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Offline Mattr567

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Should I swap the Green Alps from my Zenith to my V60?
« on: Sat, 14 November 2015, 19:43:19 »
I have a great condition Zenith Z-150 and I am thinking of swapping the Green Alps.

Should I? I feel bad about tearing it apart since it is such a great board and in good condition but I dislike the layout.
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Re: Should I swap the Green Alps from my Zenith to my V60?
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 14 November 2015, 19:45:58 »
I have a great condition Zenith Z-150 and I am thinking of swapping the Green Alps.

Should I? I feel bad about tearing it apart since it is such a great board and in good condition but I dislike the layout.

If the v60 is the board you want them in then put them in there.
The z-150 is an ugly ass board and I personally would want to harvest the switches for a different board.
It's like people who harvest nixxies and put them in kustoms.

The case and pcb of the board itself aren't all that valuable by any means.
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Re: Should I swap the Green Alps from my Zenith to my V60?
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 14 November 2015, 20:42:55 »
I feel bad about tearing it apart since it is such a great board and in good condition but I dislike the layout.

Do it. You need to have something that you enjoy using.
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Re: Should I swap the Green Alps from my Zenith to my V60?
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 15 November 2015, 07:58:15 »
The z-150 is an ugly ass board
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Re: Should I swap the Green Alps from my Zenith to my V60?
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 15 November 2015, 08:24:24 »

I have a great condition Zenith Z-150 and I am thinking of swapping the Green Alps.

Should I? I feel bad about tearing it apart since it is such a great board and in good condition but I dislike the layout.

If you do end up swapping, you may consider selling or donating the remaining bits to someone who wants to put it back together with other switches.

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Re: Should I swap the Green Alps from my Zenith to my V60?
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 15 November 2015, 13:09:26 »
I have a great condition Zenith Z-150 and I am thinking of swapping the Green Alps.

Should I? I feel bad about tearing it apart since it is such a great board and in good condition but I dislike the layout.

I recently desoldered the Greens from my Z-150 and put them in a Filco Zero a few days ago, was 100% worth it. The Z-150 takes up a lot of desk space. I took the left over parts to be recycled earlier today.

If Greens are the switch you want to use in your V60 i would say its certainly worth the effort swapping them.

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Re: Should I swap the Green Alps from my Zenith to my V60?
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 15 November 2015, 13:19:04 »
I have a great condition Zenith Z-150 and I am thinking of swapping the Green Alps.

Should I? I feel bad about tearing it apart since it is such a great board and in good condition but I dislike the layout.

I recently desoldered the Greens from my Z-150 and put them in a Filco Zero a few days ago, was 100% worth it. The Z-150 takes up a lot of desk space. I took the left over parts to be recycled earlier today.

If Greens are the switch you want to use in your V60 i would say its certainly worth the effort swapping them.

Sounds like a good board. Assuming you didnt throw away the keycaps or remaining switches!

The z-150 is an ugly ass board
Get out. Right now.

You sure are hungry for a Z-150 :P
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Compaq MX 11800, MX Black, 1997

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Re: Should I swap the Green Alps from my Zenith to my V60?
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 15 November 2015, 13:20:35 »
Looks like ill be doing it when I have some time. Would Green Alps that have LEDs the light up if I soldered them in?
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Re: Should I swap the Green Alps from my Zenith to my V60?
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 15 November 2015, 15:56:14 »
The z-150 is an ugly ass board
Get out. Right now.

You sure are hungry for a Z-150 :P
I consider it a moral offence to destroy a board with the looks, character and history of a Z-150. Especially to put just the switches into something as vulgar, bland and tasteless as a V60.

It's like taking the steering wheel off a classic Jag to put the steering wheel on a pink Hummer with blue neon lights under it :p .
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Re: Should I swap the Green Alps from my Zenith to my V60?
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 15 November 2015, 18:59:16 »

I consider it a moral offence to destroy a board with the looks, character and history of a Z-150. Especially to put just the switches into something as vulgar, bland and tasteless as a V60.


A keyboard is a tool that we use every day. The first requirement is to have a top-shelf specimen that you are totally happy and comfortable with under your fingertips, day in and day out.

After that functional requirement is satisfied, you can move into "hobbyist" and/or "collector" mode.
"However, even though I was born in the Mesozoic, I do know what anyone who wants to reach out to young people should say: Billionaires took your money. They took your chance to buy a home. They took your chance at a good education. They stole your opportunities. Billionaires took the things you want in life. If you really want those things, you have to take them back.
That's the message. That's the whole message. Say that every day, not just to reach America's frustrated young white men, but people of every age, race, and gender.
Late-stage capitalism is a wealth-concentration engine, focused on vacuuming up every dollar and putting it in as few hands as possible. Republicans are helping that vacuum suck.
How does a tiny fraction of the population get away with this? They do it by dividing the other 99% of Americans against themselves."
- Marc Sumner 2025-05-30

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Re: Should I swap the Green Alps from my Zenith to my V60?
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 15 November 2015, 19:44:24 »

I consider it a moral offence to destroy a board with the looks, character and history of a Z-150. Especially to put just the switches into something as vulgar, bland and tasteless as a V60.


A keyboard is a tool that we use every day. The first requirement is to have a top-shelf specimen that you are totally happy and comfortable with under your fingertips, day in and day out.

After that functional requirement is satisfied, you can move into "hobbyist" and/or "collector" mode.


I think I am with Chyros on this one. I think there are too many people tearing up old boards because the switches have some panache within the community. Even more so since many people tend to move on the the next flavor of the month quickly as opposed to creating something they will use for years. This is just my feeling. If that's what they want to do, that's their choice. I would just propose that they ask themselves if they are doing it to have a keyboard that better suits their personal needs and preferences or are they making something for show and tell / bragging rights.
 
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Offline Mattr567

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Re: Should I swap the Green Alps from my Zenith to my V60?
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 15 November 2015, 21:00:45 »
The z-150 is an ugly ass board
Get out. Right now.

You sure are hungry for a Z-150 :P
I consider it a moral offence to destroy a board with the looks, character and history of a Z-150. Especially to put just the switches into something as vulgar, bland and tasteless as a V60.

It's like taking the steering wheel off a classic Jag to put the steering wheel on a pink Hummer with blue neon lights under it :p .

Nice analogy.

It is a really nice board, but the layout and size just doesnt work for me. Not completely sure since ill be picking up a IBM 5140 with Brown Tactile Alps, may use those instead. Could always use the Matias Clicks in the IBM to keep the PC functional. We'll see ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Seeing you want a Zenith (and love your videos) ill consider a trade for it. ;)


I would just propose that they ask themselves if they are doing it to have a keyboard that better suits their personal needs and preferences or are they making something for show and tell / bragging rights.

Great point right there.
Wang 725-3770 SKCM Brown, 1995
Zenith 163-73 - SKCM Blue, 1990
KBP V60 MTS - SKCM Amber w/ Canon HiPros
IBM P77, SKCC Green, 1984
IBM P70 - Alps Plate Spring, 1989
Compaq MX 11800, MX Black, 1997