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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #150 on: Sat, 04 July 2015, 04:17:42 »
Updated the pricing for the orange alphas, see first page too:
10 sets      $66 per set
15 sets      $55 per set
25 sets      $45 per set
50 sets      $39 per set
75 sets      $36 per set
100 sets      $35 per set
150 sets      $34 per set
250 sets      $33 per set

Anyway as you can see Dvorak and Colemak kit is missing. I asked Melissa about new Store Rules with max 10 Child Deals. As you can see right now we got a main deal (Base kit) and 10 Child Deals, making it together 11 Deals. So i need to clarify if Carbon is breaking this rule. I thats the case the Orange Alphas will go. I also asked about the possibility to buy child deals without buying the base kit. If its possible i will remove the notation from the base kit. Most people will end anyway getting the base kit as it has the alphas.

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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #151 on: Sat, 04 July 2015, 08:23:43 »
Love this set. If I don't end up buying one of the extra sets from Modern Selectric this will be my first SA set!!! I can't wait for PMK to come back up so we can get this set going. Nice work T0mb3ry.
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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #152 on: Sat, 04 July 2015, 19:55:11 »
I asked Melissa about new Store Rules with max 10 Child Deals. As you can see right now we got a main deal (Base kit) and 10 Child Deals, making it together 11 Deals. So i need to clarify if Carbon is breaking this rule. I thats the case the Orange Alphas will go.

I'm sure Melissa will allow it because she is the MOST caring and decent person to deal with.  THE ORANGE ALPHAS have to STAY, because they shall be used with other key-sets that were made in the past.

PLEASE keep the Orange Alphas  :'( .

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« Reply #153 on: Sat, 04 July 2015, 19:58:28 »
I want the orange alphas. Can they please stay  :'( :'(
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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #154 on: Sat, 04 July 2015, 20:02:22 »
Orange alphas ftw.

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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #155 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 04:13:33 »
I personaly want to stay them too. Let us first find out how is it with max 10 child deals.
Here are these rules:
  • The new system will allow votes on Child Deals as well as on the Base Set. We would like to see a minimum of 200 votes on the Base Set and 50 votes on each of the Child Deals before considering them for production.
  • We would like to see a maximum of 10 Child Deals per design, where possible. This may mean combining two or more into one set or eliminating those sets that have limited appeal.
- See more at: http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/a-new-pmk-is-on-its-way/#sthash.HrNFMvBP.dpuf

If i read these rules, i for me understand that there is a base set and 10 child deals. In this case Carbon is not breaking these rules. However i want just to clarify it first. My sorrows about this came in my mind, as there was no Dvorak / Colemak in approximated pricing list. So i am just checking whats going on.


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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #156 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 04:21:23 »
I asked Melissa about new Store Rules with max 10 Child Deals. As you can see right now we got a main deal (Base kit) and 10 Child Deals, making it together 11 Deals. So i need to clarify if Carbon is breaking this rule. I thats the case the Orange Alphas will go.

I'm sure Melissa will allow it because she is the MOST caring and decent person to deal with.  THE ORANGE ALPHAS have to STAY, because they shall be used with other key-sets that were made in the past.

PLEASE keep the Orange Alphas  :'( .

Not only i see it like this: for Example you got a tkl keyboard and a Planck (or Ergodox). You get base kit for tkl and ergodox kit with orange alphas for Ergodox. If you want orange alphas on tkl just swap them with ergodox. profit...
Getting both may allow you doing some crazy sh!t, like (orange/beige) zebra stripes or even chess like alphas.
And if you got other keysets which you can mix too, then it brings the whole fun to the next level.
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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #157 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 05:11:44 »
Not only i see it like this: for Example you got a tkl keyboard and a Planck (or Ergodox). You get base kit for tkl and ergodox kit with orange alphas for Ergodox. If you want orange alphas on tkl just swap them with ergodox. profit...
Getting both may allow you doing some crazy sh!t, like (orange/beige) zebra stripes or even chess like alphas.
And if you got other keysets which you can mix too, then it brings the whole fun to the next level.

Just as long the Orange Alphas are included in something, makes me sleep better at night  8) .

Shall buy at least 3 sets of Orange Alphas when this starts, you can count on that  :thumb: .

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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #158 on: Mon, 06 July 2015, 15:18:13 »
Wow, those novelties are looking to be pretty expensive. I expected some icon mods and Esc, not twenty different symbols and 6 keys dedicated to forum self-love jacking the price up the yin yang.

I'll probably just end up getting the base kit. :(

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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #159 on: Mon, 06 July 2015, 15:20:30 »
Studying organic chemistry just makes me want to throw my money at this set more and more. PMK why you no open.
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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #160 on: Mon, 06 July 2015, 16:05:57 »
Wow, those novelties are looking to be pretty expensive. I expected some icon mods and Esc, not twenty different symbols and 6 keys dedicated to forum self-love jacking the price up the yin yang.

I'll probably just end up getting the base kit. :(
Sorry i actually like to split Novelties into 3 Child Deals but there is limit of max 10 child deals. Anyway if they sells 100 times it will get for my personall taste acceptable price. I will buy them anyway even for 100+ bucks.

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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #161 on: Tue, 07 July 2015, 17:05:45 »
Well got a Reply from Melissa everything is fine with child deals. Glad we can keep the orange alphas.

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« Reply #162 on: Tue, 07 July 2015, 17:09:35 »
Well got a Reply from Melissa everything is fine with child deals. Glad we can keep the orange alphas.
Did you get pricing for the DC kit?

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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #163 on: Tue, 07 July 2015, 19:46:05 »
Well got a Reply from Melissa everything is fine with child deals. Glad we can keep the orange alphas.

Yesssssssssssssss this is the best news today  :p
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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #164 on: Tue, 07 July 2015, 21:01:16 »
Well got a Reply from Melissa everything is fine with child deals. Glad we can keep the orange alphas.

Yesssssssssssssss this is the best news today  :p

Like I said, Melissa delivers everything you could want when organizing a Group Buy.  You have to love her for being that way, SP would be nothing without her at the helm  :thumb: .

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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #165 on: Tue, 07 July 2015, 23:11:49 »
Why is Mac Kit so expensive?  some kit include more keys num(mac kit is 12 keys) and it is cheaper than Mac kit  :eek: :eek: :eek:
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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #166 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 01:55:29 »
Why is Mac Kit so expensive?  some kit include more keys num(mac kit is 12 keys) and it is cheaper than Mac kit  :o :o :o

It's a clue, that maybe you need to forget the Mac once and for all  :D .

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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #167 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 02:15:46 »
Why is Mac Kit so expensive?  some kit include more keys num(mac kit is 12 keys) and it is cheaper than Mac kit  :eek: :eek: :eek:

The only comparison I see that makes the mac kit look expensive is comparing it to the flex kit at the 25 and below price tiers. Looking at prices for the rest of the sets, it actually looks more like the flex kit is unexpectedly affordable than the mac kit is unreasonably expensive.
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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #168 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 04:15:18 »
Well got a Reply from Melissa everything is fine with child deals. Glad we can keep the orange alphas.

Yesssssssssssssss this is the best news today  :p

Like I said, Melissa delivers everything you could want when organizing a Group Buy.  You have to love her for being that way, SP would be nothing without her at the helm  :thumb: .

Too true. If only they would reopen the store then everything would be a okay.  ;D
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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #169 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 10:27:57 »
Well got a Reply from Melissa everything is fine with child deals. Glad we can keep the orange alphas.
Did you get pricing for the DC kit?
Yes i got the DC pricing today:
10 sets      $45
15 sets      $35
25 sets      $28
50 sets      $22
75 sets      $20
100 sets      $19
150 sets      $18
200 sets      $17

Did the update to the first page too...

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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #170 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 10:34:29 »
Why is Mac Kit so expensive?  some kit include more keys num(mac kit is 12 keys) and it is cheaper than Mac kit  :eek: :eek: :eek:
Actually i have no idea why it is so expensive. Maybe its because of mod keys > 1u size. You know its not a secret if you visit some online stores using apple products what you get higher prices. There was a research done and i read these articles and you know its not a joke.

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« Reply #171 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 23:21:59 »
Well got a Reply from Melissa everything is fine with child deals. Glad we can keep the orange alphas.
Did you get pricing for the DC kit?
Yes i got the DC pricing today:
10 sets      $45
15 sets      $35
25 sets      $28
50 sets      $22
75 sets      $20
100 sets      $19
150 sets      $18
200 sets      $17

Did the update to the first page too...

Thanks for that.

Although, whereabouts is the 7x spacebar because you seem to be only showing on the front page of this section a 6.25 spacebar?

A lot of us have and need 7x spacers due to our love of the "tsangan kit"  8) .

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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #172 on: Thu, 09 July 2015, 12:08:18 »
Although, whereabouts is the 7x spacebar because you seem to be only showing on the front page of this section a 6.25 spacebar?

From OP
Updated:
fitting max 10 child deals rule of pmk.
Blanks and Spacebars will be available in the store per default.

Anyways, is there any time frame for when PMK will go live with the new system?

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« Reply #173 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 16:45:53 »
Anyways, is there any time frame for when PMK will go live with the new system?

They've given no indication.  At least, not publicly.

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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #174 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 18:57:33 »
hey, any update on this? Also, should you want to run this on MD and not PMK let me know, I'll point the guys there your way to see what they think. I would be quite comfortable telling them this will be a pretty large GB ;)
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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #175 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 19:10:34 »
hey, any update on this? Also, should you want to run this on MD and not PMK let me know, I'll point the guys there your way to see what they think. I would be quite comfortable telling them this will be a pretty large GB ;)

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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #176 on: Sat, 11 July 2015, 05:03:02 »
Hello people!

I asked already Melissa for the new Shopping System. Sadly i got no reply. And i think we will not get an update anytime soon...

I am thinking about running it through MD. But i dont know the conditions of MD. So i must learn them first.

Also if it runs through MD, i am interessted to make this only one time GB. If you are against it, i am willing to make other rounds but in huge timelines in between of runs. Or we make it if people vote enough(like usual). Anyway by voting Granite will always win :p

Additonally i must adjust the Child Deals for MD. For this i need more info from MD.

Reply and let me know how do you think about it! I will always listen to you.

After i am done with Carbon i will introduce you my next Project.
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« Reply #177 on: Sat, 11 July 2015, 07:35:38 »
Good to know, I had use MD for couple of time. The system is  easy to use and the responses are always on time. For my own thought, the MD is a good place to go since we don't have any date of the PMK's new website.
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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #178 on: Sat, 11 July 2015, 09:14:19 »
I'm good with whichever option will get the caps in my hands quicker. Which, unless PMK surprises us all by launching next week, looks to be MD.

After i am done with Carbon i will introduce you my next Project.
Would you mind teasing us with the colour scheme?  ;D

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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #179 on: Sat, 11 July 2015, 09:55:37 »
I want base + colemak + ergodox

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« Reply #180 on: Sat, 11 July 2015, 13:20:29 »
I'm good with whichever option will get the caps in my hands quicker. Which, unless PMK surprises us all by launching next week, looks to be MD.

After i am done with Carbon i will introduce you my next Project.
Would you mind teasing us with the colour scheme?  ;D
Its called Umka. Google for Umka. Its a cartoon from my childhood and it has the best lullaby in my opinion.
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The color scheme is not final:


Novelties will be zodiac signs also the small bear and the big bear.

Dont try to translate UMKA it will be translated into smart (russian) but actually it means bear in chuckcha language.
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« Reply #181 on: Sat, 11 July 2015, 13:25:21 »
I'm good with whichever option will get the caps in my hands quicker. Which, unless PMK surprises us all by launching next week, looks to be MD.

After i am done with Carbon i will introduce you my next Project.
Would you mind teasing us with the colour scheme?  ;D
Its called Umka. Google for Umka. Its a cartoon from my childhood and it has the best lullaby in my opinion.
Umkas lullaby in english:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkE5kpr1bF4

The color scheme is not final:
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Novelties will be zodiac signs also the small bear and the big bear.

Dont try to translate UMKA it will be translated into smart (russian) but actually it means bear in chuckcha language.

Ah I love it. Can't wait :DDDDDD
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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #182 on: Sat, 11 July 2015, 13:28:33 »
I'm good with whichever option will get the caps in my hands quicker. Which, unless PMK surprises us all by launching next week, looks to be MD.

After i am done with Carbon i will introduce you my next Project.
Would you mind teasing us with the colour scheme?  ;D
Its called Umka. Google for Umka. Its a cartoon from my childhood and it has the best lullaby in my opinion.
Umkas lullaby in english:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkE5kpr1bF4

The color scheme is not final:
Show Image


Novelties will be zodiac signs also the small bear and the big bear.

Dont try to translate UMKA it will be translated into smart (russian) but actually it means bear in chuckcha language.

Ah I love it. Can't wait :DDDDDD

But first things first. I must finish Carbon after that i will work on Umka. Actually i let you people decide which profile will be used.

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« Reply #183 on: Sat, 11 July 2015, 13:36:40 »
I can't wait for Carbon to go live <3 Profile I'm not sure what to suggest. With Carbon being SA maybe do DCS or Cherry?
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« Reply #184 on: Sat, 11 July 2015, 17:41:21 »
I'm good with whichever option will get the caps in my hands quicker. Which, unless PMK surprises us all by launching next week, looks to be MD.

After i am done with Carbon i will introduce you my next Project.
Would you mind teasing us with the colour scheme?  ;D
Its called Umka. Google for Umka. Its a cartoon from my childhood and it has the best lullaby in my opinion.
Umkas lullaby in english:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkE5kpr1bF4

The color scheme is not final:
Show Image


Novelties will be zodiac signs also the small bear and the big bear.

Dont try to translate UMKA it will be translated into smart (russian) but actually it means bear in chuckcha language.

You should look into JTK for this.
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« Reply #185 on: Sun, 12 July 2015, 00:21:07 »
Its called Umka. Google for Umka. Its a cartoon from my childhood and it has the best lullaby in my opinion.
Umkas lullaby in english:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkE5kpr1bF4

The color scheme is not final:
Show Image


Novelties will be zodiac signs also the small bear and the big bear.

Dont try to translate UMKA it will be translated into smart (russian) but actually it means bear in chuckcha language.
One of the first things that came to mind when I watched that video was the Gund Snuffles bear (they are designed to look in to the sky, or moon to be exact). Which isn't bad thing   :)

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« Reply #186 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 15:43:17 »
How about using the /r/mk-cap mold from Pulse SA?


That would reduce the price for the novelty kit slightly.

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« Reply #187 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 15:49:35 »
How about using the /r/mk-cap mold from Pulse SA?
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That would reduce the price for the novelty kit slightly.

If that's not a "community" mold then SP might not let anyone use it without permission from MiTo... who kinda disappeared.  I know that he designed a lot of custom legends for that group buy.  Like pretty much everything in that kit.

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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #188 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 15:53:32 »
How about using the /r/mk-cap mold from Pulse SA?
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That would reduce the price for the novelty kit slightly.

If that's not a "community" mold then SP might not let anyone use it without permission from MiTo... who kinda disappeared.  I know that he designed a lot of custom legends for that group buy.  Like pretty much everything in that kit.

Plus it's the wrong row profile anyway.
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« Reply #189 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 15:59:59 »
How about using the /r/mk-cap mold from Pulse SA?

That would reduce the price for the novelty kit slightly.

If that's not a "community" mold then SP might not let anyone use it without permission from MiTo... who kinda disappeared.  I know that he designed a lot of custom legends for that group buy.  Like pretty much everything in that kit.

Plus it's the wrong row profile anyway.
:-\ :-\ How could I oversee this. :confused:

I guess the answer is pretty clear then.

BTW, MiTo is alive. He's on Reddit nowadays and I'm pretty sure he would allow to use the mold. Carbon also started out on Reddit.
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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #190 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 16:19:47 »
How about using the /r/mk-cap mold from Pulse SA?

That would reduce the price for the novelty kit slightly.

If that's not a "community" mold then SP might not let anyone use it without permission from MiTo... who kinda disappeared.  I know that he designed a lot of custom legends for that group buy.  Like pretty much everything in that kit.

Plus it's the wrong row profile anyway.
:-\ :-\ How could I oversee this. :confused:

I guess that answer is pretty clear then.

BTW, MiTo is alive. He's on Reddit nowadays and I'm pretty sure he would allow to use the mold. Carbon also started out on Reddit.

Oh, it's good to hear that he's back.

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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #191 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:08:45 »
I send Melissa only the new icons. It is supposed to reuse already existing icons. If there are some authorized icons and if i dont get permission then new legends will be made. Melissa also told me that the legends can be used on any row. The "molds" are made only for key profile. The "legend" or "icon" are part of the mold and can be used on any other mold. In this case Geek Hack, R/MK/ and radiation sign should be reused. So basically (i think) this is the pricing with existing legend molds.

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« Reply #192 on: Mon, 20 July 2015, 09:13:29 »
In the novelties kit, would it be possible to split the carbon related keys from the others and create two child deals instead of one? It seems that it would tailor to more people that way. BTW, looking fantastic so far!

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« Reply #193 on: Mon, 20 July 2015, 10:39:10 »
In the novelties kit, would it be possible to split the carbon related keys from the others and create two child deals instead of one? It seems that it would tailor to more people that way. BTW, looking fantastic so far!

Due to new PMK rules the child deals are limited to 10. So we can split several carbon related novelties across all child deals (this will make child deals more expensive) or remove Warning Signs and let only Carbon related, geekhack and rmk keys.

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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #194 on: Mon, 20 July 2015, 11:39:55 »
In the novelties kit, would it be possible to split the carbon related keys from the others and create two child deals instead of one? It seems that it would tailor to more people that way. BTW, looking fantastic so far!

In the Group Buy format, generally people need to subsidize other peoples' purchases as well in order to make things affordable for everyone. For example, International kits generally cover many different languages, the vast majority of users will never have reason to use all of the keys from the Intl kit. But by putting all of those keys in one kit, it allows all users to meet MOQ for their language in particular. You see similar cases with pro modifier kits, that allow support of many alternate layouts, few of which could meet MOQ on their own. With the novelty set, because the warning signs and carbon-related novelties are largely new legends, the kit may require more keys to be made in order for prices to drop to a reasonable price. Removing some of the novelties from the novelty kit will reduce the chance of the remaining keys succeeding.

In the novelties kit, would it be possible to split the carbon related keys from the others and create two child deals instead of one? It seems that it would tailor to more people that way. BTW, looking fantastic so far!

Due to new PMK rules the child deals are limited to 10. So we can split several carbon related novelties across all child deals (this will make child deals more expensive) or remove Warning Signs and let only Carbon related, geekhack and rmk keys.

Please do not remove the warning signs. They are what make this set so attractive to me, and I feel as though they really tie the set together. The other novelties are nice too, but I really like the look of the novelties as a numrow stripe, and their unique design is what I feel makes this set special.
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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #195 on: Mon, 20 July 2015, 12:26:57 »
In the novelties kit, would it be possible to split the carbon related keys from the others and create two child deals instead of one? It seems that it would tailor to more people that way. BTW, looking fantastic so far!

In the Group Buy format, generally people need to subsidize other peoples' purchases as well in order to make things affordable for everyone. For example, International kits generally cover many different languages, the vast majority of users will never have reason to use all of the keys from the Intl kit. But by putting all of those keys in one kit, it allows all users to meet MOQ for their language in particular. You see similar cases with pro modifier kits, that allow support of many alternate layouts, few of which could meet MOQ on their own. With the novelty set, because the warning signs and carbon-related novelties are largely new legends, the kit may require more keys to be made in order for prices to drop to a reasonable price. Removing some of the novelties from the novelty kit will reduce the chance of the remaining keys succeeding.

In the novelties kit, would it be possible to split the carbon related keys from the others and create two child deals instead of one? It seems that it would tailor to more people that way. BTW, looking fantastic so far!

Due to new PMK rules the child deals are limited to 10. So we can split several carbon related novelties across all child deals (this will make child deals more expensive) or remove Warning Signs and let only Carbon related, geekhack and rmk keys.

Please do not remove the warning signs. They are what make this set so attractive to me, and I feel as though they really tie the set together. The other novelties are nice too, but I really like the look of the novelties as a numrow stripe, and their unique design is what I feel makes this set special.

Ofcourse i will not remove the Warning Signs as they are the cherry on top of ice cream  ;) Just want to make clear if i move Carbon related keys to other child deals this will not make the novetlies cheaper. Carbon related keys require only 3 new legends made! Its nothing and because of this the Novelites will most likely stay as they are. With enough people this kit will be affordable for everyone. And as i said i personaly will buy it even for over 100 bucks. I need it so badly.

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« Reply #196 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 17:31:56 »
If you like you can vote for Carbon on MassDrop here: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/pbt-keycaps-that-arent-granite
As i already said i am willing to run it through Massdrop. Though i dont know about the conditions. So i must somehow talk to someone from MussDrop.

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« Reply #197 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 17:40:34 »
If you like you can vote for Carbon on MassDrop here: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/pbt-keycaps-that-arent-granite
As i already said i am willing to run it through Massdrop. Though i dont know about the conditions. So i must somehow talk to someone from MussDrop.

That vote is ostensibly for PBT keysets. I do not believe that SP does doubleshot PBT in SA profile, and this set will not work in dyesub because some keys have light legends on dark keys (modifiers, orange on grey).
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« Reply #198 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 21:13:49 »
If you like you can vote for Carbon on MassDrop here: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/pbt-keycaps-that-arent-granite
As i already said i am willing to run it through Massdrop. Though i dont know about the conditions. So i must somehow talk to someone from MussDrop.

That vote is ostensibly for PBT keysets. I do not believe that SP does doubleshot PBT in SA profile, and this set will not work in dyesub because some keys have light legends on dark keys (modifiers, orange on grey).

Maybe I'm mistaken, but from the pictures it doesn't seem like any of them can be dyesubbed, given the colour schemes.

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Re: [IC] Carbon Keyset
« Reply #199 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 21:18:08 »
If you like you can vote for Carbon on MassDrop here: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/pbt-keycaps-that-arent-granite
As i already said i am willing to run it through Massdrop. Though i dont know about the conditions. So i must somehow talk to someone from MussDrop.

That vote is ostensibly for PBT keysets. I do not believe that SP does doubleshot PBT in SA profile, and this set will not work in dyesub because some keys have light legends on dark keys (modifiers, orange on grey).

Maybe I'm mistaken, but from the pictures it doesn't seem like any of them can be dyesubbed, given the colour schemes.

I think you're right -- I was commenting specifically about this set though.

Probably the poll was made by someone who doesn't know the difference. I think it's too bad that people are likely going to be misled into believing that Carbon will be PBT, and it will hurt the set overall.
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