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Offline dalakada

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Keyboard for mostly coding and slightly gaming
« on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 23:00:17 »
Hi guys,
I am new, so I know there are many vintage keyboard lovers here, which is great.
Anyway, I was about to making a decision between Razer chroma and k70 rgb, but then I find this forum, and then I realized there are many great vendors which create great keyboards.
So I am asking you guys to help me decide which keyboard works for me.
My preference : I like tactile feedback, and also I like the sound of click but I am afraid If it makes me crazy during the long hours of working ?  What do you guys think about that ?
And which keyboard switch you think is best for me ?
Cheers.
« Last Edit: Sun, 02 November 2014, 23:01:54 by dalakada »

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Re: Keyboard for mostly coding and slightly gaming
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 23:04:17 »
Hi guys,
I am new, so I know there are many vintage keyboard lovers here, which is great.
Anyway, I was about to making a decision between Razer chroma and k70 rgb, but then I find these forums, and from that point I realized there are many great vendors who create great keyboards.
So I am asking you guys to help me decide which keyboard works for me.
My preference : I like tactile feedback, and also I like the sound of click but I am afraid If it makes me crazy during the long hours of working ?  What do you guys think about that ?
And which keyboard switch you think is best for me ?
Cheers.

A lot of people are going to recommend you pick up a switch tester.  I believe cooler master sells one.  Keep in mind that testing on that is going to be markedly different than any keyboard. 

While I don't code, I do a fair amount of gaming, I prefer heavier linear switches.  With my favorite being vintage blacks with lube and springs from clears.  Clears, and ergo clears are nice as well.  For clicky switches I really don't like what cherry has to offer.  To me they sound cheap and plasticky.  My preference in clicky switches in order is IBM F, IBM M, then Alps.  However, your mileage will vary. 

Pick up a switch tester and go from there.
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Re: Keyboard for mostly coding and slightly gaming
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 23:08:04 »
Hi guys,
I am new, so I know there are many vintage keyboard lovers here, which is great.
Anyway, I was about to making a decision between Razer chroma and k70 rgb, but then I find this forum, and then I realized there are many great vendors which create great keyboards.
So I am asking you guys to help me decide which keyboard works for me.
My preference : I like tactile feedback, and also I like the sound of click but I am afraid If it makes me crazy during the long hours of working ?  What do you guys think about that ?
And which keyboard switch you think is best for me ?
Cheers.

There are a good amount of options.  If you prefer tactile without the click, mx clears seem like the obvious choice.  There are also topre, but they can be a bit sluggish for certain games that require high apm. Browns have less of a tactile bump(don't feel it as much) but many people tend to dislike it due to the very slight bump, but it works well too

Alps may also be an option.
« Last Edit: Sun, 02 November 2014, 23:10:40 by slickmamba »
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Offline dalakada

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Re: Keyboard for mostly coding and slightly gaming
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 23:38:25 »
Hi guys,
Thanks for replies.
I have another question, when I tried Corsair K65 today in the BestBuy, it looked like the keyboard keys were small in compare to other products like Razer and Logitech g710, and it feels like the distance between each keys were smaller than other products too.
So is it same with K70 rgb ? Or it is only for this product ?
And also is there any standart for keyboard keys size ?

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Re: Keyboard for mostly coding and slightly gaming
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 23:48:10 »
Hi guys,
Thanks for replies.
I have another question, when I tried Corsair K65 today in the BestBuy, it looked like the keyboard keys were small in compare to other products like Razer and Logitech g710, and it feels like the distance between each keys were smaller than other products too.
So is it same with K70 rgb ? Or it is only for this product ?
And also is there any standart for keyboard keys size ?

Nah, the keys are all the same distance apart (0.75 inches or 19.05mm). This is true for almost all keyboards (except ergo KBs like the microsoft sculpt ofcourse, and some mini keyboards like the datalux spacesaver). Different keycap profiles and especially the size of the top of the keycaps will make them feel differently spaced though.

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Re: Keyboard for mostly coding and slightly gaming
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 23:57:47 »
Hi guys,
Thanks for replies.
I have another question, when I tried Corsair K65 today in the BestBuy, it looked like the keyboard keys were small in compare to other products like Razer and Logitech g710, and it feels like the distance between each keys were smaller than other products too.
So is it same with K70 rgb ? Or it is only for this product ?
And also is there any standart for keyboard keys size ?

Nah, the keys are all the same distance apart (0.75 inches or 19.05mm). This is true for almost all keyboards (except ergo KBs like the microsoft sculpt ofcourse, and some mini keyboards like the datalux spacesaver). Different keycap profiles and especially the size of the top of the keycaps will make them feel differently spaced though.
Hey, thanks for the reply.
So you're saying this http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Mechanical-Keyboard-CH-9000063-NA/dp/B00KX8OJK6 and that http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-blackwidow-chroma have probably same size of keyboard key, and same distance between each keyboard key rite ?

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Re: Keyboard for mostly coding and slightly gaming
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 03 November 2014, 00:00:20 »
Hi guys,
Thanks for replies.
I have another question, when I tried Corsair K65 today in the BestBuy, it looked like the keyboard keys were small in compare to other products like Razer and Logitech g710, and it feels like the distance between each keys were smaller than other products too.
So is it same with K70 rgb ? Or it is only for this product ?
And also is there any standart for keyboard keys size ?

Nah, the keys are all the same distance apart (0.75 inches or 19.05mm). This is true for almost all keyboards (except ergo KBs like the microsoft sculpt ofcourse, and some mini keyboards like the datalux spacesaver). Different keycap profiles and especially the size of the top of the keycaps will make them feel differently spaced though.


Looking at the pics, it looks like the Corsairs run a nonstandard bottom row, though. (1.5-1-1.25-6.5-1.25-1-1-1.5 (?))


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Re: Keyboard for mostly coding and slightly gaming
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 03 November 2014, 00:00:28 »
yep, that's what I'm saying.

The keycaps might be slightly different sizes, but they both look like OEM profile to me, and should be abut the same. The key spacing is the same, at 0.75". That I do know.


Looking at the pics, it looks like the Corsairs run a nonstandard bottom row, though. (1.5-1-1.25-6.5-1.25-1-1-1.5 (?))

I think the corsair and the razer have the same bottom row. You're right though. It'll be different than filco, ducky, WASD, and most of the aftermarket keycap sets.
« Last Edit: Mon, 03 November 2014, 00:02:09 by dorkvader »

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Re: Keyboard for mostly coding and slightly gaming
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 03 November 2014, 00:46:43 »
I like tactile and audible feedback when coding, the clicking helps me focus on what I am typing sometimes.

Also this has been asked a few times, perhaps you could peruse some of the previous threads for inspiration ...

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=18490.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=18663.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33119.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48428.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48910.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52527.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65130.0
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Re: Keyboard for mostly coding and slightly gaming
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 03 November 2014, 12:37:13 »
If I need to do this decision, I prefer k70 rgb. But if you don't want light, you can just choose Logitech.
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Re: Keyboard for mostly coding and slightly gaming
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 03 November 2014, 12:38:15 »

I like tactile and audible feedback when coding, the clicking helps me focus on what I am typing sometimes.

Also this has been asked a few times, perhaps you could peruse some of the previous threads for inspiration ...

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=18490.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=18663.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33119.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48428.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48910.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52527.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65130.0
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Re: Keyboard for mostly coding and slightly gaming
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 03 November 2014, 13:52:30 »
I code a lot and do a bit of gaming and love MX Clears. Very tactile, but not noisy.

I can heartily recommend this board (KUL ES-87 with Clears): https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=keyed_up_labs,tenkeyless&pid=es87u_cc_bbb_al

Or if you want backlight: http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/code-keyboard/code-87-key-mechanical-keyboard.html
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Re: Keyboard for mostly coding and slightly gaming
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 03 November 2014, 19:30:30 »
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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