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So you would say that the snappiness is what defines BS?

If you don't have one, get one.  There is no comparison.  You can compare a ton of keyboards to a Model M.  You won't duplicate it.

Will do. So to get BS I need to get a Model M?

Get a Model M or a Model F.  (Although the Model F is getting harder to obtain in good condition)

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So you would say that the snappiness is what defines BS?

If you don't have one, get one.  There is no comparison.  You can compare a ton of keyboards to a Model M.  You won't duplicate it.

Will do. So to get BS I need to get a Model M?

Get a Model M or a Model F.  (Although the Model F is getting harder to obtain in good condition)


Get both :p
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So you would say that the snappiness is what defines BS?

If you don't have one, get one.  There is no comparison.  You can compare a ton of keyboards to a Model M.  You won't duplicate it.

Will do. So to get BS I need to get a Model M?

Model M is the easiest and most affordable way, most importantly it comes with a very standard layout (either ANSI or ISO).

The Model F's are actually better in numerous ways, but they are more difficult to find, pricier, and usually come in a stranger layout that some people can't get used to easily.
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So you would say that the snappiness is what defines BS?

If you don't have one, get one.  There is no comparison.  You can compare a ton of keyboards to a Model M.  You won't duplicate it.

Will do. So to get BS I need to get a Model M?

Model M is the easiest and most affordable way, most importantly it comes with a very standard layout (either ANSI or ISO).

The Model F's are actually better in numerous ways, but they are more difficult to find, pricier, and usually come in a stranger layout that some people can't get used to easily.
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What prices can I expect? Are there any tips or what I should look out for when trying to find a Model M or F?
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Re: Love my model M, and need a quiet switch for the office. Any suggestions?
« Reply #55 on: Thu, 22 September 2016, 08:29:19 »
If you REALLY wanted to have a quite Model M in the office, (if you could find one) get a Soft Touch Model M, which is BS with greased springs. Rare and expensive, but if you really wanted..

Otherwise Dampened Alps are quite nice as others have suggested.
But how much quieter are these?  A buckling spring makes a lot of noise just by design.

Apparently they don't click from what I heard  :eek: Never seen a typing video however.

There is a little bit of a click. Definitely a different experience than a typical model m but still way better than anything else I've found for the office!

I uploaded a sample typing and sound video from my own Soft Touch for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY4syft-EnY

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Re: Love my model M, and need a quiet switch for the office. Any suggestions?
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 22 September 2016, 13:20:53 »
There's always IBM's own solution to the volume level of buckling spring: the greased buckling spring.

Then there's the non-solution solution: get a Model M/F for everybody in your office, and nobody can complain about the noise anymore.
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Re: Love my model M, and need a quiet switch for the office. Any suggestions?
« Reply #57 on: Thu, 22 September 2016, 14:21:23 »
There's always IBM's own solution to the volume level of buckling spring: the greased buckling spring.

Then there's the non-solution solution: get a Model M/F for everybody in your office, and nobody can complain about the noise anymore.
IIRC dental-floss mod gives the same effect but is more easily reversible and you don't risk the grease dripping down.

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Re: Love my model M, and need a quiet switch for the office. Any suggestions?
« Reply #58 on: Thu, 22 September 2016, 15:20:52 »
There's always IBM's own solution to the volume level of buckling spring: the greased buckling spring.

Then there's the non-solution solution: get a Model M/F for everybody in your office, and nobody can complain about the noise anymore.
IIRC dental-floss mod gives the same effect but is more easily reversible and you don't risk the grease dripping down.

There are various versions of floss modding to choose from too. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=9761.0
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Re: Love my model M, and need a quiet switch for the office. Any suggestions?
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 23 September 2016, 03:53:28 »
There's always IBM's own solution to the volume level of buckling spring: the greased buckling spring.

Then there's the non-solution solution: get a Model M/F for everybody in your office, and nobody can complain about the noise anymore.
IIRC dental-floss mod gives the same effect but is more easily reversible and you don't risk the grease dripping down.

I did the floss mod on an M2, but there's no way I call the end result 'quiet'. What it does is soften the noise a little, and almost completely eliminate the 'ping'. I found this an acceptable compromise.

Having said that, the longer you cut each piece of floss, the quieter it gets, though this compromises the key feel.

As a long time buckling spring user I'd have to agree with the others - there's nothing really comparable in terms of a quieter switch.