite high in some cases, right?).

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Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #57 on: Wed, 24 June 2009, 17:16:12 »
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Mail the sales address directly wellington - majestouch will give you a price. He asked me not to post it directly, which makes sense as it's not an official elitekeyboards product line.


k thanks

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Offline Repoman

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« Reply #58 on: Wed, 24 June 2009, 17:39:50 »
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Not for HHKB Pro2 but I'd interested in some replacement RealForce 87U space keys. :smile:


Sorry - Can't get hold of any keys for the 87U via elitekeyboards at the moment.

Offline ssb

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« Reply #59 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 04:20:51 »
Quote from: lam47;99016
I doubt he will be able to get individual keys.
It will be a whole set.
For the 87U you can get sets with Korean characters and then the ones with just the roman characters. I don't think you get the space and some other modifiers in the set though.


I've got such a set (English chars) when ordered my 87U. As you said, space and modifier keys are not included.
So the one-million-dollar question remains: "Where could we get Realforce replacement individual keys or full 87 keys set?"
Maybe I have to ask Topre directly...
Please excuse my poor English.

Offline Repoman

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« Reply #60 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 11:14:42 »
Some kind of contact in Korea would help. The Leopold site sells them but not with international shipping.

Anyone know what happened to stlensbar? I know he was selling from Japan, but I'm sure I read a post where it mentioned he was Korean

Offline lam47

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« Reply #61 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 11:40:14 »
He is Korean but he lives in Japan :)
Also he seems to have stopped selling keyboards.
Last time I asked he said he would be selling them again soon but I don't seem to be able to get in touch with him any more.
its a shame as he is really very good and a very helpful and friendly guy.
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Offline ssb

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« Reply #62 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 11:43:49 »
Anybody knows any Topre's email address?
They only have phone numbers listed on their site, but my Japanese get a bit rusty these days. :smile:
Please excuse my poor English.

Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #63 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 12:08:22 »
repoman did you find a seller for the set of keys you wanted? I'm semi-interested in a white set (whole set) for the 87u (depending on how outrageous the fees/shipping/price is) (or at least i'm curious as to how much it would be altogether).

Also, again out of  curiosity, does anyone know if hhkb keys would fit 87u? Same key height and etc?

FYI elitekeyboards told me they have no 87u key(s) for sale at this time. (single key or sets).

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Offline lam47

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« Reply #64 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 12:42:53 »
You cant but a whole set welly. Topre don't make them.
You can only get the character and number keys.

HH keys are exactly the same yes.
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Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #65 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 13:04:24 »
Quote from: lam47;99135
You cant but a whole set welly. Topre don't make them.
You can only get the character and number keys.

HH keys are exactly the same yes.


hey lammy - that would be perfect, I only want the character and number keys :)

I'm going to go thru this thread and try to figure out what is the best place to buy them and how much fees/shipping will be, but I feel like its a little like doing one's taxes, and will take a good hour to figure out.  This info should be in our wiki (korean/japanese sites, fees, procedures) if it isnt already... (guess i'll check there too).

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Offline Repoman

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« Reply #66 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 15:05:20 »
In that case, you should be fine with the HHKB sets Majestouch can get hold of?

Unless I'm missing something...

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« Reply #67 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 15:10:16 »
Blimey - I've graduated from Junior Member to Member!

Never mind the knob gags - how many more kills before I get from Deadly to Elite?...

Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #68 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 15:22:34 »
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In that case, you should be fine with the HHKB sets Majestouch can get hold of?

Unless I'm missing something...


ya, i asked them for a quote...

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Offline Repoman

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« Reply #69 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 15:43:40 »
Nice - can't wait to see those photos!

Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #70 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 15:48:43 »
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Nice - can't wait to see those photos!


they want 60 and change plus shipping for one set (not sure if it even comes with red escape key). Seems like pricing on this varies a lot so best to get your own quote from them I guess, but I dont see why this pricing is a frickin industrial secret!  They're selling it, its a product isnt it? Anyway, I'm passing for now of course :)  They also cant sell just the red escape key, he recommended leopold for that (which lam reports is out of control shipping/fees for a $4 key)
I think lam said "It was going to be $80 for 2 sets of wasd keys and 2 red escape keys."  SO I guess it was going to be $40 for one set.  Good god, all I want is the frickin $4 key.

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Offline Repoman

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« Reply #71 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 15:54:43 »
I didn't think it was a secret - I was just trying to give the dude some leeway.

Still - if I can find a way to order 40-50 of them, I plan to.

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« Reply #72 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 15:57:31 »
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I didn't think it was a secret - I was just trying to give the dude some leeway.

Still - if I can find a way to order 40-50 of them, I plan to.


you mean 40-50 keysets or 40-50 keys?!

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« Reply #73 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 15:59:13 »
Just the Red Esc's!

Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #74 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 16:00:09 »
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Just the Red Esc's!


lol - man you could sell those like candy :-D  It would be worth the $30 in shipping if you're buying 40 of them -- hey, if you're reselling them in the US for something reasonable then please PM me soon as you get them cuz I will buy one :)

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Offline Repoman

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« Reply #75 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 16:01:30 »
Now you're with me!

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« Reply #76 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 16:05:28 »
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Now you're with me!

"Welcome to the board - the first one is free..."


yea well i just stepped into the "topre labyrinth". Hall of mirrors is more like it ;)

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« Reply #77 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 16:08:24 »
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Wait..do you want a red escape key which costs $4, or do you want the $4 key? :dizzy:


that pretty much sums up my experience conversing on this topic so far ;D

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« Reply #78 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 16:23:06 »
you and me both

Offline lam47

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« Reply #79 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 18:40:15 »
Its such a shame stlensbar is not selling any more. He was doing the red escape + the wasd keys and a key puller for £17 I think it was shipped.
Have you tried checking with him?
(it might have been less hold on, I bought two lots and cant remember)
Can't find it in my ebay.
It was alright though.
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Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #80 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 18:55:18 »
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Its such a shame stlensbar is not selling any more. He was doing the red escape + the wasd keys and a key puller for £17 I think it was shipped.
Have you tried checking with him?
(it might have been less hold on, I bought two lots and cant remember)
Can't find it in my ebay.
It was alright though.


was stlensbar a geekhacker? or just some ebay dude?

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« Reply #81 on: Thu, 25 June 2009, 19:05:29 »
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Ebayer - I bought my 87U from him.   Free japanese newspapers as packaging.  Majestouch just gives me a rotten exercise book.

Here's his store.
Looks like he likes to sell expensive electronics stuff.


i sent him an email asking if he wants to get back into the key set business ;D

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Offline Repoman

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« Reply #82 on: Fri, 26 June 2009, 14:43:41 »
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Ebayer - I bought my 87U from him.   Free japanese newspapers as packaging.  Majestouch just gives me a rotten exercise book.

Here's his store.
Looks like he likes to sell expensive electronics stuff.


He did have an account on here at one point - it was his posts here, and the solid recommendation from lam47 the convinced me to buy my HHKB from him. Buying from him via ebay was a far better experience than getting my Filco Zero from BeNippon.

ON a different topic - seems there are a few Geekhackers that are current or ex US military - anyone have any friends doing a tour keeping a a close eye on Kim Jong?

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« Reply #83 on: Fri, 26 June 2009, 14:53:30 »
Quote from: Repoman;99429
He did have an account on here at one point - it was his posts here, and the solid recommendation from lam47 the convinced me to buy my HHKB from him. Buying from him via ebay was a far better experience than getting my Filco Zero from BeNippon.



I havent heard back from him, btw

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« Reply #84 on: Fri, 26 June 2009, 15:01:07 »
I think most of his items these days are very high margin bits of kit. Maybe the additional workload shipping keyboards was just taking up too much time.

I think he was in Tokyo studying or something. Fair enough I suppose

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« Reply #85 on: Fri, 26 June 2009, 18:25:40 »
thanks for the spare keys megarat :)


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« Reply #86 on: Fri, 26 June 2009, 18:48:55 »
keyb looks nice.
Is that, er, carpet?

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Offline Repoman

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« Reply #87 on: Fri, 26 June 2009, 18:51:45 »
Are you supposed to type on that, or spoon next to it with a roaring log fire and Barry White playing in the background?

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« Reply #88 on: Fri, 26 June 2009, 18:57:29 »
Teach him well, for truly it is an awesome power to command!

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« Reply #89 on: Fri, 26 June 2009, 19:01:22 »
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Tread gently, velcro man.


lol, if thats carpet, my velcro is pretty tame!

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« Reply #90 on: Fri, 26 June 2009, 19:02:14 »
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Are you supposed to type on that, or spoon next to it with a roaring log fire and Barry White playing in the background?


Hahahahahahaha!

With a yule log screen saver maybe?

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« Reply #91 on: Fri, 26 June 2009, 19:03:27 »
by the way, I put the links in this thread into the wiki article on "all things topre".  So, guys, feel free to jump in and, you know, contribute  ;)

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Topre/Realforce+Reference+-+all+things+topre
« Last Edit: Fri, 26 June 2009, 19:14:22 by wellington1869 »

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« Reply #92 on: Fri, 26 June 2009, 19:14:10 »
You seem to have the basics covered my friend - what do you think needs beefing up?

Sorry - that reads wrong. It's not the basics - it seems pretty comprehensive to me.
« Last Edit: Fri, 26 June 2009, 19:16:51 by Repoman »

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« Reply #93 on: Fri, 26 June 2009, 19:16:07 »
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You seem to have the basics covered my friend - what do you think needs beefing up?


any sellers or buying services i'm missing?
any other ebay individuals?

Could use help filling in details for the sellers/services that are listed (shipping prices, tips for first time users, and pricing info for boards (based on models), keysets, wasd/redkey sets), fees info, shipping info (cost and ship time), etc.

even things like contact information (phone numbers, email addresses) for us english-only slobs.
« Last Edit: Fri, 26 June 2009, 19:18:50 by wellington1869 »

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« Reply #94 on: Mon, 29 June 2009, 13:05:36 »
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Are you supposed to type on that, or spoon next to it with a roaring log fire and Barry White playing in the background?

Strong.


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« Reply #95 on: Mon, 29 June 2009, 15:30:04 »
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What do all white Topre keys look like after a few years??


This sounds like the intro to a good racist joke, whats the punch line

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« Reply #96 on: Mon, 29 June 2009, 15:34:37 »
Xsphat said the white ones seem to discolour rather quickly.
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« Reply #97 on: Tue, 04 August 2009, 05:17:13 »
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I got the black version with key markings.

But it seems that I am forever destined to need marked keys, because, as the sun goes down my typing accuracy drops through the floor and I end up switching back to my Filco with the XM switches... because I'm actually able to read the keys on that!

+1

I just recently purchased the black lettered version and instantly realized the black letters on black background were a pain in the ass to read.  I regret not getting the blank black or lettered white version...

So now I have to spend over 1/4 the cost of my $$ HHKB2 just for a stupid set of keys.  Or use stickers.  Stickers on a $250 keyboard.  Stickers on an already lettered keyboard.  Oh God the ugly.  Is it easy to sand the letters off so the stickers won't look so silly? (they will be placed on the front of key, not top)

Why are the HHKB keys so expensive compared to a filco?
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« Reply #98 on: Tue, 04 August 2009, 08:37:22 »
Rarity? Or maybe 'because we can'


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« Reply #99 on: Tue, 04 August 2009, 08:42:07 »
o2dazone, is that a table or your floor?  That wood stain is money.  Sweet pic, BTW.