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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #100 on: Sun, 15 March 2015, 07:28:32 »
According to your poll the overwhelming choice of profile seems to be SA, hence you have to re-design the Alphas with centered text.

Haven't seen an upper left hand side placement of text when using the SA profile so keep that in mind when you progress towards PMK's store front.  Nothing worse then designing your key-set for DSA placement only and then it becomes distorted on an SA profile  :o .

I don't think there is a requirement for centered legends. Most SA sets have done so to be in keeping with the style of classic spherical sets from the 60's and 70's. SP's double shot molding process handles legends anywhere within the legendable area of keycap face regardless of it's curve.
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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #101 on: Sun, 15 March 2015, 09:04:14 »
Centered legends would look fine with this set I think. All the other SA sets I've seen, I've liked despite  the centered legends. This set however, might look even better with centered legends.

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #102 on: Sun, 15 March 2015, 12:01:49 »
According to your poll the overwhelming choice of profile seems to be SA, hence you have to re-design the Alphas with centered text.

Haven't seen an upper left hand side placement of text when using the SA profile so keep that in mind when you progress towards PMK's store front.  Nothing worse then designing your key-set for DSA placement only and then it becomes distorted on an SA profile  :o .
I've run a few kits by Melissa once already. She didn't indicate it would be a problem, but I can ask about this specific detail.

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #103 on: Mon, 23 March 2015, 08:35:54 »
I dug up these brevity codes.  Could maybe use them on the 1.25u mods.

GUNS (obvious)
FOX 3 (AA active guided missile)
PICKLE (AS ordnance, gravity weapons)

Also considering:  ECM

It's not uncommon to find ECM pods on modern fighter aircraft.

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #104 on: Wed, 25 March 2015, 07:13:54 »
New here, I have a question.
Is there any option or way to get ┼ň ─ń Í÷ keycaps with the ISO set? (Swedish/Nordic layout)
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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #105 on: Wed, 25 March 2015, 09:16:24 »
New here, I have a question.
Is there any option or way to get ┼ň ─ń Í÷ keycaps with the ISO set? (Swedish/Nordic layout)

Sure.  If you can find at least 14 other people who will buy them I'll either add them to the UK set or make another child kit.

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #106 on: Wed, 25 March 2015, 09:19:12 »
Interested

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #107 on: Wed, 25 March 2015, 10:15:34 »
Sure.  If you can find at least 14 other people who will buy them I'll either add them to the UK set or make another child kit.

Adding them to the UK set will do. Hopefully some people will grab the ISO(UK) set.
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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #108 on: Wed, 25 March 2015, 11:51:45 »
Sure.  If you can find at least 14 other people who will buy them I'll either add them to the UK set or make another child kit.

Adding them to the UK set will do. Hopefully some people will grab the ISO(UK) set.

Yeah, that would probably help the UK set tip.  But I can't add the keys and increase the cost of the UK set for everyone if only 2 or 3 people actually need the additional Nordic keys.  If a bunch of people request them then I'll make it happen.

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #109 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 08:08:59 »
Just wanted to post my interest
Wish I had some gif or quote for this space, but I got nothing

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #111 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 13:03:24 »
I love it! I'm definitely interested.

I'll need a highway to my desk, though!

Wow, that joke didn't even work in my head. Oh well.
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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #112 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 15:39:40 »
I love it! I'm definitely interested.

I'll need a highway to my desk, though!

Wow, that joke didn't even work in my head. Oh well.

Well, give you a break....I imagine a winter in Saskatoon does strange things to one's mind. :p
   

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #113 on: Mon, 30 March 2015, 14:36:14 »
Looking to maybe "finalize" the kits this week and push the Interest Check on PMK out by the end of next week.

This probably wouldn't become a GB until early May.  Might wallets have recovered by then?  Is interest still decent?

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #114 on: Tue, 07 April 2015, 12:46:01 »
Going to bump this out another couple of weeks.  Hoping the interest picks up.


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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #115 on: Tue, 07 April 2015, 15:30:30 »
Looking to maybe "finalize" the kits this week and push the Interest Check on PMK out by the end of next week.

This probably wouldn't become a GB until early May.  Might wallets have recovered by then?  Is interest still decent?

That works for me, and yes, I'm very interested still if that's any indication. I hope it is 'cos this set is luvverly.
Buying more keycaps,
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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #116 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 20:38:52 »
Going to bump this out another couple of weeks.  Hoping the interest picks up.

Do keep us posted! I am certainly interested.
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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #117 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 21:12:53 »
Going to bump this out another couple of weeks.  Hoping the interest picks up.

Damn, I really like this one the Yellow Legends on dark blue and grey colour-way is UNIQUE  :thumb: .

This one has to be made soon since I need some more darkie background keys that enable the legends to be seen late at night, when typing.

Also this key-set would be great for any 1800 layout due to it being all Row 3  8) .
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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #118 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 11:29:19 »
Any movement or update?
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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #119 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 15:30:09 »
Nothing to report.  I've been intentionally quiet in here, mainly because I wanted to see what would happen.  This is my first keycap group buy but I don't have the impression that there's a lot of interest in this set, and I'm usually pretty good at reading the situation.  I wasn't expecting the kind of response that a Matt3o or CtrlAlt group buy gets around here, but I was hoping for a little more than I got.  I shared my latest mock-ups over at DT and got an even weaker response.  So that tells me people just aren't interested in the colorway, profile, theme, or something else.  I haven't really figured it out yet -- nobody will tell me what I'm doing wrong.  :rolleyes:

I'm not going through the trouble of getting it approved by SP if it's not even going to tip.   :p  So I'm just going to sit on it until the interest is there or it just quietly dies.  Don't know what else I could do but I'm certainly open to suggestions.

All that said, I do really appreciate those of you who have expressed interest and offered suggestions.  It means a lot.   :thumb:
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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #120 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 15:35:28 »
Did you try posting it to reddit? I know not everone on GH likes that site, but still. It could help.
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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #121 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 15:38:48 »
It might.  I don't have a Reddit account.  If someone wanted to post it for me that would be totally cool.

I don't have anything against r/mk, I'm just not a big fan of the site layout so I don't go there.

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #122 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 15:41:19 »
I'll post it over there tonight and drop a link here to the post.
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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #123 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 19:58:51 »
I think it would still pass, I really like this set, and they only need 30 buys to drop, and my 2 cents on the profile and texture. R3 uniform with matte finish like commando 23 would be the dream

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #124 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 19:59:37 »
And can we also have the centered Gorton legends? They look amazing on SA

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #125 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 20:23:59 »
And can we also have the centered Gorton legends? They look amazing on SA
I'd be open to that. Let me put a sample image together.

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #126 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 20:25:39 »
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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #127 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 20:33:48 »
Thank you sir. You're a gentleman and a scholar.

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #128 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 20:45:27 »
Thank you sir. You're a gentleman and a scholar.
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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #129 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 21:09:31 »
I would definitely be interested in this set. If I could chip in some feedback, I think it'd look super awesome with a few colored modifiers. Maybe throw in a child kit with some of the novelties reversed? If there were options to get my Shift, Ctrl, and Alt keys to be yellow with blue text like the Escape key, I'd be all over it even more!

Good job overall, though! You can definitely count on one purchase should this go through haha.

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #130 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 21:19:52 »
SA? Will cop!

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #131 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 22:06:17 »
And can we also have the centered Gorton legends? They look amazing on SA
I'd be open to that. Let me put a sample image together.

Looking forward to seeing some Gorton Action here finally  8) .   Please show it as soon as possible because this Key-set shall go Ballistic When it's finally launched.

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #132 on: Thu, 30 April 2015, 00:18:37 »
Thank you sir. You're a gentleman and a scholar.

So far 6 people from reddit have stated they will buy, with another one asking about price.
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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #133 on: Thu, 30 April 2015, 03:17:41 »
Nothing to report.  I've been intentionally quiet in here, mainly because I wanted to see what would happen.  This is my first keycap group buy but I don't have the impression that there's a lot of interest in this set, and I'm usually pretty good at reading the situation.  I wasn't expecting the kind of response that a Matt3o or CtrlAlt group buy gets around here, but I was hoping for a little more than I got.  I shared my latest mock-ups over at DT and got an even weaker response.  So that tells me people just aren't interested in the colorway, profile, theme, or something else.  I haven't really figured it out yet -- nobody will tell me what I'm doing wrong.  :rolleyes:

I'm not going through the trouble of getting it approved by SP if it's not even going to tip.   :p  So I'm just going to sit on it until the interest is there or it just quietly dies.  Don't know what else I could do but I'm certainly open to suggestions.

All that said, I do really appreciate those of you who have expressed interest and offered suggestions.  It means a lot.   :thumb:

Wait a few months and try again.

It's not a bad set but colors won't appeal to everyone.  There has also been a lot of big keyset drops recently, with all those CTRL ALT drops and things like GMK Adler, redrops of Granite and Dolch and soon SA Retro (and a redrop of Penumbra).  Most people won't have the money on yet another set at this time.
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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #134 on: Thu, 30 April 2015, 07:56:59 »
Nothing to report.  I've been intentionally quiet in here, mainly because I wanted to see what would happen.  This is my first keycap group buy but I don't have the impression that there's a lot of interest in this set, and I'm usually pretty good at reading the situation.  I wasn't expecting the kind of response that a Matt3o or CtrlAlt group buy gets around here, but I was hoping for a little more than I got.  I shared my latest mock-ups over at DT and got an even weaker response.  So that tells me people just aren't interested in the colorway, profile, theme, or something else.  I haven't really figured it out yet -- nobody will tell me what I'm doing wrong.  :rolleyes:

I'm not going through the trouble of getting it approved by SP if it's not even going to tip.   :p  So I'm just going to sit on it until the interest is there or it just quietly dies.  Don't know what else I could do but I'm certainly open to suggestions.

All that said, I do really appreciate those of you who have expressed interest and offered suggestions.  It means a lot.   :thumb:

Wait a few months and try again.
Yeah, that's more or less what I'm doing.

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It's not a bad set but colors won't appeal to everyone.  There has also been a lot of big keyset drops recently, with all those CTRL ALT drops and things like GMK Adler, redrops of Granite and Dolch and soon SA Retro (and a redrop of Penumbra).  Most people won't have the money on yet another set at this time.

I can't compete with those sets -- and I wouldn't want to.  I'll be part of those group buys too.  So all I can do is try to position it in a gap between them and hope that SP is accommodating.

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #135 on: Thu, 30 April 2015, 17:26:01 »
Another 4 people or so have expressed intrest today on reddit, so assume 10ish people from reddit would purchase.
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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #136 on: Thu, 30 April 2015, 17:57:51 »
Thanks.  Decent feedback from those threads too.  I am working on mock-ups with centered legends.  It will take me a day or so to get everything together.

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #137 on: Thu, 30 April 2015, 19:08:55 »
I am working on mock-ups with centered legends.  It will take me a day or so to get everything together.

BRILLIANT, centered PERFECTION is what we all want in LIFE  8) .

Actually love this colour-way you've produced, hence it shall be bought by myself for some spare keyboards in my possession.

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #138 on: Sat, 02 May 2015, 09:39:48 »
I like the colors, so I would probably be in for at least a core set (depending on price). Yellow on blue really pops! :)

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #139 on: Sat, 02 May 2015, 11:26:39 »
I vote for full sculpt, Rows 1-1-2-3-4-4 (and Row 3 Shifts until SP has made the Row molds) like DCS, Cherry, OEM, etc. with centred Gorton legends.
Buying more keycaps,
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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #140 on: Sat, 02 May 2015, 13:47:14 »
I vote for full sculpt, Rows 1-1-2-3-4-4 (and Row 3 Shifts until SP has made the Row molds) like DCS, Cherry, OEM, etc. with centred Gorton legends.
There was already a vote and Row 3 SA won greatly

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #141 on: Sat, 02 May 2015, 13:51:09 »
Were you still considering including the roundel caps in the wingman pack, or were the custom designs too expensive?
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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #142 on: Sat, 02 May 2015, 14:44:18 »
Were you still considering including the roundel caps in the wingman pack, or were to custom designs to expensive?
I'm doing the RAF roundel for sure in that pack. I'm considering others but cost is a concern.

I should have some new art to share tonight.

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #143 on: Sat, 02 May 2015, 17:01:38 »
Here's the TKL Base Kit with centered legends.  Let me know if you see any errors.

This one also features the "final" custom legend design for the DZ Wing logo.


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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #144 on: Sat, 02 May 2015, 17:04:54 »
Does SP do windowed stepped caps locks>

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #145 on: Sat, 02 May 2015, 17:05:46 »
Not that I'm aware of.

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #146 on: Sat, 02 May 2015, 18:11:32 »
Does SP do windowed stepped caps locks>


I think that is a GMK exclusive, so far.

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #147 on: Sat, 02 May 2015, 18:15:43 »
Does SP do windowed stepped caps locks>


I think that is a GMK exclusive, so far.
The only reason I was asking is because Commando 23 has a stepped windowed caps lock, unless SP didn't do it

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #148 on: Sat, 02 May 2015, 19:10:44 »
Here's the TKL Base Kit with centered legends.  Let me know if you see any errors.

This one also features the "final" custom legend design for the DZ Wing logo.

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MUCH, much better buddy.

This what we're talking about, large legends, just like in any Cockpit and the Yellow stands out nicely.

Keep us informed when this baby is going to PMK for a buy up.

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Re: [IC] DANGER ZONE - A Key Set for Aviators and Their Wingmen
« Reply #149 on: Sat, 02 May 2015, 19:18:32 »
That yellow enter goes perfectly with the set, I will definitely be using it