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Offline Synjin

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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #150 on: Thu, 09 April 2015, 19:54:32 »
I might just send you one for stress testing and review with the white walker I'm about to trade to get my very first bro cap back?
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #151 on: Thu, 09 April 2015, 19:56:42 »
Quote from: Synjin on Thu, 09 April 2015, 19:54:32
I might just send you one for stress testing and review with the white walker I'm about to trade to get my very first bro cap back?

Since I use my HHKB daily, Stress testing would be my pleasure!  ;D
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #152 on: Thu, 09 April 2015, 19:57:58 »
If I do send you one, can u do me a favour and use the cap on an alpha you use a lot even if it will be an odd mixed profile? No better way to test mods and 1u keys than to use them as alphas.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #153 on: Thu, 09 April 2015, 20:01:53 »
What rows have you made?
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #154 on: Thu, 09 April 2015, 20:02:29 »
Just R4 and some mods.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #155 on: Thu, 09 April 2015, 20:05:19 »
Quote from: Synjin on Thu, 09 April 2015, 19:57:58
If I do send you one, can u do me a favour and use the cap on an alpha you use a lot even if it will be an odd mixed profile? No better way to test mods and 1u keys than to use them as alphas.

Yeah, I'll throw it on "A". That'll give it a workout.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #156 on: Thu, 09 April 2015, 20:05:40 »
Well I don't know qwerty very well but on dvorak I use the bottom row pretty often for m and w.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #157 on: Thu, 09 April 2015, 20:06:49 »
Dvorak sounds so alieny. Alright, once I make it then I'll send it to you Exit for letting me get my most precious first ever Bro cap back.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #158 on: Thu, 09 April 2015, 20:08:59 »
At this point qwerty is alieny, my wpm has dropped to 6.  :(
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #159 on: Thu, 09 April 2015, 20:13:15 »
Quote from: Joey Quinn on Thu, 09 April 2015, 20:08:59
At this point qwerty is alieny, my wpm has dropped to 6.  :(

Colemak is where it's at (seriously, I would convert to it if there were caps for it). I don't mind dvorak, and qwerty is just fine to me. I still hit 100wpm consistently, so I'm not going to complain about qwerty.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #160 on: Thu, 09 April 2015, 20:17:22 »
Quote from: exitfire401 on Thu, 09 April 2015, 20:13:15
Quote from: Joey Quinn on Thu, 09 April 2015, 20:08:59
At this point qwerty is alieny, my wpm has dropped to 6.  :(

Colemak is where it's at (seriously, I would convert to it if there were caps for it). I don't mind dvorak, and qwerty is just fine to me. I still hit 100wpm consistently, so I'm not going to complain about qwerty.

I've just given up on finding caps but I touch type so it doesn't bother me. I'm at 50ish on dvorak but I haven't been trying to increase my wpm, I was at about 90 on qwerty but I couldn't touch type.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #161 on: Thu, 09 April 2015, 20:18:56 »
Lel. I can't touch type and I only use 6 fingers when typing.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #162 on: Thu, 09 April 2015, 20:18:57 »
Quote from: Joey Quinn on Thu, 09 April 2015, 20:17:22
Quote from: exitfire401 on Thu, 09 April 2015, 20:13:15
Quote from: Joey Quinn on Thu, 09 April 2015, 20:08:59
At this point qwerty is alieny, my wpm has dropped to 6.  :(

Colemak is where it's at (seriously, I would convert to it if there were caps for it). I don't mind dvorak, and qwerty is just fine to me. I still hit 100wpm consistently, so I'm not going to complain about qwerty.

I've just given up on finding caps but I touch type so it doesn't bother me. I'm at 50ish on dvorak but I haven't been trying to increase my wpm, I was at about 90 on qwerty but I couldn't touch type.

I'm at around 100 touch typing on qwerty, I can maybe do 60 on dvorak (but I can't touch type on dvorak) and about 125 touch typing colemak. I've been using colemak since before I got into mechs, so that's the only reason that works.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #163 on: Thu, 09 April 2015, 20:20:52 »
Quote from: exitfire401 on Thu, 09 April 2015, 20:18:57
I'm at around 100 touch typing on qwerty, I can maybe do 60 on dvorak (but I can't touch type on dvorak) and about 125 touch typing colemak. I've been using colemak since before I got into mechs, so that's the only reason that works.

The only reason I switched layouts is I wanted to touch type. I may learn colemark at some point but I'll probably never go back to qwerty, it's too inefficient.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #164 on: Thu, 09 April 2015, 22:15:14 »
Quote from: Synjin on Thu, 09 April 2015, 17:24:40
Does anyone want to sell me some blank enter, tab, and backspace/delete key for the HHKB? Newer would be better.

Holy crap dude... Not only 1 mod which is a first.. But multiple modifier keys.. You're amazing. Please do the giveaway soon!
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #165 on: Thu, 09 April 2015, 22:42:07 »
Quote from: dustinhxc on Thu, 09 April 2015, 22:15:14
Quote from: Synjin on Thu, 09 April 2015, 17:24:40
Does anyone want to sell me some blank enter, tab, and backspace/delete key for the HHKB? Newer would be better.

Holy crap dude... Not only 1 mod which is a first.. But multiple modifier keys.. You're amazing. Please do the giveaway soon!

You've seen his space bar, right?
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #166 on: Thu, 09 April 2015, 22:50:32 »
Photo courtesy of ImpendingDom. FN R4 and Spacebar match
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #167 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 03:21:07 »
niceeee i'll get the  pink and purple pls
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #168 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 04:45:12 »
Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 09 April 2015, 22:42:07
Quote from: dustinhxc on Thu, 09 April 2015, 22:15:14
Quote from: Synjin on Thu, 09 April 2015, 17:24:40
Does anyone want to sell me some blank enter, tab, and backspace/delete key for the HHKB? Newer would be better.

Holy crap dude... Not only 1 mod which is a first.. But multiple modifier keys.. You're amazing. Please do the giveaway soon!

You've seen his space bar, right?

Quote from: Synjin on Thu, 09 April 2015, 22:50:32
Photo courtesy of ImpendingDom. FN R4 and Spacebar match
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That spacebar looks very clean! :0
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #169 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 05:54:44 »
Quote from: dustinhxc on Fri, 10 April 2015, 04:45:12
Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 09 April 2015, 22:42:07
Quote from: dustinhxc on Thu, 09 April 2015, 22:15:14
Quote from: Synjin on Thu, 09 April 2015, 17:24:40
Does anyone want to sell me some blank enter, tab, and backspace/delete key for the HHKB? Newer would be better.

Holy crap dude... Not only 1 mod which is a first.. But multiple modifier keys.. You're amazing. Please do the giveaway soon!

You've seen his space bar, right?

Quote from: Synjin on Thu, 09 April 2015, 22:50:32
Photo courtesy of ImpendingDom. FN R4 and Spacebar match
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That spacebar looks very clean! :0
indeed!!!!!
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #170 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 06:08:44 »
Killin it!!! Spacebar looks beautiful!!!
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #171 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 14:01:14 »
Quote from: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 10 April 2015, 06:08:44
Killin it!!! Spacebar looks beautiful!!!

Quote from: Sed8op8 on Fri, 10 April 2015, 05:54:44
Quote from: dustinhxc on Fri, 10 April 2015, 04:45:12
Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 09 April 2015, 22:42:07
Quote from: dustinhxc on Thu, 09 April 2015, 22:15:14
Quote from: Synjin on Thu, 09 April 2015, 17:24:40
Does anyone want to sell me some blank enter, tab, and backspace/delete key for the HHKB? Newer would be better.

Holy crap dude... Not only 1 mod which is a first.. But multiple modifier keys.. You're amazing. Please do the giveaway soon!

You've seen his space bar, right?

Quote from: Synjin on Thu, 09 April 2015, 22:50:32
Photo courtesy of ImpendingDom. FN R4 and Spacebar match
Show Image


That spacebar looks very clean! :0
indeed!!!!!

Quote from: dustinhxc on Fri, 10 April 2015, 04:45:12
Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 09 April 2015, 22:42:07
Quote from: dustinhxc on Thu, 09 April 2015, 22:15:14
Quote from: Synjin on Thu, 09 April 2015, 17:24:40
Does anyone want to sell me some blank enter, tab, and backspace/delete key for the HHKB? Newer would be better.

Holy crap dude... Not only 1 mod which is a first.. But multiple modifier keys.. You're amazing. Please do the giveaway soon!

You've seen his space bar, right?

Quote from: Synjin on Thu, 09 April 2015, 22:50:32
Photo courtesy of ImpendingDom. FN R4 and Spacebar match
Show Image


That spacebar looks very clean! :0

It had a few problem areas on the bottom side of it, but I took a bit of time on an industrial polishing machine and the imperfections melted away quite nicely. There a still a few bubbles but nothing detrimental to its use.

 If the sonicator is not working 100% (I'm assuming you are using a probe sonicator), I would suggest a vacuum degas before hand or  pressure cast. If the work time is not enough for both the sonicator AND a vacuum degas, do some experiments to find out which is more effective in the time frame. Pressure casting is almost always do-able because you don't have to worry about work time, just demold time. I'm sure I have used different media than what you are using now, but I have had much more success with vacuum and pressure than sonication. That being said I have only used a bath sonicator; it had results but a probe is probably a bit more effective. I also like short work time/demold time and low viscosity so I have had some restraints of my own.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #172 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 15:07:22 »
Teaser pic for what is to come later Thanks for the suggestion doom. I actually had major mold issues on the space bar so I won't be making hem till I have more materials. I use an industrial sonic at or but it is mainly for distributing and mixing them uniformly. I will eventually get a degasser as well once I have enough to do so but the working Ines vary and might not give me enough time to Degas's and use the sonicator. The caps are getting better now compared to when I was making them before.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #173 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 15:17:59 »
This is some advice, personally coming from me as a cap consumer. The visible lines in a transparent cap ruin the look for me. So I guess my suggestion is to make it so the lines that are there.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #174 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 15:20:22 »
The cap won't be as sturdy if I were to make it without the lines. I actually tried it and the cap ended up bing brittle and feeling quite different. If most people do prefer that they aren't there then I can definitely so that.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #175 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 15:24:11 »
Omg, that Frosted/Milky Pink looks awesome Synjin! O=
Not sure if my body can withstand a picture of a modifier set in that color!

I personally dont mind the support bar lines on transparent caps honestly.

But making the hole cap as thick as the supports would remove the lines look an make it even more sturdy.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #176 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 15:27:43 »
I will be making a list if stuff that should be tackled when new iterations if the caps are made.
The mods are lacking some keys since I don't have those blanks.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #177 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 15:56:36 »

NIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCEEEEE!!!!





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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #178 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 16:10:37 »
Quote from: Synjin on Fri, 10 April 2015, 15:20:22
The cap won't be as sturdy if I were to make it without the lines. I actually tried it and the cap ended up bing brittle and feeling quite different. If most people do prefer that they aren't there then I can definitely so that.


I personally don't mind the lines! Would definitely prefer them if they make the structure nicer too!
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #179 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 16:11:43 »
Amazing work Synjin!

The caps are looking close to perfect!

Now I need some thock in my life...
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #180 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 18:51:45 »
Oh man that Frosted Pink... <3 <3 <3
I can't stop imagining modifiers like this but the Love is already too much. xD

Honestly scared for the next update, not sure If my body can handle more of that Frosted Pink beauty...
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #181 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 19:10:31 »
I really don't mind the lines either as I haven't seen to many variants of trans keys without them. Let me know what modifiers you need if any of them can be found on a RF 87u tkl I might be able to help.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #182 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 11:46:36 »
Well done job Synjin.

Your Keycap doesnt look like the new beginer.

I enjoy making keycaps ,because it is very interesting and when the cap finished i have the feeling of satisfy :)

Looking forward to see more about your great work.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #183 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 12:09:50 »
Quote from: martinyeah on Sat, 11 April 2015, 11:46:36
Well done job Synjin.

Your Keycap doesnt look like the new beginer.

I enjoy making keycaps ,because it is very interesting and when the cap finished i have the feeling of satisfy :)

Looking forward to see more about your great work.
Thank you for your support Martin. You are one of my inspirations for sure. With hopes, I can make a full nod set for the HHKB.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #184 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 15:03:35 »
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #185 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 15:09:32 »
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Those look super clean!  :)  You are making super fast progress Synjin!
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #186 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 15:43:30 »
Pink ish purple that is reactive to UV as requested.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #187 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 16:20:38 »
Quote from: Synjin on Sat, 11 April 2015, 15:43:30
Pink ish purple that is reactive to UV as requested.

That color is pure Love Synjin! <3
Its really subtile yet really pops in a way and is actually even a UV color!

I'm really wondering if it would look more or less vibrant on the white case of the type S.
A white case might make it bright, a dark one even more subtile i guess...  :)

Is the second pic actually done with UV light btw? Is the glow strong?
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #188 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 16:24:52 »
Quote from: Synjin on Sat, 11 April 2015, 15:43:30
Pink ish purple that is reactive to UV as requested.
god synjin I love those cant wait til you start to release some  :)
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #189 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 17:28:17 »
The glow is strong but I don't have a tripod to actually attempt to capture it glowing with UV light.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #190 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 17:39:24 »
Quote from: Synjin on Sat, 11 April 2015, 17:28:17
The glow is strong but I don't have a tripod to actually attempt to capture it glowing with UV light.

I can take care of pictures Synjin! I have the equipment except for the caps to take pictures of... xD

Sounds awesome tho! Does UV make the glow more white or pink?
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #191 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 17:39:46 »
It glows white.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #192 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 10:44:31 »
Purple trans.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #193 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 10:59:41 »
This is probably due to lightning but it looks really blue from there.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #194 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 11:00:12 »
Potato phone. Its deep purple.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #195 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 11:01:40 »
Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 14 April 2015, 10:59:41
This is probably due to lightning but it looks really blue from there.
Same however the screen on my tablet is really off and does not even come close to displaying colors correctly !
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #196 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 11:03:17 »
I will try to get a better pic after class.
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #197 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 15:10:26 »
You did deep purple and oj trans! Why you tease me sooo! :D  :thumb:
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #198 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 21:49:20 »
Quote from: dustinhxc on Tue, 14 April 2015, 15:10:26
You did deep purple and oj trans! Why you tease me sooo! :D  :thumb:
lol right !
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Re: Key Cap Creation (Topre Fn)
« Reply #199 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 22:12:53 »
Giveaway has started.
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