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Re: [WTB] Mr Friday skull topre or mx = 650$
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Re: [WTB] CC Jack O'Lantern Skull MX = 1400 ( can deal more about the price )
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Re: [WTB] CC Jack O'Lantern Skull MX = 1400 ( can deal more about the price )
« Reply #102 on: Wed, 14 September 2016, 17:23:35 »
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Re: [WTB] CC Jack O'Lantern Skull MX = 1400 ( can deal more about the price )
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Re: [WTB] CC Jack O'Lantern Skull MX = 1400 ( can deal more about the price )
« Reply #104 on: Mon, 19 September 2016, 09:31:46 »
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Re: [WTB] CC Jack O'Lantern Skull MX = 1400 ( can deal more about the price )
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Re: [WTB] SKull Salute MX with high price
« Reply #106 on: Fri, 23 September 2016, 14:48:31 »
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Re: [WTB] SKull Salute MX with high price
« Reply #107 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:06:29 »
I strongly recommend staying away from this buyer, Recently sent 2 high value artisans to him/his proxy, And one just happened to go missing, and he disputed the transaction. Not sure if it was the proxy or  nguyenkimtam, but be careful


Just won the paypal case and wanted to put out a warning.
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Re: [WTB] SKull Salute MX with high price
« Reply #108 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:21:17 »
Quote from: xvetter on Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:06:29
I strongly recommend staying away from this buyer, Recently sent 2 high value artisans to him/his proxy, And one just happened to go missing, and he disputed the transaction. Not sure if it was the proxy or  nguyenkimtam, but be careful


Just won the paypal case and wanted to put out a warning.
You have a "good " reputation in here so stop crying :) and well , show me the decision of paypal please :p
« Last Edit: Sun, 25 September 2016, 17:51:15 by nguyenkimtam »
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Re: [WTB] SKull Salute MX with high price
« Reply #109 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:26:24 »
Quote from: xvetter on Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:06:29
I strongly recommend staying away from this buyer, Recently sent 2 high value artisans to him/his proxy, And one just happened to go missing, and he disputed the transaction. Not sure if it was the proxy or  nguyenkimtam, but be careful


Just won the paypal case and wanted to put out a warning.

i've traded caps with nguyenkimtam via his state-side proxy recently and everything went smoothly.  he's always been very communicative and polite as well.  for high value stuff, i use signature confirmation along with priority shipping.
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Re: [WTB] SKull Salute MX with high price
« Reply #110 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:28:31 »
Quote from: naasfu on Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:26:24
Quote from: xvetter on Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:06:29
I strongly recommend staying away from this buyer, Recently sent 2 high value artisans to him/his proxy, And one just happened to go missing, and he disputed the transaction. Not sure if it was the proxy or  nguyenkimtam, but be careful


Just won the paypal case and wanted to put out a warning.

i've traded caps with nguyenkimtam via his state-side proxy recently and everything went smoothly.  he's always been very communicative and polite as well.  for high value stuff, i use signature confirmation along with priority shipping.

In my case I used first class mail and no insurance, The problem I have is that I was told that the reaper v1 was in the package while the Ice blue clack was not. They were both shipped in the same package so it simply doesn't add up.
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Re: [WTB] SKull Salute MX with high price
« Reply #111 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 17:31:26 »
Quote from: xvetter on Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:28:31
Quote from: naasfu on Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:26:24
Quote from: xvetter on Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:06:29
I strongly recommend staying away from this buyer, Recently sent 2 high value artisans to him/his proxy, And one just happened to go missing, and he disputed the transaction. Not sure if it was the proxy or  nguyenkimtam, but be careful


Just won the paypal case and wanted to put out a warning.

i've traded caps with nguyenkimtam via his state-side proxy recently and everything went smoothly.  he's always been very communicative and polite as well.  for high value stuff, i use signature confirmation along with priority shipping.

In my case I used first class mail and no insurance, The problem I have is that I was told that the reaper v1 was in the package while the Ice blue clack was not. They were both shipped in the same package so it simply doesn't add up.
I've never had an issue with any transaction him. Are you saying you didn't get the ice blue Clack? Wasn't that the same colorway you had on ebay like 2 weeks ago?
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Re: [WTB] SKull Salute MX with high price
« Reply #112 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 17:52:33 »
Tks guys
 Btw  just contacted again with paypal and they are re-opening the case ( wrong transaction issue lol )
« Last Edit: Sun, 25 September 2016, 17:55:33 by nguyenkimtam »
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Re: [WTB] SKull Salute MX with high price
« Reply #113 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 17:56:47 »
Quote from: xvetter on Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:28:31
Quote from: naasfu on Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:26:24
Quote from: xvetter on Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:06:29
I strongly recommend staying away from this buyer, Recently sent 2 high value artisans to him/his proxy, And one just happened to go missing, and he disputed the transaction. Not sure if it was the proxy or  nguyenkimtam, but be careful


Just won the paypal case and wanted to put out a warning.

i've traded caps with nguyenkimtam via his state-side proxy recently and everything went smoothly.  he's always been very communicative and polite as well.  for high value stuff, i use signature confirmation along with priority shipping.

In my case I used first class mail and no insurance, The problem I have is that I was told that the reaper v1 was in the package while the Ice blue clack was not. They were both shipped in the same package so it simply doesn't add up.
have done many transactions with him, so far, so good. And I don't know why would you send a CC without insurance. For such high-value items and sensitive cases like this, insurance makes things much more simple. 
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Re: [WTB] SKull Salute MX with high price
« Reply #114 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 17:57:41 »
Quote from: xvetter on Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:06:29
I strongly recommend staying away from this buyer, Recently sent 2 high value artisans to him/his proxy, And one just happened to go missing, and he disputed the transaction. Not sure if it was the proxy or  nguyenkimtam, but be careful


Just won the paypal case and wanted to put out a warning.

i have dealt with this user before w/o issue, pleasant dealings  :thumb:

sorry if this counts as thread crapping, but wanted to shed some positive light on any negativity
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Re: [WTB] SKull Salute MX with high price
« Reply #115 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:08:42 »
Quote from: PunksDead on Sun, 25 September 2016, 17:57:41
Quote from: xvetter on Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:06:29
I strongly recommend staying away from this buyer, Recently sent 2 high value artisans to him/his proxy, And one just happened to go missing, and he disputed the transaction. Not sure if it was the proxy or  nguyenkimtam, but be careful


Just won the paypal case and wanted to put out a warning.

i have dealt with this user before w/o issue, pleasant dealings  :thumb:

sorry if this counts as thread crapping, but wanted to shed some positive light on any negativity
i dealt with that flipper 1 time before , and it was ok , but this one is different . He won't try to solve this , just want to claim me and my proxy make a mistake or scamming. Therefor , i believe there are many people know he is a bad guy
« Last Edit: Sun, 25 September 2016, 19:14:50 by nguyenkimtam »
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Re: [WTB] SKull Salute MX with high price
« Reply #116 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:14:56 »
Quote from: nguyenkimtam on Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:08:42
Quote from: PunksDead on Sun, 25 September 2016, 17:57:41
Quote from: xvetter on Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:06:29
I strongly recommend staying away from this buyer, Recently sent 2 high value artisans to him/his proxy, And one just happened to go missing, and he disputed the transaction. Not sure if it was the proxy or  nguyenkimtam, but be careful


Just won the paypal case and wanted to put out a warning.

i have dealt with this user before w/o issue, pleasant dealings  :thumb:

sorry if this counts as thread crapping, but wanted to shed some positive light on any negativity
i dealt with that flipper 1 time before , and also pleasant , but this one is different . He won't try to solve this , just want to claim me and my proxy make a mistake or scamming. Therefor , i believe there are many people know he is a bad guy

I tried to contact you AND your proxy many times to solve this issue you said "Not need to respond. I'm not received the ice blue clack so nothing to deal with it when you always said that i'm scam. So let paypal decided" Doesn't really look like you are being honest again.
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Re: [WTB] SKull Salute MX with high price
« Reply #117 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:17:34 »
Quote from: nguyenkimtam on Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:17:34
Quote from: xvetter on Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:14:56
Quote from: nguyenkimtam on Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:08:42
Quote from: PunksDead on Sun, 25 September 2016, 17:57:41
Quote from: xvetter on Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:06:29
I strongly recommend staying away from this buyer, Recently sent 2 high value artisans to him/his proxy, And one just happened to go missing, and he disputed the transaction. Not sure if it was the proxy or  nguyenkimtam, but be careful


Just won the paypal case and wanted to put out a warning.

i have dealt with this user before w/o issue, pleasant dealings  :thumb:

sorry if this counts as thread crapping, but wanted to shed some positive light on any negativity
i dealt with that flipper 1 time before , and also pleasant , but this one is different . He won't try to solve this , just want to claim me and my proxy make a mistake or scamming. Therefor , i believe there are many people know he is a bad guy

I tried to contact you AND your proxy many times to solve this issue you said "Not need to respond. I'm not received the ice blue clack so nothing to deal with it when you always said that i'm scam. So let paypal decided" Doesn't really look like you are being honest again.
Get back to some first messages flipper , i just asked you" have shipped my ice blue clack ", and then you just claim my proxy throw it away , is that right ? i want to deal with you in the first time , but you always claim the faults belong to me and my proxy , so there nothing to say , this message i just sent you today ( is that right )  because  i'm escalating in paypal :)
And then he never try to contact through Paypal when i open the case :)

Some chat log to show that i tried to be nice but he didn't , just claim :thumb:

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Quote from: xvetter on Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:14:56
Quote from: nguyenkimtam on Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:08:42
Quote from: PunksDead on Sun, 25 September 2016, 17:57:41
Quote from: xvetter on Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:06:29
I strongly recommend staying away from this buyer, Recently sent 2 high value artisans to him/his proxy, And one just happened to go missing, and he disputed the transaction. Not sure if it was the proxy or  nguyenkimtam, but be careful


Just won the paypal case and wanted to put out a warning.

i have dealt with this user before w/o issue, pleasant dealings  :thumb:

sorry if this counts as thread crapping, but wanted to shed some positive light on any negativity
i dealt with that flipper 1 time before , and also pleasant , but this one is different . He won't try to solve this , just want to claim me and my proxy make a mistake or scamming. Therefor , i believe there are many people know he is a bad guy

I tried to contact you AND your proxy many times to solve this issue you said "Not need to respond. I'm not received the ice blue clack so nothing to deal with it when you always said that i'm scam. So let paypal decided" Doesn't really look like you are being honest again.
Get back to some first messages flipper , i just asked you" have shipped my ice blue clack ", and then you just claim my proxy throw it away , is that right ? i want to deal with you in the first time , but you always claim the faults belong to me and my proxy , so there nothing to say , this message i just sent you today ( is that right )  because  i'm escalating in paypal :)
And then he never try to contact through Paypal when i open the case :)

Some chat log to show that i tried to be nice but he didn't , just claim :thumb:




« Last Edit: Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:30:43 by nguyenkimtam »
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« Reply #118 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:50:32 »
I have called paypal and resolved the issue, There is no need to be this upset
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« Reply #119 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:56:11 »
Case is re-opening so i'm not upset tho  ;)
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« Reply #120 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:58:23 »
Honestly no point as I was prepared for you to reopen the case
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Re: [WTB] SKull Salute MX with high price
« Reply #121 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 19:42:07 »
Quote from: xvetter on Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:06:29
I strongly recommend staying away from this buyer, Recently sent 2 high value artisans to him/his proxy, And one just happened to go missing, and he disputed the transaction. Not sure if it was the proxy or  nguyenkimtam, but be careful


Just won the paypal case and wanted to put out a warning.
I've traded many times with Nguyen, he is definitely a genuine person. I would suggest you guys to resolve the conflict with another approach other than paypal dispute.
I am so so so surprised that such high value items were not insured. :thinkingface:
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Re: [WTB] SKull Salute MX with high price
« Reply #122 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 19:43:40 »
Quote from: nguyenkimtam on Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:08:42
Quote from: PunksDead on Sun, 25 September 2016, 17:57:41
Quote from: xvetter on Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:06:29
I strongly recommend staying away from this buyer, Recently sent 2 high value artisans to him/his proxy, And one just happened to go missing, and he disputed the transaction. Not sure if it was the proxy or  nguyenkimtam, but be careful


Just won the paypal case and wanted to put out a warning.

i have dealt with this user before w/o issue, pleasant dealings  :thumb:

sorry if this counts as thread crapping, but wanted to shed some positive light on any negativity
i dealt with that flipper 1 time before , and it was ok , but this one is different . He won't try to solve this , just want to claim me and my proxy make a mistake or scamming. Therefor , i believe there are many people know he is a bad guy

i worded that wrong, i meant to say that i have dealt with YOU nguyenkimtam and have had pleasant dealings. i have no idea who the other guy is  :thumb:
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Re: [WTB] LZ SE, Koala ,Cherry OG Cyrillic Dyesub,OTD boards , Click Clack, Artisans
« Reply #123 on: Sun, 25 September 2016, 19:47:20 »
Quote from: PunksDead on Sun, 25 September 2016, 19:43:40
Quote from: nguyenkimtam on Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:08:42
Quote from: PunksDead on Sun, 25 September 2016, 17:57:41
Quote from: xvetter on Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:06:29
I strongly recommend staying away from this buyer, Recently sent 2 high value artisans to him/his proxy, And one just happened to go missing, and he disputed the transaction. Not sure if it was the proxy or  nguyenkimtam, but be careful


Just won the paypal case and wanted to put out a warning.

i have dealt with this user before w/o issue, pleasant dealings  :thumb:

sorry if this counts as thread crapping, but wanted to shed some positive light on any negativity
i dealt with that flipper 1 time before , and it was ok , but this one is different . He won't try to solve this , just want to claim me and my proxy make a mistake or scamming. Therefor , i believe there are many people know he is a bad guy

i worded that wrong, i meant to say that i have dealt with YOU nguyenkimtam and have had pleasant dealings. i have no idea who the other guy is  :thumb:
Ah i'm sorry man :) :thumb:
thanks you guys for supporting me :)
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« Reply #124 on: Mon, 26 September 2016, 00:38:27 »
Quote from: nguyenkimtam on Sun, 25 September 2016, 19:47:20
Quote from: PunksDead on Sun, 25 September 2016, 19:43:40
Quote from: nguyenkimtam on Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:08:42
Quote from: PunksDead on Sun, 25 September 2016, 17:57:41
Quote from: xvetter on Sun, 25 September 2016, 16:06:29
I strongly recommend staying away from this buyer, Recently sent 2 high value artisans to him/his proxy, And one just happened to go missing, and he disputed the transaction. Not sure if it was the proxy or  nguyenkimtam, but be careful


Just won the paypal case and wanted to put out a warning.

i have dealt with this user before w/o issue, pleasant dealings  :thumb:

sorry if this counts as thread crapping, but wanted to shed some positive light on any negativity
i dealt with that flipper 1 time before , and it was ok , but this one is different . He won't try to solve this , just want to claim me and my proxy make a mistake or scamming. Therefor , i believe there are many people know he is a bad guy

i worded that wrong, i meant to say that i have dealt with YOU nguyenkimtam and have had pleasant dealings. i have no idea who the other guy is  :thumb:
Ah i'm sorry man :) :thumb:
thanks you guys for supporting me :)

I've also dealt with nguyenkimtam before with some high value trades and have never had any issues. It's always best to use insurance and signature confirmation if you're dealing with items that you don't feel comfortable reimbursing or reshipping because it exists to protect everyone in case something happens because it's just not worth the hassle should something like this ever happen, regardless of fault or circumstances.
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« Reply #125 on: Mon, 26 September 2016, 00:45:19 »
I too have dealt with ngu before this, he is the nicest guy I have ever traded
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Re: [WTB] LZ SE, Koala ,Cherry OG Cyrillic Dyesub,OTD boards , Click Clack, Artisans
« Reply #126 on: Mon, 26 September 2016, 03:16:17 »
Let's all not forget that xvetter uses alt accounts to post ebay sales that he eventually cancels if he believes the item didn't sell for enough @SupportFriendly

Terrible person, nguyenkimtam is legit (over $5,000 bought from my friends alone)
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« Reply #127 on: Mon, 26 September 2016, 06:45:56 »
So it looks like I should have sent priority w/insurance in separate packages to avoid this. I am sorry for this happening but all I can explain is my side of the issue. The issue in this case is Minh Nguyen's/your refusal to provide any further information. I have notified Minh Nguyen several times and he only responded once with a very cryptic messages lacking necessary information. 
« Last Edit: Mon, 26 September 2016, 07:38:49 by xvetter »
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« Reply #128 on: Mon, 26 September 2016, 12:31:00 »
Actually , Minh Nguyen is one of my best friend in this community and real life as well , so i believe him more than anyone . He sometime keep around 5000$ of me and he completed for me around 30-40 transactions without any problems , so there is no point that i'm worrying about him  ;)
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« Reply #129 on: Fri, 30 September 2016, 02:57:35 »
Die die die
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« Reply #130 on: Fri, 30 September 2016, 08:52:05 »
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« Reply #131 on: Mon, 03 October 2016, 01:49:28 »
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« Reply #132 on: Thu, 06 October 2016, 03:08:33 »
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« Reply #133 on: Mon, 10 October 2016, 13:26:22 »
Crick Crack  :-*
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« Reply #134 on: Fri, 14 October 2016, 11:24:32 »
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Re: [WTB] LZ SE, Koala ,Cherry OG Cyrillic Dyesub,OTD boards , Click Clack, Artisans
« Reply #135 on: Wed, 19 October 2016, 06:51:02 »
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Re: [WTB] LZ SE, Koala ,Cherry OG Cyrillic Dyesub,OTD boards , Click Clack, Artisans
« Reply #137 on: Tue, 29 November 2016, 14:44:17 »
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Re: [WTB] LZ SE, Koala ,Cherry OG Cyrillic Dyesub,OTD boards , Click Clack, Artisans
« Reply #138 on: Wed, 30 November 2016, 07:11:41 »
not sure if you are still looking for that kmac mini but one just popped up on r/mechmarket. https://redd.it/5fouaq
hope that helps you on your search! :D
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Re: [WTB] LZ SE, Koala ,Cherry OG Cyrillic Dyesub,OTD boards , Click Clack, Artisans
« Reply #139 on: Thu, 01 December 2016, 04:11:20 »
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Re: [WTB] LZ SE, Koala ,Cherry OG Cyrillic Dyesub,OTD boards , Click Clack, Artisans
« Reply #140 on: Sun, 04 December 2016, 21:41:27 »
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Re: [WTB]Click Clack, Cherry OG Cyrillic, Artisans, Koala , Dolphin, OTD , LZ boards
« Reply #141 on: Thu, 22 December 2016, 13:42:38 »
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« Reply #142 on: Wed, 28 December 2016, 14:11:19 »
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« Reply #143 on: Fri, 30 December 2016, 15:22:55 »
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Re: [WTB]Click Clack, Cherry OG Cyrillic, Artisans, Koala , Dolphin, OTD , LZ boards
« Reply #144 on: Tue, 03 January 2017, 11:26:44 »
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« Reply #145 on: Sat, 21 January 2017, 00:49:48 »
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« Reply #146 on: Fri, 27 January 2017, 14:01:55 »
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Re: [WTB]Click Clack, Cherry OG Cyrillic, Artisans, Koala , Dolphin, OTD , LZ boards
« Reply #147 on: Sat, 25 February 2017, 11:51:56 »
long time  :))
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