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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 21 December 2015, 04:03:13 »
dude, nice find!

I've been meaning to try BS for a while now, so i might grab one of these.

the third one's missing a cap, the second one has a bit of a mangled cable, and the first one is a bit dirty

if you weren't planning on grabbing one of these yourself, do you think the first one is the best bet?

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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 21 December 2015, 04:23:43 »
Yes I think so.  Ideally I would prefer one with a removable cable, but the first one still looks nice - you don't see many UK manufactured Model M's come up for sale in Australia.

Also, the third one is missing one of the arrow caps which could be a bit troublesome to replace.  The Ctrl, Alt and Shift keys I usually replace with RGB ones from Unicomp :D
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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 21 December 2015, 04:25:24 »
dude, nice find!

I've been meaning to try BS for a while now, so i might grab one of these.

the third one's missing a cap, the second one has a bit of a mangled cable, and the first one is a bit dirty

if you weren't planning on grabbing one of these yourself, do you think the first one is the best bet?

Yeah go for the first one for sure. Such an awesome deal :)
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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 21 December 2015, 04:31:47 »
snagged it! $48 aud posted for me.

Thanks for the find strafe and thanks for the help guys!

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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 21 December 2015, 04:41:09 »
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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 21 December 2015, 08:23:34 »
If you buy one that's missing caps, get in touch with me. I might have spares.
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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 21 December 2015, 10:15:31 »
The third one would have been the best choice with the SDL cable.  Did you get that one?  Even though it is missing a left Ctrl and a left arrow, that could be replaced.

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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 21 December 2015, 10:48:40 »
First is 42H, and that's the only one I've heard about having a lot of problems.
Second one is 52G, which as far as I know is basically a cheaper-made 1391401... non-removable cable?
Third one is 1391401, clearly the best type of Model M apart from space savers.

I didn't even notice the left arrow.
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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 21 December 2015, 13:19:26 »
2/3 gone already!

Nothing wrong with a fixed cable - you just need a PS/2 to USB adaptor.  This one works well for me: http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/usb-to-ps2-serial-multimode-adapter
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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 24 December 2015, 07:12:52 »
The one that's left is still a great deal.  It's actually cleaner than the blue lable M I'm using right now, lol.

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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 24 December 2015, 17:36:43 »
I'm eventually going to buy one of these when they come up, as it'll be the perfect excuse to move to Oz, which I've always wanted to do, and save all that shipping.
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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 27 December 2015, 06:33:09 »
I'm eventually going to buy one of these when they come up, as it'll be the perfect excuse to move to Oz, which I've always wanted to do, and save all that shipping.
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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 27 December 2015, 07:27:25 »
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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 27 December 2015, 08:14:57 »
Is the cable fixable on the one that is left? can't tell if removable.
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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 27 December 2015, 08:22:16 »
got my board! (I bought the first link)

overall shape is pretty good bit dirty, minimal physical damage, almost no yellowing except the space bar. haven't plugged it in yet.

one thing that I have noticed is that the barrel plate (?) seems to be crooked, so that some keys' back faces catch on housing. also some keys don't actuate unless I push down a bit further than usual.

this is my first BS so I'm not sure what I should be expecting, but there's a bit of friction in the downpresses?

looking forward to taking it apart for a good cleaning and a bolt mod. my uneducated guess is that there are some broken rivets going on under there.

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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 27 December 2015, 08:28:40 »
Is the cable fixable on the one that is left? can't tell if removable.

The cable is non-removable.  You have to open the case and detach the cable from the controller, and replace the cable.  It's pretty simple to do.  You can order a new one from Unicomp, or make one with an older PS/2 cable, but be sure to get the pin-out's correct.

The good thing is, you can wire to the existing connector.



When you open the case, you can detach the controller from the keyboard, and the cable from the controller.  Replace the cable, hook up the controller, and you're done.

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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 27 December 2015, 08:29:52 »
Nice, well we will see who wins!
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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 27 December 2015, 08:36:08 »
Might get in on this as well haha

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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 27 December 2015, 12:13:02 »
one thing that I have noticed is that the barrel plate (?) seems to be crooked, so that some keys' back faces catch on housing. also some keys don't actuate unless I push down a bit further than usual.

this is my first BS so I'm not sure what I should be expecting, but there's a bit of friction in the downpresses?

looking forward to taking it apart for a good cleaning and a bolt mod. my uneducated guess is that there are some broken rivets going on under there.
Shouldn't be any friction, especially between the keycaps and the case.  I think your observation on the barrel plate being crooked might be a clue as to what may be going on.  It could be something as simple as it not being put back together correctly after being opened (for whatever reason).  Probably won't hurt to open it up and check to see if things seem to be in the right place.

It might have suffered some shipping damage, so make the seller aware of the issues.


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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 27 December 2015, 19:25:11 »
one thing that I have noticed is that the barrel plate (?) seems to be crooked, so that some keys' back faces catch on housing. also some keys don't actuate unless I push down a bit further than usual.

this is my first BS so I'm not sure what I should be expecting, but there's a bit of friction in the downpresses?

looking forward to taking it apart for a good cleaning and a bolt mod. my uneducated guess is that there are some broken rivets going on under there.
Shouldn't be any friction, especially between the keycaps and the case.  I think your observation on the barrel plate being crooked might be a clue as to what may be going on.  It could be something as simple as it not being put back together correctly after being opened (for whatever reason).  Probably won't hurt to open it up and check to see if things seem to be in the right place.

It might have suffered some shipping damage, so make the seller aware of the issues.

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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 28 December 2015, 00:30:41 »
one thing that I have noticed is that the barrel plate (?) seems to be crooked, so that some keys' back faces catch on housing. also some keys don't actuate unless I push down a bit further than usual.

this is my first BS so I'm not sure what I should be expecting, but there's a bit of friction in the downpresses?

looking forward to taking it apart for a good cleaning and a bolt mod. my uneducated guess is that there are some broken rivets going on under there.
Shouldn't be any friction, especially between the keycaps and the case.  I think your observation on the barrel plate being crooked might be a clue as to what may be going on.  It could be something as simple as it not being put back together correctly after being opened (for whatever reason).  Probably won't hurt to open it up and check to see if things seem to be in the right place.

It might have suffered some shipping damage, so make the seller aware of the issues.

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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 28 December 2015, 02:16:53 »
one thing that I have noticed is that the barrel plate (?) seems to be crooked, so that some keys' back faces catch on housing. also some keys don't actuate unless I push down a bit further than usual.

this is my first BS so I'm not sure what I should be expecting, but there's a bit of friction in the downpresses?

looking forward to taking it apart for a good cleaning and a bolt mod. my uneducated guess is that there are some broken rivets going on under there.
Shouldn't be any friction, especially between the keycaps and the case.  I think your observation on the barrel plate being crooked might be a clue as to what may be going on.  It could be something as simple as it not being put back together correctly after being opened (for whatever reason).  Probably won't hurt to open it up and check to see if things seem to be in the right place.

It might have suffered some shipping damage, so make the seller aware of the issues.

CONGRATS on 1000! :cool: You've made it to the big leagues baby
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Congrats :)

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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 28 December 2015, 04:20:52 »
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Re: (AUS) IBM Model M Keyboards - P/N 42H1292 and 1391401
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 29 December 2015, 07:31:42 »
Congrats :)

There's a milestone thread btw, where you're welcome to flaunt your post kount.

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