[GB] R2 PURPLE ZEALIO SWITCHES (Complete)

[Ephemeral]

What's the difference on the opened R1 R2 pic? Seems like I'm too noob to see the difference

Any significant difference that I'm suppose to be looking at?
Wasn't in the R1 gb. 

The only thing I can see is the difference in thickness of the housing. My baby eyes may be deceiving me, though.
I circled where I'm seeing it.

[Zeal]

What's the difference on the opened R1 R2 pic? Seems like I'm too noob to see the difference

Any significant difference that I'm suppose to be looking at?
Wasn't in the R1 gb. 

The only thing I can see is the difference in thickness of the housing. My baby eyes may be deceiving me, though.
I circled where I'm seeing it.

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No...that's just a misalignment of the switch bottoms.

I'm referring to the leaf bend

I see that you're sold out on the GH V3 Thick Lube.

Will you have it back in stock before the Zealios ship out?

Working on getting another batch in, but unlikely they'd arrive in time.

Is it the same formula as the ones in techkeys?

Roughly the same. The formula is always being tweaked by Geekhackers.

I'm just making sure I get what lube you recommended (the one on zealpc of course but the thick and spring are sold out). Cause this should be my end game MX type switch.

What's the difference on the opened R1 R2 pic? Seems like I'm too noob to see the difference

would like to know what lube to get as well

Working on getting a thick lube formula with Geekhackers. Will update in here when I get my first batch in. It can be used as spring and thick switch lube.

[pichu23]

What's the difference on the opened R1 R2 pic? Seems like I'm too noob to see the difference

Any significant difference that I'm suppose to be looking at?
Wasn't in the R1 gb. 

The only thing I can see is the difference in thickness of the housing. My baby eyes may be deceiving me, though.
I circled where I'm seeing it.

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No...that's just a misalignment of the switch bottoms.

I'm referring to the leaf bend

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Ah... right. I see it now :D

[64rky]

What's the difference on the opened R1 R2 pic? Seems like I'm too noob to see the difference

Any significant difference that I'm suppose to be looking at?
Wasn't in the R1 gb. 

The only thing I can see is the difference in thickness of the housing. My baby eyes may be deceiving me, though.
I circled where I'm seeing it.

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No...that's just a misalignment of the switch bottoms.

I'm referring to the leaf bend

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I see that you're sold out on the GH V3 Thick Lube.

Will you have it back in stock before the Zealios ship out?

Working on getting another batch in, but unlikely they'd arrive in time.

Is it the same formula as the ones in techkeys?

Roughly the same. The formula is always being tweaked by Geekhackers.

I'm just making sure I get what lube you recommended (the one on zealpc of course but the thick and spring are sold out). Cause this should be my end game MX type switch.

What's the difference on the opened R1 R2 pic? Seems like I'm too noob to see the difference :p

would like to know what lube to get as well :P

Working on getting a thick lube formula with Geekhackers. Will update in here when I get my first batch in. It can be used as spring and thick switch lube.

Lube,  girth...  Are we still talking about switches here?

[Drift Monkey]

What's the difference on the opened R1 R2 pic? Seems like I'm too noob to see the difference

Any significant difference that I'm suppose to be looking at?
Wasn't in the R1 gb. 

The only thing I can see is the difference in thickness of the housing. My baby eyes may be deceiving me, though.
I circled where I'm seeing it.

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No...that's just a misalignment of the switch bottoms.

I'm referring to the leaf bend

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Ah... right. I see it now :D

At first I thought it was the whole switch housing, then I realized it was jsut the perspective of the shot. :D

[MMjacksN]

I was just able to order some of the V3 thick lube.

Maybe someone else cancelled their order?

EDIT: I can see now that you changed it to "pre-order".

[nostalico]

Oh **** I missed it!! Does soft close mean that I can still order some? If that adds any annoyances then I understand and wont order

[Zeal]

You can still order. I'm just finalizing my order tonight and will be limiting the switch quantities now.

[KaminKevCrew]

i have a bit of a noob question... but if i want my zeal switches (67g with 78g space/backspace/return) to have the ultimate "ca-thump" feel, should I be picking up the foam pad stickers on massdrop? I already have some rubber 50A o-rings waiting to go with them as well. For what its worth, i'm building a Sentraq S60-X

Those GMK QMX clips only work on PCB mounted keyboards. So any keyboard with a plate will not be compatible with the QMX Clips. I am developing something similar that can support plate mounted keyboards though. Stay tuned. 

This makes me want to trampoline mod the zealio/Aristotle combo switches that I'll be doing, so that I can get a silenced bottom out and a silenced upstroke so that all I'll hear is the wonderful click! Oooooo that would be exciting!!!

[Spaceman1200]

Sorry, joined a bit late for 120

[onmybikedrunk]

I am also looking to place a last minute pre-order today!  BUT I have a question...


As far as LEDs, I know these were "opened up" for RGB, but having never built an LED keyboard, do Zealios accept standard 3mm LEDs also?  Might be a dumb question, but I couldn't find any reference to LEDs.

[Zeal]

I am also looking to place a last minute pre-order today!  BUT I have a question...


As far as LEDs, I know these were "opened up" for RGB, but having never built an LED keyboard, do Zealios accept standard 3mm LEDs also?  Might be a dumb question, but I couldn't find any reference to LEDs.

Yes, they accept 3mm, 2x3x4mm, 1.8mm, and future 4 pin RGB LEDs.

[onmybikedrunk]

Awesome!  Thanks Zeal! I just placed an eleventh-hour order for a qty of 120!  I'm really excited that I was able to catch this before it ended... Thanks for your hard work!

[bnthor]

Ordered as well, thx man! 60 x 67g and 4 x 78g, for the bigger keys. Can't wait to build my first keyboard with those 

[Quakemz]

Any estimate on ship date? I'm stoked to use these smooth 62g Zealios for my first custom board!

[eksuen]

Any estimate on ship date? I'm stoked to use these smooth 62g Zealios for my first custom board!

I feel a growing trend of people not bothering to read all the information provided...

From Zeal's website where you place your order:
"Orders will "soft close" on March 1, 2016 23:59:59 PST.  After this time, the order will be placed with the manufacturer. Pre-order pricing will remain until the product is fully received. Production time + shipping will take roughly 2 weeks. Reshipping bulk order from Zeal PC to you will take roughly 3 weeks. Orders are shipped based on a first-come-first-serve basis. "

[Zeal]

I don't believe waterclear 4 pin RGB LEDs have been used in RGB keyboards yet... Just got this sample freshly produced

Anyone interested in developing a 4 pin RGB LED PCB?




I'll be stocking a few thousand of these 4pin RGB LEDs soon.

[hnaeht]

Just something I noticed when opening up R1 & R2 Zealios.

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Sorry, phone pic.

What do you mean? I dont see any differences between them

[pichu23]

Just something I noticed when opening up R1 & R2 Zealios.

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Sorry, phone pic.

What do you mean? I dont see any differences between them
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Here. He posted it above actually lol.

[Atredl]

I don't believe waterclear 4 pin RGB LEDs have been used in RGB keyboards yet... Just got this sample freshly produced

Anyone interested in developing a 4 pin RGB LED PCB?

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I'll be stocking a few thousand of these 4pin RGB LEDs soon.

Yes please! 4pin RGB compatible PCB is one of the things I'm waiting for!

[William_S_Jones]

Thanks for the extension Zeal. I just ordered 60 78g purple Zealios switches. I believe these will be going in my Golbat40 when it finally arrives. Til then, I'm looking forward to your 67g purple zealios with my incoming White Fox keyboard.

[spanyam]

Thanks for the extension, Zeal. I'm also in for 90 of the 65g switches. I plan to build my first custom 60% using these and probably the GON + plate from LeandreN's GB.

[regack]

I don't believe waterclear 4 pin RGB LEDs have been used in RGB keyboards yet... Just got this sample freshly produced

Anyone interested in developing a 4 pin RGB LED PCB?

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I'll be stocking a few thousand of these 4pin RGB LEDs soon.

Yes please! 4pin RGB compatible PCB is one of the things I'm waiting for!

 

I've made a SMD 0606 RGB LED PCB - I think making alterations to support 4 pin LEDs might not be too much of a stretch.  That said, it's a very busy PCB since I have it controlled by WS2811 ICs instead of some other controller.  In fact, I'm waiting for this R2 purchase in order to complete my  little 40% board.  They draw a lot of power, that's the one thing I've noticed so far. 

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Do you have some footprint info for that LED?  I'll see what I can work out. 

[spanyam]

One more question. Is there a good guide anywhere on how to lube a Zealio switch? Is it significantly different from lubing an MX? (I've never done either) Also, what's the most recommended lube to use on Zealios?

[Waateva]

One more question. Is there a good guide anywhere on how to lube a Zealio switch? Is it significantly different from lubing an MX? (I've never done either) Also, what's the most recommended lube to use on Zealios?

My understanding is that Zealios switches come lightly lubed right from the factory but that with how smooth they are it's not really needed.  If you decided to lube them though, I don't see why they would be any different than a standard Cherry switch.

[Chewypost]

I don't believe waterclear 4 pin RGB LEDs have been used in RGB keyboards yet... Just got this sample freshly produced

Anyone interested in developing a 4 pin RGB LED PCB?

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I'll be stocking a few thousand of these 4pin RGB LEDs soon.

Yes please! 4pin RGB compatible PCB is one of the things I'm waiting for!

 

I've made a SMD 0606 RGB LED PCB - I think making alterations to support 4 pin LEDs might not be too much of a stretch.  That said, it's a very busy PCB since I have it controlled by WS2811 ICs instead of some other controller.  In fact, I'm waiting for this R2 purchase in order to complete my  little 40% board.  They draw a lot of power, that's the one thing I've noticed so far. 

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Do you have some footprint info for that LED?  I'll see what I can work out.

Uh oh.. I may have to switch out my plan and pcb x.X. Is it hard to find a pcb with 4pin LED support?

[spanyam]

My understanding is that Zealios switches come lightly lubed right from the factory but that with how smooth they are it's not really needed.  If you decided to lube them though, I don't see why they would be any different than a standard Cherry switch.

Oh I see. I do remember seeing Zeal mention that it's highly recommended to lube them just to get the best out of the switches. But okay, thanks. I'll take a look at them once they're in. Which lube is generally recommended (silicone / oil / grease / thick vs thin)?

[jebbra]

My understanding is that Zealios switches come lightly lubed right from the factory but that with how smooth they are it's not really needed.  If you decided to lube them though, I don't see why they would be any different than a standard Cherry switch.

Oh I see. I do remember seeing Zeal mention that it's highly recommended to lube them just to get the best out of the switches. But okay, thanks. I'll take a look at them once they're in. Which lube is generally recommended (silicone / oil / grease / thick vs thin)?

Based on Zeal advice and GH Lube description on zealpc the thick lube is suitable for purple zealios and other tactile switch like brown and clear while the thin lube is for clear zealios and other linear switch like red and black. GH Lube is Krytox mix btw.

I myself ended up pre-ordered GH thick lube from zealpc as I order 65g purple zealios.

[Bromono]

I don't believe waterclear 4 pin RGB LEDs have been used in RGB keyboards yet... Just got this sample freshly produced

Anyone interested in developing a 4 pin RGB LED PCB?

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I'll be stocking a few thousand of these 4pin RGB LEDs soon.

What is the benefit of 4 pin over 2 pin?

Just curious.

[spanyam]

Based on Zeal advice and GH Lube description on zealpc the thick lube is suitable for purple zealios and other tactile switch like brown and clear while the thin lube is for clear zealios and other linear switch like red and black. GH Lube is Krytox mix btw.

I myself ended up pre-ordered GH thick lube from zealpc as I order 65g purple zealios.

Perfect, that's exactly what I wanted to know. Now to check if Zeal will allow me to add the lube to an existing order of switches and have them shipped together.

[Vimto]

I don't believe waterclear 4 pin RGB LEDs have been used in RGB keyboards yet... Just got this sample freshly produced

Anyone interested in developing a 4 pin RGB LED PCB?

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I'll be stocking a few thousand of these 4pin RGB LEDs soon.

What is the benefit of 4 pin over 2 pin?

Just curious.

I think 4 pin supports RGB. 2 pin only supports one colour.

[Bromono]

I don't believe waterclear 4 pin RGB LEDs have been used in RGB keyboards yet... Just got this sample freshly produced

Anyone interested in developing a 4 pin RGB LED PCB?

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I'll be stocking a few thousand of these 4pin RGB LEDs soon.

What is the benefit of 4 pin over 2 pin?

Just curious.

I think 4 pin supports RGB. 2 pin only supports one colour.

Ahh okay. Makes sense now. Surprised there are not PCBs that support that already out.

[Liam]

Hi Zeal. Can you help me to check my order? I remember I purchased last month but I just have my paypal transaction )

[Zeal]

Do you have some footprint info for that LED?  I'll see what I can work out. 

Sure. Here's the spec sheet: LED must be facing up when designing the PCB (meaning switch logo is upside down).

Hi Zeal. Can you help me to check my order? I remember I purchased last month but I just have my paypal transaction )

You should have received an email confirmation of your order as well. The PayPal transaction should also have the details. Regardless, please PM me your transaction # and I'll let you know your order.

[yomammary]

Had to order.

[regack]

Do you have some footprint info for that LED?  I'll see what I can work out. 

Sure. Here's the spec sheet: LED must be facing up when designing the PCB (meaning switch logo is upside down).

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Thanks Zeal.  Overlapping/optional switch positions are... more complicated with this.  Not sure that some of them are actually possible except by jumpers or something.  I'll make a test board with this.   Is it possible for me to buy some of these LEDs to add onto my R2 order so I can test?

[Zeal]

Do you have some footprint info for that LED?  I'll see what I can work out. 

Sure. Here's the spec sheet: LED must be facing up when designing the PCB (meaning switch logo is upside down).

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Thanks Zeal.  Overlapping/optional switch positions are... more complicated with this.  Not sure that some of them are actually possible except by jumpers or something.  I'll make a test board with this.   Is it possible for me to buy some of these LEDs to add onto my R2 order so I can test?

Please PM me your order #. I'll include a few for free. :)

Forgot to mention. The RGB LEDs are common anode.

[WNovizar]

Hello zeal, I joined this GB, but is it possible to change shipping address again?

[Zeal]

Hello zeal, I joined this GB, but is it possible to change shipping address again?

Please PM / email me the change, thanks.

[bmilcs]

Hello zeal, I joined this GB, but is it possible to change shipping address again?

Please PM / email me the change, thanks.

Hey Zeal; when is the cut-off poiint? I'm still thinking about doing this group buy

Also, has anyone swapped stock MX Clear springs into these?

[Zeal]

Hello zeal, I joined this GB, but is it possible to change shipping address again?

Please PM / email me the change, thanks.

Hey Zeal; when is the cut-off poiint? I'm still thinking about doing this group buy

Also, has anyone swapped stock MX Clear springs into these?

Order has been placed, and the buy is still "open" til I receive the switches mid March.

[WNovizar]

Hi zeal. The address is correct so proceed accordingly

[Zeal]

Quick update:

March 7/8 update:
Switches are currently in production and are scheduled to complete on March 15/16.

Orders are still open, and quantities have been set. Switch price will remain the same until order arrives.

[Waateva]

Quick update:

March 7/8 update:
Switches are currently in production and are scheduled to complete on March 15/16.

Orders are still open, and quantities have been set. Switch price will remain the same until order arrives.

yay

[spwath]

Ordered 80 65g plate mounted switches.

[jebbra]

Quick update:

March 7/8 update:
Switches are currently in production and are scheduled to complete on March 15/16.

Orders are still open, and quantities have been set. Switch price will remain the same until order arrives.

HYPE!

The 65g milky bottom is like this current SMD LED Gateron on MD?


Or like the old Gateron?

[bmilcs]

Hey guys. What spring do you recommend for me here? I have found that Pok3r MX Clears are too soft for me and KUL ES-87 were about ideal. The KUL's are thicker looking, more robust springs. What 24k spring do you suggest for mine? 100g?

[Diokhan]

Hey Zeal I ordered the 78g switches.
They support leds right?
If so can I order the orange ones from you? (will they fit?)
And what else should I order for building my first KB

[Zeal]

Quick update:

March 7/8 update:
Switches are currently in production and are scheduled to complete on March 15/16.

Orders are still open, and quantities have been set. Switch price will remain the same until order arrives.

HYPE!

The 65g milky bottom is like this current SMD LED Gateron on MD?

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Or like the old Gateron?

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It'll be like the "old" Gateron translucent base.

Hey guys. What spring do you recommend for me here? I have found that Pok3r MX Clears are too soft for me and KUL ES-87 were about ideal. The KUL's are thicker looking, more robust springs. What 24k spring do you suggest for mine? 100g?

If both Poker and KUL used MX Clears, then they should've both felt the same. 100g springs are similar to MX Clears in weight (they bottom out at 100cN/~100g), so if you wanted something a bit heavier, 120g would be the go to spring.

Hey Zeal I ordered the 78g switches.
They support leds right?
If so can I order the orange ones from you? (will they fit?)
And what else should I order for building my first KB

Yes, my switches support all the common LED variants. 3mm, 2x3x4mm, 1.8mm, 4 pin RGB.

I offer 1.8mm orange LEDs through my shop. PM me your order # if you'd like to add some to your order.

[balthaz4r]