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Offline cnnx

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« on: Mon, 08 December 2014, 18:15:39 »
Hello.. I'm a new member to this board (been on the irc channel already).  I own a das keyboard cherry mx blue (almost a year now) and I like it but I wanted something more.. better quality.. I ordered a IBM/Lexmark Model 1391401 1370477 keyboard new in box from ebay and am waiting to receive it.  I would like to know what kind of difference I can expect to feel between the two keyboards as they are both mechanical..?

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Offline FrostyToast

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« Reply #1 on: Mon, 08 December 2014, 18:19:41 »
The buckling springs are definitely heavier.
Buckling springs will also feel and sound a lot more like they were part of some machine. VERY metallic sounding as they use the springs themselves to create the sound.
To be, buckling springs feel a lot more linear with no real clear actuation point.
All in all, they are very different sounding and feeling and it can't really be expressed as a comparison.
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« Reply #2 on: Sat, 13 December 2014, 05:26:36 »
Welcome to Geekhack!

If you haven't received the BS keyboard yet, it will feel heavier, louder, and much more solid, than the DAS.  The keycaps are PBT, and possibly less shiny and more textured than those on the DAS.

You can post here again to let us know what you think of the two.
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Offline cnnx

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« Reply #3 on: Tue, 23 December 2014, 07:26:18 »
Well the first IBM model M I received in the mail was defective so I returned it back to the seller, I received a replacement one which is good.  I'm still trying to get used to it as the das felt "lighter" to type on than this one, but this one does indeed feel more solid.  Also another thing to get used to is the heavier sound it makes compared to the das keyboard, feels more like a type writter sound.  We'll see on the long term how I like it.
« Last Edit: Tue, 23 December 2014, 07:29:36 by cnnx »
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Offline butthash

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« Reply #4 on: Tue, 23 December 2014, 07:38:06 »
Welcome!

What is the part number on the back of that? One of the part numbers you gave in the original post (1370477) isn't actually buckling spring, it's rubber dome and made under Lexmark International. The first part number you posted (1391401) is the most common buckling spring model though.
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Offline cnnx

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« Reply #5 on: Tue, 23 December 2014, 07:52:30 »
1370477
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Offline butthash

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« Reply #6 on: Tue, 23 December 2014, 07:55:37 »
Quote from: cnnx on Tue, 23 December 2014, 07:52:30
1370477

Sorry I was reading the model list wrong. Looks like the only weird thing about that model is non-removable keycaps.
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Offline cnnx

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« Reply #7 on: Tue, 23 December 2014, 07:58:36 »
I'm able to remove mine.
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Offline butthash

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« Reply #8 on: Tue, 23 December 2014, 09:29:13 »
Quote from: cnnx on Tue, 23 December 2014, 07:58:36
I'm able to remove mine.

Is there a separate cap 'cover' over the main keycap, or is it all one piece?
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Offline cnnx

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« Reply #9 on: Tue, 23 December 2014, 09:53:40 »
all in one piece
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« Reply #10 on: Tue, 23 December 2014, 19:35:27 »
Just remember what keyboard you will have 10 years from now.  *WEG*
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« Reply #11 on: Tue, 23 December 2014, 19:58:05 »
Welcome to GH!

Nice model M!
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Offline cnnx

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« Reply #12 on: Tue, 23 December 2014, 20:14:27 »
thanks! and I hope I will be using it in 10 years still!
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Offline enoryt

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« Reply #13 on: Tue, 23 December 2014, 20:21:10 »
Welcome!
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Offline rowdy

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« Reply #14 on: Mon, 29 December 2014, 03:53:51 »
Welcome to Geekhack!

That's a nice clean Model M you have there :)

I have also found that a layer or two of drawer liner underneath the keyboard helps absorb some of the vibrations transmitted to the desk, and, to me, improves the sound of a Model M.

Or get one of fohat.digs' rubber mats.
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