Author Topic: DUCKY104 - New Filco Clone? (Read 13698 times)

TheSoulhunter · « **on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 10:09:56 »

Seems this chinese guy who sells the KBC keycaps now also offers a Costar (Filco FKB104?) board!

ch_123 · « **Reply #1 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 12:20:25 »

Clone would imply that someone made an effort to copy something. That thing probably comes off the same production line as the Filcos. Whether it has a good controller or not in another question.

Ulysses31 · « **Reply #2 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 12:33:06 »

"Ducky"? That's a bit of a fruity name. Might as well be made out of pink plastic.

sixty · « **Reply #3 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 12:48:30 »

Seems like Costar indeed. There is also a 108 key version which might be strongman. Bottom of both boards does not look Costar typical, maybe both are produced by Strongman.

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lasered?

Cherry style stabilizers.. thats new. Very interesting.

no FCC id.

PCB Color and shape of the controller suggests Costar

sixty · « **Reply #4 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 13:16:58 »

Also available:

Italian Red and.... ducky yellow?

microsoft windows · « **Reply #5 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 13:34:39 »

I prefer programmable macro keys to those multimedia keys. Some day, those multimedia keys will have gone the same way of the Turbo button--becoming obsolete and dated.

PRISONER 24601 · « **Reply #6 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 13:59:45 »

Quote from: ripster;134991

They could have attempted something iRocks like Duck-e.

I like ducky. duck-e would just be obligatory and boring, like something you would expect a chinese ripoff concern to name their product.

If I were to order my own line of CST-104 boards, they would have one of those names that says "high quality american made product", where it's either a word which means "something regular" or just the last name of a person.

Something along the lines of SYNDICATED, WHITMAN, STANDARD, ANDERSON, or WESTERN. Most of those are probably already taken, but you get the gist of it.

I would buy a WHITMAN keyboard. You know you can trust Whitman.

D-EJ915 · « **Reply #7 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 13:59:53 »

that yellow one looks pretty nice, always have liked when keys go all the way cross the top like on suns

microsoft windows · « **Reply #8 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 14:05:09 »

I've already got plenty of yellow keyboards.

wordfool · « **Reply #9 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 14:18:22 »

maybe they're using the dodgy, discarded Das controllers

TheSoulhunter · « **Reply #10 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 14:42:27 »

Quote from: ripster;134942

Those KBC keys are nice. Thick as hell. Anybody know what kinda plastic? Looks definitely Pad Printed to me.

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It's PBT! So what Cherry uses for thier caps, right?

Quote from: ripster;134950

Do they sell overseas (I actually just want the keys)?

I ordered a dozen sets via this service...

Gonna post some pics/impressions as soon they arrive! ;)

PRISONER 24601 · « **Reply #11 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 14:54:50 »

Quote from: ripster;135016

I'm gonna name my keyboard "Wilford":
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"Crestfield-Neiman Keyboards. Because quality matters."

wordfool · « **Reply #12 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 15:02:58 »

Quote from: ripster;135017

That would be like putting lead in children's toys. Never happen

Hmmm...maybe that nice thick lettering paint has lead in it that'll slowly poison your fingers so they forget how to type.

wordfool · « **Reply #13 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 15:05:11 »

Quote from: TheSoulhunter;135026

I ordered a dozen sets via this service...

Gonna post some pics/impressions as soon they arrive!

Have you used yoyobuy... sorry, I mean yoybuy, before? The site scared the hell out of me.

PRISONER 24601 · « **Reply #14 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 15:25:10 »

Shipping from Asia would be ridiculous, though.

I would produce my keyboards in Honduras, maybe Ecuador.

I could pay my workers in scrib, and set up a puppet government that allows me to operate tax free.

TheSoulhunter · « **Reply #15 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 15:43:57 »

Quote from: wordfool;135031

Have you used yoyobuy... sorry, I mean yoybuy, before? The site scared the hell out of me.

No, and that is the only thing that stopped me from ordering ten dozen sets...

As they cost just 75 (or 130 RMB) per set one could make some win selling em in Euroland, heh?

wordfool · « **Reply #16 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 16:27:20 »

Quote from: PRISONER 24601;135034

I would produce my keyboards in Honduras, maybe Ecuador.

I hear Hugo is looking for entrepreneurs

PRISONER 24601 · « **Reply #17 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 17:14:19 »

Quote from: wordfool;135043

I hear Hugo is looking for entrepreneurs

I sort of understand what you're saying, but I stopped watching LOST in the middle of season three.

lmnop · « **Reply #18 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 17:25:05 »

Lost is a great show.

Christine and Jalad at Tanagra.

microsoft windows · « **Reply #19 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 17:56:43 »

Lost in Space?

didjamatic · « **Reply #20 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 18:04:25 »

No, LOST in Time and Space... 4 8 15 16 23 42

microsoft windows · « **Reply #21 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 18:07:52 »

Guess that show was too old for you...

Ulysses31 · « **Reply #22 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 19:03:26 »

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Lost is a great show.

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Christine and Jalad at Tanagra.

"When the walls fell."

Shawn Stanford · « **Reply #23 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 19:11:13 »

Quote from: lmnop;135051

Lost is a great show.
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Christine and Jalad at Tanagra.

Grats, Dude! That was a wicked obscure referece! Pisser! :lol:

lmnop · « **Reply #24 on:** Sat, 21 November 2009, 21:15:19 »

believe it or not under all that makeup is Paul Winfield who was also in The Wrath of Khan.

quadibloc · « **Reply #25 on:** Sun, 22 November 2009, 02:31:29 »

Since kbc-china.com is an invalid hostname, I tried Google.

Couldn't find anything about Ducky keyboards, but I found this interesting article:

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/web/library/wa-cranky50.html

If only IBM had known about Baby Duck Syndrome, the PC could have gone straight to the 101-key Extended keyboard, or something like it, but with only 83 keys, to keep costs reasonable.

quadibloc · « **Reply #26 on:** Sun, 22 November 2009, 02:34:50 »

Quote from: didjamatic;135064

No, LOST in Time and Space...

The one where the Doctor was playing first base (the shortstop, presumably, was a Dalek)?

lmnop · « **Reply #27 on:** Sun, 22 November 2009, 07:40:28 »

canadian pride

ak_nala · « **Reply #28 on:** Mon, 23 November 2009, 03:52:30 »

Quote from: PRISONER 24601;135001

If I were to order my own line of CST-104 boards, they would have one of those names that says "high quality american made product", where it's either a word which means "something regular" or just the last name of a person.

Something along the lines of SYNDICATED, WHITMAN, STANDARD, ANDERSON, or WESTERN.

- CLARK-NOVA -

They would be good for writing reports.

imsto · « **Reply #29 on:** Mon, 23 November 2009, 08:40:12 »

try bbs.kbc-china.com or http://www.kbc-china.com
ducky keycaps are made of abs

KBC keycaps are PBT

imsto · « **Reply #30 on:** Mon, 23 November 2009, 21:23:20 »

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Imsto - do you know what Filco keys are made of? PVC?
And what about Topres? PBT?
And finally IBM? ABS?

filco abs ink printing and coat(in english? )
topres pbt dye
ibm pbt dye

PRISONER 24601 · « **Reply #31 on:** Mon, 23 November 2009, 21:46:14 »

Some of these boards look really, really nice.

Has anyone figured out if they ship to the US, or what they're charging?

imsto · « **Reply #32 on:** Mon, 23 November 2009, 22:14:22 »

Quote from: ripster;135760

Thanks for the information. Can you tell me how you found this out? The key lettering we figured out with some simple tests (we agree with all your findings) but plastics is hard.

u r wlcome:welcome:
just by touching watching feeling. and magnifying glass
abs pbt pom are quite different plastic.
abs is easy to get sticky, it's not that wearable.
pbt pom are better. there is a kind of ZR keycaps,
zr are used for medical things, hard self-lubricate and healthy, one guy in China has made some keycaps by zr， it would be much more expensive than pbt or pom.

imsto · « **Reply #33 on:** Mon, 23 November 2009, 22:25:11 »

Quote from: ripster;135760

Thanks for the information. Can you tell me how you found this out? The key lettering we figured out with some simple tests (we agree with all your findings) but plastics is hard.

:welcome:
just by touching feeling and magnifying glass.
abs's easy to get sticky, pom and pbt are better.

pbt 's hard but brickle, pom's slippery
one guy here in China's made some keycaps of ZR
seems very hard, self-lubricate and healthy(manmade bones minght be made of ZR)
i've got 4 zr keycaps, it's realy hard.

imsto · « **Reply #34 on:** Mon, 23 November 2009, 22:26:01 »

twice again...........

savage · « **Reply #35 on:** Mon, 23 November 2009, 22:28:37 »

Do you ship to US or Canada? What is the product price and shipping cost?

Thanks

imsto · « **Reply #36 on:** Mon, 23 November 2009, 22:39:53 »

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Do you ship to US or Canada? What is the product price and shipping cost?

Thanks

ducky?
104blue：580
104black：630
104brown：630
108blue：650
108black：680
108brown：680 all RMB
i do not know the exact shipping cost, i will check it.
maybe DHL or ...

bbranigin · « **Reply #37 on:** Mon, 23 November 2009, 23:24:54 »

what currency are those numbers in? yuan?

PRISONER 24601 · « **Reply #38 on:** Tue, 24 November 2009, 00:51:15 »

Quote from: imsto;135782

ducky?
104blue：580
104black：630
104brown：630
108blue：650
108black：680
108brown：680 all RMB
i do not know the exact shipping cost, i will check it.
maybe DHL or ...

that's like $100 + something like $50 shipping maybe? more? I don't know, I've never imported anything from China before.

not bad for one of those 108 key brown cherry boards. those look pretty slick. Pricey for a cst104 but if they're half as nice as they look... I'd pick one up in a second.

You fellas should find a US distributor or something.

imsto · « **Reply #39 on:** Tue, 24 November 2009, 01:05:47 »

yeah maybe we should find one....
3kg pkg to USA about 600rmb almost the same as the kbd.....by fedex

ch_123 · « **Reply #40 on:** Tue, 24 November 2009, 10:09:35 »

Are the keycaps sold seperately?

imsto · « **Reply #41 on:** Tue, 24 November 2009, 19:43:36 »

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Are the keycaps sold seperately?

37 keycaps for 75RMB now, but white, black ,and the ones on that plum(how to express this collor? like a little green and a little black and a little blue.....GBB?lol) for 130RMB.

btw buy any ducky will get a 37 GBB keycaps set for free

PRISONER 24601 · « **Reply #42 on:** Wed, 25 November 2009, 10:10:39 »

I'll be seeing a nice 3rd party review before I pick one up personally, but ya know that's just me.

joneslee85 · « **Reply #43 on:** Wed, 25 November 2009, 10:32:19 »

Quote from: imsto;135782

ducky?
104blue：580
104black：630
104brown：630
108blue：650
108black：680
108brown：680 all RMB
i do not know the exact shipping cost, i will check it.
maybe DHL or ...

I have ordered for myself a 104black + bunch of keycaps. It would be processed by imsto first and get to me in next 20 days. I will post the review upon receiving it.

patrickgeekhack · « **Reply #44 on:** Wed, 25 November 2009, 10:33:22 »

Quote from: PRISONER 24601;136203

I'll be seeing a nice 3rd party review before I pick one up personally, but ya know that's just me.

There is nothing wrong with waiting for a review before buying. I tried to look for reviews whenever I can. Of course, there are times when reviews are non-existent or not conclusive and we have to decide what to do.

imsto · « **Reply #45 on:** Wed, 25 November 2009, 10:51:12 »

Quote from: patrickgeekhack;136207

There is nothing wrong with waiting for a review before buying. I tried to look for reviews whenever I can. Of course, there are times when reviews are non-existent or not conclusive and we have to decide what to do.

u r right.

imsto · « **Reply #46 on:** Wed, 25 November 2009, 10:53:14 »

pics from one guy, he can take good photos

quadibloc · « **Reply #47 on:** Wed, 25 November 2009, 11:14:21 »

I recognized the abbreviations ABS, PBT, and POM as being for types of plastic - POM I had only learned about recently from here. ZR was not familiar, since I presumed it wasn't being used to refer to the metal Zirconium.

It took some doing to Google it up, but apparently it refers to Zaitform Resins.

imsto · « **Reply #48 on:** Wed, 25 November 2009, 11:18:54 »

Quote from: ripster;136214

Feet + Controller = Costar. I'm sure of it now.

comfused....

imsto · « **Reply #49 on:** Wed, 25 November 2009, 11:34:17 »

even abs keycaps are different such as the percents of graphite

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Author Topic: DUCKY104 - New Filco Clone? (Read 13698 times)