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Offline Hofy

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Mac Pro Plus by Keytronic
« on: Wed, 23 September 2009, 12:20:37 »
This keyboard followed me home yesterday.  Anyone know about them?

Mac Pro Plus by Keytronic.  2  PS/2 type ports on back and an RJ11/12 jack.



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Set of dip switches under a door on the back.



Double shot keys, rubber switch cover, and  top of switch.



Side view of plate mounted switches and pcb.  Switches feel very linear.

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« Reply #1 on: Wed, 23 September 2009, 12:30:22 »
They're souped up rubber domes.
Buckling Springs IBM Model F AT, New Model F 77, Unicomp New Model M
Clicky iOne Scorpius M10, OCN-branded Ducky DK-9008-C, Blackmore Nocturna, Redragon Kumara K552-1, Qtronix Scorpius Keypad, Chicony KB-5181(Monterey)
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Offline ch_123

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« Reply #2 on: Wed, 23 September 2009, 12:57:54 »
Could be Cherry NMBs, especially if they are linear.

Offline alpslover

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« Reply #3 on: Wed, 23 September 2009, 13:04:33 »
those appear to be keytronic capacitive switches.

Offline rdjack21

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« Reply #4 on: Wed, 23 September 2009, 13:57:29 »
I agree with alpslover those look like Keytronic capacitive switches. See here: http://sandy55.fc2web.com/keyboard/kt_e03418.html
Keyboards
Topre Capacitive: Realforce 87U, Realforce 86U, HHKB Pro 2, Topre MD01B0, Topre HE0100, Sun Short Type, OEM NEO CS (x2), NISSHO Electronics KB106DE
Buckling Spring: IBM Model M Space Saver (1291472), Unicomp Customizer x 2
Cherry Brown: Filco FKBN87M/EB, Compaq MX11800
Black Alps: ABS M1
Not so great boards Rare Spring over dome OKI, Sun rack keyboard

Trackballs - Trackman Wheel (3), Trackman marble (2)
Keyboards I still want to get - Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro 2 the White version, Realforce 23U number pad in black and maybe white, μTRON ergo board with Topre switches.
Previously owned - [size=0]SiiG MiniTouch (White Alps), Scorpius M10 (Blue Cherry), IBM Model M13[/size]

Offline rdh

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« Reply #5 on: Wed, 23 September 2009, 17:01:40 »
I picked up a very old Key Tronic a while back that uses very similar buckling rubber sleeves to lift the key caps, and appears to have capacitive switches.  (I really should get around to posting the pictures...)

Some of the sleeves on my board are old enough that they collapse completely when pressed, and don't spring back.  (When I got it, it was tightly wrapped in plastic, which I think contributed to the problem.)

Does anyone know of a source of replacement sleeves?
at home: IBM "Space Saving" Model M
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« Reply #6 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 07:23:37 »
Quote from: alpslover;120055
those appear to be keytronic capacitive switches.


Keytronic switches are capacitative! Wow!

Could that mean that one could take an old Keytronic keyboard, perhaps, rather than tearing up an old model F... and arrange spring mechanisms from 3278 keyboards to get a keyboard with the ideal touch in the right layout?

Perhaps not, if the capacitative interaction is internal to a switch assembly, rather than to large pads on a circuit board as with the Model F and the 3278... but the thought of a rather exciting keyboard modification was too good not to share.

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« Reply #7 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 07:51:18 »
Quote from: quadibloc;120236
Keytronic switches are capacitative! Wow!

Could that mean that one could take an old Keytronic keyboard, perhaps, rather than tearing up an old model F... and arrange spring mechanisms from 3278 keyboards to get a keyboard with the ideal touch in the right layout?

Perhaps not, if the capacitative interaction is internal to a switch assembly, rather than to large pads on a circuit board as with the Model F and the 3278... but the thought of a rather exciting keyboard modification was too good not to share.

Only some really old Keytronic switches. I doubt the keytronic PCB would be compatible with the IBM capacitive mechanism.
Buckling Springs IBM Model F AT, New Model F 77, Unicomp New Model M
Clicky iOne Scorpius M10, OCN-branded Ducky DK-9008-C, Blackmore Nocturna, Redragon Kumara K552-1, Qtronix Scorpius Keypad, Chicony KB-5181(Monterey)
Tactile Apple AEKII (Cream damped ALPS), Filco FKBN91M/JB (Japanese Tenkeyless), Cherry G84-5200, Cherry G84-4100LPAUS, Datalux Spacesaver(Cherry ML), Redragon Devarajas K556 RGB, Newmen GM711, Poker II (Cherry MX Clear), Logitech G910 Orion Spark, Logitech K840
Linear Lenovo Y (Gateron Red), Aluminum kiosk keyboard (Cherry MX Black)

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« Reply #8 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 08:55:23 »
Quote from: quadibloc;120236
Keytronic switches are capacitative! Wow!

Could that mean that one could take an old Keytronic keyboard, perhaps, rather than tearing up an old model F... and arrange spring mechanisms from 3278 keyboards to get a keyboard with the ideal touch in the right layout?

That's about as feasible as putting buckling springs from a Model M into a cheapass Dell board on the basis that they're both membrane keyboards.

Exact implementations of underlying contact mechanisms vary greatly from manufacturer to manufacturer. Compare the innards of a Topre to the innards of a Model F for example.

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« Reply #9 on: Thu, 24 September 2009, 09:37:35 »
Quote from: rdh;120139
I picked up a very old Key Tronic a while back that uses very similar buckling rubber sleeves to lift the key caps, and appears to have capacitive switches.  (I really should get around to posting the pictures...)

Some of the sleeves on my board are old enough that they collapse completely when pressed, and don't spring back.  (When I got it, it was tightly wrapped in plastic, which I think contributed to the problem.)

Does anyone know of a source of replacement sleeves?


This actually may be possible if you want to spend some money getting the rubber sleeves from Japan. The Fujitsu Libertouch uses a similar rubber sleeve here is a link to them at diatec. Also seeing that diatec has them you may be able to get elitekeyboards to get them for you.
Keyboards
Topre Capacitive: Realforce 87U, Realforce 86U, HHKB Pro 2, Topre MD01B0, Topre HE0100, Sun Short Type, OEM NEO CS (x2), NISSHO Electronics KB106DE
Buckling Spring: IBM Model M Space Saver (1291472), Unicomp Customizer x 2
Cherry Brown: Filco FKBN87M/EB, Compaq MX11800
Black Alps: ABS M1
Not so great boards Rare Spring over dome OKI, Sun rack keyboard

Trackballs - Trackman Wheel (3), Trackman marble (2)
Keyboards I still want to get - Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro 2 the White version, Realforce 23U number pad in black and maybe white, μTRON ergo board with Topre switches.
Previously owned - [size=0]SiiG MiniTouch (White Alps), Scorpius M10 (Blue Cherry), IBM Model M13[/size]