Author Topic: Poker 3 (Read 32169 times)

tyvar1 · « **Reply #100 on:** Fri, 30 January 2015, 08:05:33 »

Mailed vortex and asked if current poker II cases will work with Pok3r. They said yes!

And they also confirmed Nordic ISO

inanis · « **Reply #101 on:** Fri, 30 January 2015, 08:31:20 »

Quote from: Lord of Narwhals on Fri, 30 January 2015, 03:19:23

I like that they moved the arrow cluster but I think the legend placement looks weird since it's not the same for all keys.

I dislike that they moved the arrow cluster! I swapped capslock and FN on my Poker II and I find that using WASD as the arrows makes the most amount of sense. Does no one else use it this way? I thought it was pretty common, but maybe not.

Valen · « **Reply #102 on:** Fri, 30 January 2015, 08:50:14 »

I don't play games so WASD does not make sense to me. This arrow cluster makes more sense to me because I am used to arrows on the right side and I don't have to move my right hand away with this layout.

Polymer · « **Reply #103 on:** Fri, 30 January 2015, 09:06:31 »

Finally, someone that is putting the arrows on IJKL...makes complete sense to do that..except no FN key on the left side (I'm sure you can change it to that).

I wonder if they realize it ONLY makes sense to do IJKL if you can FN with your left hand....

inanis · « **Reply #104 on:** Fri, 30 January 2015, 09:10:59 »

Maybe I have tiny woman hands or something, but I can't comfortably do IJKL as arrows, even with a left side FN. The reason WASD works for me is that it is literally right next to the FN key. I guess I'm in the minority.

Polymer · « **Reply #105 on:** Fri, 30 January 2015, 09:18:22 »

Huh? How can you use normal arrow keys but not IJKL? It is practically the same? And it is the same as WASD except on a different side...The difference is WASD you have to shift your hands...with IJKL your hands (if you use home row) are already in position...from a typing perspective it makes perfect sense...it ends up being better (IMO) than dedicated arrow keys since you don't even have to lift your hands to a different part of the keyboard....

inanis · « **Reply #106 on:** Fri, 30 January 2015, 09:24:33 »

Quote from: Polymer on Fri, 30 January 2015, 09:18:22

Huh? How can you use normal arrow keys but not IJKL? It is practically the same? And it is the same as WASD except on a different side...The difference is WASD you have to shift your hands...with IJKL your hands (if you use home row) are already in position...from a typing perspective it makes perfect sense...it ends up being better (IMO) than dedicated arrow keys since you don't even have to lift your hands to a different part of the keyboard....

I dunno...it is just what feels comfortable. I don't have to shift my hands at all to use wasd. I guess I move my pinky to the fn key (which is in the capslock location) but that is it. Then it is just up, down, left right. No muss, no fuss. Now I could probably get used to ijkl too, I just don't currently...I like doing it with one hand, not two. I will try to be more opened minded! I'm a creature of habit, I find it hard to change my ways.

Tiramisuu · « **Reply #107 on:** Fri, 30 January 2015, 11:05:47 »

At this point with my poker 2 I have a few keysets and an aluminum milled case. I have a neoprene case on order and a braided cable would be nice but otherwise I'm happy with my keyboard. One more upgrade and I will have two 60% keyboards

Buying the Poker 3 is about:

1) programmability and flexibility of the first layer (colemak, nkro)
2) not having to source and solder a pcb, teensy, switches, diodes. (i don't have a solder station and I have too many unfinished projects)

If I look at the expensive korean option:
A Nerd 60 pcb is $55. with the usb/wireless combo is $110.
Switches $40
controller a356 with gon or a teensy 2.0 $30 ish
diode, wire, solder etc...

So somewhere around an additional 140-200 to get to fully programmable and optionally wireless (ignoring the fact that I might never finish assembling it)

OR

The poker 3. If they go with an aluminum case as is the rumour then $99 poker 3's on Massdrop don't seem likely. Retail could be closer to $200+
No option on the wireless module but no soldering required.

We will find out soon enough.

derb2k2 · « **Reply #108 on:** Fri, 30 January 2015, 15:50:36 »

Quote from: Polymer on Fri, 30 January 2015, 09:06:31

Finally, someone that is putting the arrows on IJKL...makes complete sense to do that..except no FN key on the left side (I'm sure you can change it to that).

I wonder if they realize it ONLY makes sense to do IJKL if you can FN with your left hand....

I agree with this! You are right, it makes 100% sense. If only the HHKB had the arrow cluster on IJKL. It would've been perfect!

I was already planning on getting one before but I'm excited for it now, although typing on Topres 45g has been the best typing experience for me and all I want to do is type on topre!

Polymer · « **Reply #109 on:** Sat, 31 January 2015, 20:00:26 »

Quote from: inanis on Fri, 30 January 2015, 09:24:33

Quote from: Polymer on Fri, 30 January 2015, 09:18:22
Huh? How can you use normal arrow keys but not IJKL? It is practically the same? And it is the same as WASD except on a different side...The difference is WASD you have to shift your hands...with IJKL your hands (if you use home row) are already in position...from a typing perspective it makes perfect sense...it ends up being better (IMO) than dedicated arrow keys since you don't even have to lift your hands to a different part of the keyboard....

I dunno...it is just what feels comfortable. I don't have to shift my hands at all to use wasd. I guess I move my pinky to the fn key (which is in the capslock location) but that is it. Then it is just up, down, left right. No muss, no fuss. Now I could probably get used to ijkl too, I just don't currently...I like doing it with one hand, not two. I will try to be more opened minded! I'm a creature of habit, I find it hard to change my ways.

Well I can see people liking that if they want to use one hand...but you're still shifting your hand (I guess that depends how you type..for "proper" form your pinky is on A...not that you have to type that way...But it isn't you lack the flexibility or size of your hands..you're just thinking about using it the way you do today..which for most people would be impossible if you want to use your left pinky for FN and IJKL with the rest of your left hand..

My actual thoughts would be I'd use my left thumb for FN (which hopes you can dip switch the alt key to that) and then just use the arrows with IJKL with not moving my hands off home row and it is the same as using arrow keys today. Granted, I can use my left hand but I don't like the idea of shifting my hands...Just personal preference really..

ideus · « **Reply #110 on:** Sat, 31 January 2015, 20:05:04 »

I want my Pok3r.

STARLORDCOFFEE · « **Reply #111 on:** Tue, 03 February 2015, 00:37:27 »

still not totally sold on this one. We will just have to wait till a geek hacker gets there hands on one.

tyvar1 · « **Reply #112 on:** Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:50:25 »

Any more news ?

hyperboloid · « **Reply #113 on:** Thu, 19 February 2015, 09:18:00 »

Quote from: tyvar1 on Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:50:25

Any more news ?

Maybe after the Chinese holidays will be news... Try to monitor official Vortex FB page.

SoTh · « **Reply #114 on:** Thu, 19 February 2015, 09:34:12 »

I can wait! Hahaha

Sygaldry · « **Reply #115 on:** Thu, 19 February 2015, 09:44:39 »

Quote from: Joebroniee on Wed, 28 January 2015, 16:11:36

Quote from: Sygaldry on Wed, 14 January 2015, 12:53:44
I'm super tempted by this as well.

If this supports split backspace and split right shift layouts and they use the current Vortex/Pexon case (phenomenal case) for this then my money is as good as gone.

says the hhkb master, lol, im sold on this either way, fully programmable =D

Lol yeah, you're right. I might have to pass on this. I have 110 switches lying around waiting for a board to put them on so this isn't my next keyboard purchase =(

Oobly · « **Reply #116 on:** Fri, 20 February 2015, 02:49:46 »

Quote from: Sygaldry on Thu, 19 February 2015, 09:44:39

Quote from: Joebroniee on Wed, 28 January 2015, 16:11:36
Quote from: Sygaldry on Wed, 14 January 2015, 12:53:44
I'm super tempted by this as well.

If this supports split backspace and split right shift layouts and they use the current Vortex/Pexon case (phenomenal case) for this then my money is as good as gone.

says the hhkb master, lol, im sold on this either way, fully programmable =D
Lol yeah, you're right. I might have to pass on this. I have 110 switches lying around waiting for a board to put them on so this isn't my next keyboard purchase =(

GON NerD60 PCB, stabilisers and universal 60% plate + Case from Pexon = Better than this

Maybe even for less overall cost.

lolkey · « **Reply #117 on:** Tue, 24 February 2015, 14:34:32 »

There is someone on Reddit claiming these will be $109-$119.

http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2wz671/poker_3_pricing_and_release_date_new_info/

lolkey · « **Reply #118 on:** Tue, 24 February 2015, 14:35:14 »

Quote from: lolkey on Tue, 24 February 2015, 14:34:32

There is someone on Reddit claiming these will be $109-$119. Bit hard to believe, aren't the plastic case ones $110 shipped from MassDrop?

http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2wz671/poker_3_pricing_and_release_date_new_info/

Tiramisuu · « **Reply #119 on:** Mon, 16 March 2015, 06:33:48 »

Gon is a whole different level. That said the initial reviews of the pok3r will be interesting. Programmability is the big open Question.

Fully programmable and available without all the usual geekhack piecemeal buys and delays is very appealing.

Bucake · « **Reply #120 on:** Mon, 16 March 2015, 09:59:24 »

if there'd be a non-backlit version with a high profile case and black switches, then i'd be on it. but i doubt i'll be in luck :E

ideus · « **Reply #121 on:** Mon, 16 March 2015, 10:52:42 »

Quote from: Oobly on Fri, 20 February 2015, 02:49:46

Quote from: Sygaldry on Thu, 19 February 2015, 09:44:39
Quote from: Joebroniee on Wed, 28 January 2015, 16:11:36
Quote from: Sygaldry on Wed, 14 January 2015, 12:53:44
I'm super tempted by this as well.

If this supports split backspace and split right shift layouts and they use the current Vortex/Pexon case (phenomenal case) for this then my money is as good as gone.

says the hhkb master, lol, im sold on this either way, fully programmable =D
Lol yeah, you're right. I might have to pass on this. I have 110 switches lying around waiting for a board to put them on so this isn't my next keyboard purchase =(

GON NerD60 PCB, stabilisers and universal 60% plate + Case from Pexon = Better than this Maybe even for less overall cost.

A Nerd60 pcb with stabs, resistors, and diodes is over $90 USD and you should solder the resistors and diodes, if you want a plate and a case you will be around $200. Add to it your own switches and caps, and it will be over $300. Of course, it is a totally different board, than a stock one like the Pok3r. One PCB is on its way to my door now, I already have a case, the switches and caps; but no, it is not in the same market than a Pok3r.

dustinhxc · « **Reply #122 on:** Mon, 16 March 2015, 13:03:37 »

All of those months hunting for Vortex Pure Limited cases.. (before pexon picked cases up) it was a tough time.. Now they COME with them!
Vortex, you Know WHATS UP!

Dark_wizzie · « **Reply #123 on:** Thu, 26 March 2015, 00:19:31 »

It's the end of March.

Anyways, how do Pexon cases stack up against a Tex case? (Something like this http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=627)

And Vortex isn't the same as Tex, is it? Weird how they make similar cases and have similar names.

sdiearly · « **Reply #124 on:** Thu, 26 March 2015, 01:35:02 »

Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Thu, 26 March 2015, 00:19:31

It's the end of March.

Anyways, how do Pexon cases stack up against a Tex case? (Something like this http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=627)

And Vortex isn't the same as Tex, is it? Weird how they make similar cases and have similar names.

Because TEX guys are Vortex member originally, now they are split

Sencha · « **Reply #125 on:** Thu, 26 March 2015, 04:29:13 »

Here's a little typing vid

heedpantsnow · « **Reply #126 on:** Thu, 26 March 2015, 14:33:57 »

Quote from: sdiearly on Thu, 26 March 2015, 01:35:02

Quote from: Dark_wizzie on Thu, 26 March 2015, 00:19:31
It's the end of March.

Anyways, how do Pexon cases stack up against a Tex case? (Something like this http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=627)

And Vortex isn't the same as Tex, is it? Weird how they make similar cases and have similar names.

Because TEX guys are Vortex member originally, now they are split

OK, I always wondered what happened. What happened?

illitirit · « **Reply #127 on:** Thu, 26 March 2015, 18:26:51 »

does anyone know if the pok3r will be offered with cherry mx greens?

Altis · « **Reply #128 on:** Thu, 26 March 2015, 20:48:35 »

Quote from: Sencha on Thu, 26 March 2015, 04:29:13

Here's a little typing vid

I'm going to be honest.... I don't think it sounds that great... quite plasticky and hollow sounding. And that's with a towel underneath it, so it's at its best.

I've noticed that keyboards that don't have a lip around the base of the keys seem more likely to sound a little more like this.

ideus · « **Reply #129 on:** Thu, 26 March 2015, 20:55:44 »

The open volume inside the case underneath the pcb is what makes the sound to be that ugly.

Sencha · « **Reply #130 on:** Fri, 27 March 2015, 04:33:42 »

Quote from: Altis on Thu, 26 March 2015, 20:48:35

Quote from: Sencha on Thu, 26 March 2015, 04:29:13
Here's a little typing vid

I'm going to be honest.... I don't think it sounds that great... quite plasticky and hollow sounding. And that's with a towel underneath it, so it's at its best.

I've noticed that keyboards that don't have a lip around the base of the keys seem more likely to sound a little more like this.

Yeah I thought the space bar sounded off as well. I just got a korean made FC660m which is incredibly well made. Far better then my pokers so I'll wait full reviews before jumping in myself.

ynrozturk · « **Reply #131 on:** Wed, 08 April 2015, 10:21:41 »

Video review :

ideus · « **Reply #132 on:** Wed, 08 April 2015, 11:17:01 »

Quote from: Sencha on Fri, 27 March 2015, 04:33:42

Quote from: Altis on Thu, 26 March 2015, 20:48:35
Quote from: Sencha on Thu, 26 March 2015, 04:29:13
Here's a little typing vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_4ngJzKY_s

I'm going to be honest.... I don't think it sounds that great... quite plasticky and hollow sounding. And that's with a towel underneath it, so it's at its best.

I've noticed that keyboards that don't have a lip around the base of the keys seem more likely to sound a little more like this.

Yeah I thought the space bar sounded off as well. I just got a korean made FC660m which is incredibly well made. Far better then my pokers so I'll wait full reviews before jumping in myself.

Leopolds are like tanks.

hasu · « **Reply #133 on:** Thu, 09 April 2015, 03:53:44 »

From video it looks like MCU is Holtek Cortex. And Poker2 also has same, IIRC.
Just sayin...

ctm · « **Reply #134 on:** Thu, 09 April 2015, 09:09:00 »

Quote from: hasu on Thu, 09 April 2015, 03:53:44

From video it looks like MCU is Holtek Cortex. And Poker2 also has same, IIRC.
Just sayin...

Any possibility of flashing in custom firmware to Holtek Cortex?

Jixr · « **Reply #135 on:** Thu, 09 April 2015, 12:22:38 »

i see the pcb supports pcb mounted switches, but can't tell if you can use pcb stabilizers. I'm deff going to get one if i can ditch the plate.

Giorgio · « **Reply #136 on:** Fri, 10 April 2015, 12:19:16 »

Why? Is it too rigid with the plate? It's gonna be a long task since you need to desolder and then solder each switch...

Quote from: Jixr on Thu, 09 April 2015, 12:22:38

i see the pcb supports pcb mounted switches, but can't tell if you can use pcb stabilizers. I'm deff going to get one if i can ditch the plate.

Tiramisuu · « **Reply #137 on:** Fri, 10 April 2015, 16:40:30 »

Quote from: ctm on Thu, 09 April 2015, 09:09:00

Quote from: hasu on Thu, 09 April 2015, 03:53:44
From video it looks like MCU is Holtek Cortex. And Poker2 also has same, IIRC.
Just sayin...
Any possibility of flashing in custom firmware to Holtek Cortex?

It is possible to flash the poker 2 rom. The problem is no one has reverse engineered it.

Colemak on the poker 2 should be as easy as modding the bin and re flashing.

livingspeedbump · « **Reply #138 on:** Fri, 10 April 2015, 20:08:51 »

Eh...the flop from PCB mount, to Plate mount, back to PBC mount, plus no led options right away is just making me wait on buying one of these. The Poker ii was so solid in most regards, and I'm really not sold this is an upgrade. WIll definitely NOT be buying one anytime soon.

Sencha · « **Reply #139 on:** Sat, 11 April 2015, 02:40:23 »

Thought the pok3r is plate mount as well"?

Giorgio · « **Reply #140 on:** Sat, 11 April 2015, 03:26:44 »

Pok3r has always been plate mount. The confusion arised from some engineering samples

Axollott · « **Reply #141 on:** Thu, 16 April 2015, 12:57:12 »

Does Vortex have a webpage? Only thing i have found is a Facebook page...

Giorgio · « **Reply #142 on:** Fri, 17 April 2015, 06:56:29 »

Qwertim is not an option anymore for ordering the pok3r (he is selling the business), so we have amazon and corus keyboards.

childofthehorn · « **Reply #143 on:** Fri, 14 August 2015, 13:33:57 »

Hey guys, I am having a lot of issues with getting the tops pulled off on my pok3r to change out the springs. It looks like it should, but NONE of the tops are opening up at all!

Giorgio · « **Reply #144 on:** Fri, 14 August 2015, 15:44:03 »

Emergency emergency calling doctor cherry.

You can't remove the tops. There are no cutouts in the plate.

Quote from: childofthehorn on Fri, 14 August 2015, 13:33:57

Hey guys, I am having a lot of issues with getting the tops pulled off on my pok3r to change out the springs. It looks like it should, but NONE of the tops are opening up at all!

Giorgio · « **Reply #145 on:** Fri, 14 August 2015, 15:45:07 »

Search for corus kb!

Quote from: Axollott on Thu, 16 April 2015, 12:57:12

Does Vortex have a webpage? Only thing i have found is a Facebook page...

Herothereu · « **Reply #146 on:** Fri, 14 August 2015, 16:35:53 »

Anybody know when the backlit version is shipping?

jerue · « **Reply #147 on:** Fri, 14 August 2015, 20:35:17 »

Quote from: Herothereu on Fri, 14 August 2015, 16:35:53

Anybody know when the backlit version is shipping?

bruh

Zorox · « **Reply #148 on:** Wed, 19 August 2015, 05:52:31 »

Quote from: Herothereu on Fri, 14 August 2015, 16:35:53

Anybody know when the backlit version is shipping?

Vortex answered me that the ISO backlit will ship at around December

SoTh · « **Reply #149 on:** Thu, 03 March 2016, 05:36:15 »

Some day is possible the pok3r RGB backlit version? I'm thinking wait to buy it or buy now the pok3r with white backlit....

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Author Topic: Poker 3 (Read 32169 times)