Author Topic: Conflicted on 1st 'Good' Keyboard purchase (Read 15529 times)

itlnstln · « **Reply #50 on:** Fri, 16 October 2009, 12:18:45 »

Quote from: timw4mail;126044

My problem with that keyboard is that after the tactile point, it is extremely easy to bottom out compared with a buckling spring mechanism.

That's a problem with ALPS switches, in general. Maybe not if they are linear, but certainly for the tactile versions.

itlnstln · « **Reply #51 on:** Fri, 16 October 2009, 12:36:56 »

Yeah, it was always the sharp tactile point in the ALPS switches that made me bottom out. That, and ALPS don't have the "springy" springs that Cherrys seem to have.

itlnstln · « **Reply #52 on:** Fri, 16 October 2009, 12:44:25 »

I, for one, like a little friction now and then (preferably "now" more than "then"), just not in my keyboards.

dutch · « **Reply #53 on:** Sat, 17 October 2009, 19:10:57 »

Thanks for the help. Yeah, the left Windows key doesn't bother me enough to send it back. I'll try ripster's suggestion next time I have a can of air/blow stuff. I was able to get the space bar off without breaking anything (thanks to the wiki for the words of caution), but didn't see that there was anything I could do to fix it. Oh well, I might not end up typing lightly enough anyway for the switch not to reset.

I love the feel and sound of this board, but now feel guilty for having to look askance at the inferior experience of typing on my AlphaSmart Neo! It's served me so well, and I hate being disloyal!

wellington1869 · « **Reply #54 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 12:39:45 »

Dutch, out of curiosity, I asked cyberguys their policy if you find any keys that arent clicking. Here's what they said:

"If the keyboard arrives defective, we will take care of shipping both ways. You will not be required to pay for return shipping for a defective item during your 90 day return period."

So if that key continues to bother you, just contact them. Wont cost you a penny. And you have 90 days too.

You can also simply return it. Isnt that something? (Actually thats nothing special - most vendors in the keyboard world and the the larger retail world in fact allow that).

Guys, no matter what ripster (and any vendors) try to tell you, please remember:
You have a right to find out details and shop according to your personal priorities.
-vendors are not the same
-return policies are not the same
-controllers are not the same
-keys are not the same
-what you get for your money is not the same
-your personal priorities are your own

This is true even within the small market niche of expensive mechanical keyboards, just as its true in the broader retail economy.

Dont let anyone bury the details, especially salesmen and fanboys.

itlnstln · « **Reply #55 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 12:59:34 »

Quote from: webwit;126914

Oh shut up you MS toad. Remember, this is the hypocrite fanboy who wrote for hours and hours defending a company that is taking craps on consumer rights by design. Mr Righteous the MS lobbyist.
Time to visit a shrink and find a job, Don, before this all implodes. If you write this much, fanatically, on a stupid site which does not pay you for this, it's all gonna end in tears. Get a ****ing life.

Hey, I'm Don.

timw4mail · « **Reply #56 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 13:08:23 »

Quote from: webwit;126914

Oh shut up you MS toad. Remember, this is the hypocrite fanboy who wrote for hours and hours defending a company that is taking craps on consumer rights by design. Mr Righteous the MS lobbyist.
Time to visit a shrink and find a job, Don, before this all implodes. If you write this much, fanatically, on a stupid site which does not pay you for this, it's all gonna end in tears. Get a - life.

Why don't you check and see what he's talking about before you go on a silly rampage?

wellington1869 · « **Reply #57 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 13:17:37 »

I bet you just live off the royalties now, dont you.

itlnstln · « **Reply #58 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 13:25:13 »

I always wondered why they called him "stupid."

The Lone Ranger is a racist a*shole.

itlnstln · « **Reply #59 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 13:32:01 »

Is that a hamburger on the T-shirt?

itlnstln · « **Reply #60 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 13:43:36 »

Oh well. I guess we'll just have to try again some other time.

This is getting a little out of hand, though.

itlnstln · « **Reply #61 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 14:00:33 »

We just need a big group hug.

If anyone grabs my ass, I'm punching them in the throat.

AndrewZorn · « **Reply #62 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 14:29:25 »

so on the box, tonto is dreaming of boys' underwear...

wellington1869 · « **Reply #63 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 14:36:28 »

Quote from: AndrewZorn;126975

so on the box, tonto is dreaming of boys' underwear...

well, tonto or webwit, take your pick

Rippy you've got to be the most passive aggressive guy on this site. You're not mad anymore? Come on, I dont believe that. One of your little lego guys mooned me a while back. You telling me thats not as substitute for your ass?

At least itln fesses up to his fanboyism xD Again, consistency I can respect.

msiegel · « **Reply #64 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 14:43:28 »

Quote from: wellington1869;126978

One of your little lego guys mooned me a while back.

it was last night that the moon came out.

since he's not mad anymore, maybe that was a good way of blowing off steam.

wellington1869 · « **Reply #65 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 14:43:37 »

The cavalry must be defeated. Mob mentality must end. And vendors need to stop 'directing traffic' in the keyboard review section of the site. (To say nothing of help from their fanboys).

You know I love you guys, and yea i've been snippy lately, but whatever my mood I'm not going to silently watch valid criticism be buried. Na-ga-da. Its a crying shame to see that on GH. Never happened before like this, with vendors and fanboys participating.

itlnstln · « **Reply #66 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 14:44:34 »

Quote from: AndrewZorn;126975

so on the box, tonto is dreaming of boys' underwear...

Either that, or he's about choke the Lone Ranger and punch him in the grill for calling him stupid.

Man, that's weird picture.

msiegel · « **Reply #67 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 14:45:26 »

Quote from: wellington1869;126982

The cavalry must be defeated. Mob mentality must end. And vendors need to stop 'directing traffic' in the keyboard review section of the site. (To say nothing of help from their fanboys).

You know I love you guys, and yea i've been snippy lately, but whatever my mood I'm not going to silently watch valid criticism be buried. Na-ga-da. Its a crying shame to see that on GH. Never happened before like this, with vendors and fanboys participating.

i'd feel better if you did something constructive.

anything constructive.

wellington1869 · « **Reply #68 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 14:47:57 »

The long term solution to this (vendor + fanboy directing traffic in the review-section) problem is that maybe we need to get more vendors on here. IF we're going to have vendors (which I dont think we should) but if we're going to, then the doors should be opened wider.

For instance -- I'd love to see TWO blue cherry vendors on GH "go at it" for our favor. Wouldnt that be something to watch?

It shouldnt be us going at it as their proxies. They should be going at it directly. Like in a true capitalist system,and to our benefit. The problem right now is we have one monopoly vendor of blue cherries on the site - with intimate access to our keyboard review section.

No, open up the doors, lets get more vendors in here so they can do point-counterpoint with each other over the merits of their return policies, customer service, prices, keyboard quality, key quality, etc.

itlnstln · « **Reply #69 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 14:49:07 »

What's really funny is that my Filco is not even my favorite 'board. If I fanboy for anyone here, it's Cherry Corp. Hell, you can even see that in the quote in Welly's sig. In that thread, I was trying to get majestouch to carry Cherry 'boards, so we could have another (and, IMO, better) alternative to Filcos.

wellington1869 · « **Reply #70 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 14:49:58 »

Quote from: msiegel;126985

i'd feel better if you did something constructive.

anything constructive.

i find pointing out destructive fanboyism is the most constructive thing I can do. Un-burying criticism is not only constructive, its what this site stood for even just a week ago. Before vendors started directing traffic in the keyboard section.

I think it was Ripster himself who once suggested that reviewers and vendors can live side by side so long as they dont project themselves into each others sections.

Or Ripster, have you "changed your mind" on that too? I can bring up that quote of yours if you like.

Its silly to pretend Rippy hasnt changed on key views in his defense of his favorite vendor. I have a choice between excessive politeness or brutal honesty. Usually i've been polite, but it seemed important to make a stand here, where major lines were crossed for the first time.

msiegel · « **Reply #71 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 14:51:42 »

are you consolidating the considerations you've found, into one place?

edit: because it really doesn't take any effort to bury posts, they're buried automatically by sheer volume.

itlnstln · « **Reply #72 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 14:52:21 »

I just like how on the one hand I'm majestouch's ***** and I fanboy for him and Filco while at the same time I keep telling people that Cherry makes the better overall keyboard and ask majestouch to carry them so we have an alternative to Filco.

AndrewZorn · « **Reply #73 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 14:54:05 »

Quote from: itlnstln;126990

i just like how on the one hand i'm majestouch's ***** and i fanboy for him and filco while at the same time i keep telling people that cherry makes the better overall keyboard and ask majestouch to carry them so we have an alternative to filco.

such a convenient alibi, isn't it?

?

(was supposed to be all caps)

itlnstln · « **Reply #74 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 14:55:38 »

Quote from: AndrewZorn;126991

such a convenient alibi, isn't it??

(was supposed to be all caps)

I know I'm a little slow, but I catch on.

AndrewZorn · « **Reply #75 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 14:57:50 »

HA!

just realized that this is actually a separate topic than the 20pg+ original flamewar.

wow.

itlnstln · « **Reply #76 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 14:58:34 »

This one.

Hey, at least it has an above-average rating.

ch_123 · « **Reply #77 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 14:59:10 »

Fujitsu Peerless, keyboard of champions.

itlnstln · « **Reply #78 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 15:01:36 »

Quote from: ch_123;126997

Fujitsu Peerless, keyboard of champions.

I wish I could afford one. I would burn all my keyboards in a second if I could only get my hands on one.

itlnstln · « **Reply #79 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 15:11:45 »

Hey, those are my neighbors. The guy in the middle is Colonel **** Dussendropp of the First Regimental Cavalry Batallion in the Texas National Army Corps of Marines. They will be leading the charge in the Legedary Struggle Of Texas Indepenence War of 2010.

timw4mail · « **Reply #80 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 15:12:16 »

It would be nice if we could convince Elite Keyboards to stock Cherry brand keyboards.

msiegel · « **Reply #81 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 15:17:54 »

Quote from: timw4mail;127006

It would be nice if we could convince Elite Keyboards to stock Cherry brand keyboards.

XD subtlety. u has it.

ch_123 · « **Reply #82 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 15:20:37 »

From what I read, the Cherrys are a step down from the Filcos. Sure they may have better caps, but who cares about that kind of thing, right? =P

Also, we all know that Brian is a closet Weeaboo. The German stuff just doesn't cut the mustard.

itlnstln · « **Reply #83 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 15:25:19 »

Quote from: ch_123;127009

From what I read, the Cherrys are a step down from the Filcos. Sure they may have better caps, but who cares about that kind of thing, right? =P

Also, we all know that Brian is a closet Weeaboo. The German stuff just doesn't cut the mustard.

I don't think so, but it doesn't scream quality (perceived or real) like Filco does. The Cherrys aren't as heavy, and the aesthetics aren't much to write home about, but they are solid keyboards with excellent build quality and, IMO, a better feel than Filco. They are certainly more "industrial" than Filcos, that's for sure. They have a face only a mother could love.

AndrewZorn · « **Reply #84 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 15:26:32 »

Quote from: ch_123;127009

Also, we all know that Brian is a closet Weeaboo. The German stuff just doesn't cut the mustard.

except he doesn't sell the kana-keyed ones. that actually proves that there's pretty much no way he is.

ch_123 · « **Reply #85 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 15:30:02 »

He did once on the marketplace, but we'll let him off the hook...

o2dazone · « **Reply #86 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 19:32:17 »

im just here for the pics

elbowglue · « **Reply #87 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 23:30:52 »

Quote from: webwit;126983

Yes, that MS fanboy claims the people here know nothing about their consumer rights and he knows all, and he is gonna educate us. Just as he claimed we knew nothing about MS and he was gonna educate us, while completely ignoring the truth. What a complete **** toad.

Sorry, an honest viewpoint from a total newbie to this site,

Webwit you should be named webtwit. That or get on some prozac.

Just my 2 cents.

msiegel · « **Reply #88 on:** Mon, 19 October 2009, 23:39:04 »

there's a long history between those two

wellington1869 · « **Reply #89 on:** Tue, 20 October 2009, 01:20:00 »

Everytime Tonto speaks, I win. Love it.
Nuthin' to do but Dance!

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Author Topic: Conflicted on 1st 'Good' Keyboard purchase (Read 15529 times)